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[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> Emacs cannot possibly know that when you send to "arthur", that that
> email will eventually end up going to "arthur@HIDDEN".
Sure it can. It could get the domain from mail-host-address. We
could also create another variable specifically to control this.
The current behavior, as you described it, is not much better
security. It is unpredictable in practice for the user. However,
I am not sure how much security issue there is in sending A a message
encrypted for B. Nobody can decrypt that message.
I have seen reason to think that the current behavior doesn't match
what you described. I entered "To: rms" and encrypted the message.
It recognized that was me, rms@HIDDEN, and encrypted with my key.
It did this even though my key does not list 'rms' with no host name as
an address (as far as I can tell).
gpg --edit-key rms@HIDDEN gave me this:
pub 4096R/2C6464AF2A8E4C02 created: 2013-07-20 expires: never usage: SC
...
sub ...
[ultimate] (1). Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN>
If the key had another address, wouldn't it be listed there?
In addition, after I run the encryption command,
plain 'rms' has been edited into 'rms@HIDDEN'. How does it know
to make that change?
--
Dr Richard Stallman
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#13551; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 13551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2019 19:47:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 28 15:47:21 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51300 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iEIgb-0006Dj-4K for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 15:47:21 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:35550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iEIgX-0006DR-7M for 13551 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 15:47:17 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iEIgT-0006JD-Es; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 21:47:16 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13551: acknowledged by developer (control message for bug #13551) References: <87k19z0xut.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1Tyqsx-0005dB-R9@HIDDEN> <handler.13551.C.156925686512740.notifdonectrl.0 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> <E1iDo3e-000599-Os@HIDDEN> <87pnjliuqh.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1iE1av-0002jt-HP@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 21:47:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <E1iE1av-0002jt-HP@HIDDEN> (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:32:21 -0400") Message-ID: <87d0fkursu.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> writes: > > I'm not sure I understand. I think it does do something completely > > predictable -- choose the key ring entry that matches what's in your > > "From" header. > > We seem to be failing to commnuic [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13551 Cc: 13551 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> writes: > > I'm not sure I understand. I think it does do something completely > > predictable -- choose the key ring entry that matches what's in your > > "From" header. > > We seem to be failing to commnuicate. My From header always says > "rms@HIDDEN", but we're talking about the address I am sending to -- > in the To field. Is that what you mean? Yes; sorry. > When I send mail to just 'arthur', that is equivalent by default to > 'arthur@HIDDEN'. I often omit '@gnu.org' knowing this. > > Encryption should do the same thing: treat 'arthur' as short for > 'arthur@HIDDEN'. That way it will always encrypt for the person that > the mail is going to. Emacs cannot possibly know that when you send to "arthur", that that email will eventually end up going to "arthur@HIDDEN". It could guess, but guessing in an security context is a no go. So if you want to send somebody secure messages, you have to tell Emacs what address the mail is going to: You can't just say "arthur". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 13551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2019 16:40:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 23 12:40:55 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36923 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iCROQ-0003IN-Vv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:40:55 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:40206) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iCROP-0003IE-PN for 13551 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:40:54 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iCROL-0000tR-Vs; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:40:52 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13551: 24.3.50; epa-mail-encrypt chooses wrong key References: <E1Tyqsx-0005dB-R9@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:40:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <E1Tyqsx-0005dB-R9@HIDDEN> (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:31 -0500") Message-ID: <87lfuf0xv2.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> writes: > I have a public key for martin@HIDDEN and a key for another martin at > another host. When I encrypt a message to `martin' -- which means, in > my case, `martin@HIDDEN' -- epa-mail-encrypt picks t [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13551 Cc: 13551 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> writes: > I have a public key for martin@HIDDEN and a key for another martin at > another host. When I encrypt a message to `martin' -- which means, in > my case, `martin@HIDDEN' -- epa-mail-encrypt picks the other martin. > > epa needs to know the default mail hostname so as to pick the correct > Martin. It can get that from the value of user-mail-address, and > maybe have other ways to specify it. I don't think any security-related software should be guessing based on incomplete email addresses. As far as I can tell, it requires a complete match, which I guess means you have a key for "martin" (without a domain name) in your key ring. Choosing this is the right thing to do, I think, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2013 21:32:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 25 16:32:57 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49620 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TyqtM-0003Ny-LU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58579) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1TyqtJ-0003Nr-Fw for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1Tyqt4-00008g-L4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:43 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:34915) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1Tyqt4-00008X-HY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41667) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1Tyqt1-0000Eh-BC for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1Tyqsy-00006k-JA for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:35 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51426) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1Tyqsy-00006e-G0 for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:32 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1Tyqsx-0005dB-R9; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:32:31 -0500 Message-Id: <E1Tyqsx-0005dB-R9@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 24.3.50; epa-mail-encrypt chooses wrong key X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@HIDDEN List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) I have a public key for martin@HIDDEN and a key for another martin at another host. When I encrypt a message to `martin' -- which means, in my case, `martin@HIDDEN' -- epa-mail-encrypt picks the other martin. epa needs to know the default mail hostname so as to pick the correct Martin. It can get that from the value of user-mail-address, and maybe have other ways to specify it. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (mips64el-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12) of 2013-01-03 on chiefs-gnewsense Bzr revision: 111408 rgm@HIDDEN System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 (squeeze) Configured using: `configure CFLAGS=-O0 -g --with-gif=no --with-tiff=no --no-create --no-recursion' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Mail Minor modes in effect: gpm-mouse-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent input: C-x b o u t g TAB RET g e ESC x e p a d RET y C-n C-n C-n C-p C-e @ g n u . o r g ESC x e p a SPC m a i l SPC e n c TAB RET y y y C-x C-s C-c C-s y C-x b o u t g TAB RET g C-p e C-x b o u t - 2 9 RET C-_ ESC DEL ESC DEL DEL ESC x e p a SPC m a i l SPC e n TAB RET y y C-x 4 b RET C-x o C-x k RET y e s RET ESC x r e p o r t SPC e m a c s SPC b u g RET Recent messages: Saving file /home/rms/outgoing/out-29... Wrote /home/rms/outgoing/out-29 Send buffer contents as mail message? (y or n) y Sending... Wrote /home/rms/outgoing/out-30 Sending...done Undo! No public key for rms-response-1w@HIDDEN; skip it? (y or n) y No public key for rms-outgoing@HIDDEN; skip it? (y or n) y Encrypting...done Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow emacsbug mailalias epa-mail epa derived epg epg-config rmailmm message sendmail format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader mail-parse rfc2231 dired t-mouse time-date rmailedit rmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils paren cus-start cus-load nadvice advice help-fns tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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