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charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Webmail 6.0 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.0 cv=Z7Bb6gtA c=1 sm=1 a=WgqlhV2pB5zgkiz5y38hRw==:17 a=Q5QLeeme7KwA:10 a=GOCSKXyyYH4A:10 a=T6QNPRnjHn8A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=htD9qdewAAAA:8 a=FyNeW02vCpkA:10 a=XxSbSxcdc-YRYrHrRG8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=lQSODCMphPEA:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.51238E8E.00B0, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:53:57 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Building automake on OS X 10.6 with autoconf-2.69 installed, I get a self-t= est failure: FAIL: t/objc-megademo.sh Same results with automake-1.12.6 and 1.13.1 (and same as one of the ones r= eported in Bug #11618). The build process in t/objc-megademo.log looks norm= al, up until: ./t/objc-megademo.sh: line 344: 95507 Illegal instruction=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ./play > got from am-1.12.6 (am-1.13.1 is same except it's line 366). Running t/objc-meg= ademo.dir/play from the command-line gives: [Hello C, world C] [Hello C , world C ] Illegal instruction That's all using the default 64-bit mode (-arch x86_64). If I force 32-bit = mode=C2=A0 (using "-arch i386" with all compiler calls), it still fails, bu= t the command-line output is different: [Hello C, world C] [Hello C , world C ] objc[44708]: Hello_ObjC: Does not recognize selector forward:: Illegal instruction It passes on 10.7. I don't know much about objc, but can try any ideas to debug or solve that= someone has. dan -- Daniel Macks dmacks@HIDDEN
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