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24.2; How to turn on flymake-mode automatically?

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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.2; How to turn on flymake-mode automatically?
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:26:10 +0000

In flymake-mode.el is the following commented-out line:

      ;;+(add-hook 'find-file-hook 'flymake-find-file-hook)

It has not been touched since 2005, and the commit log then suggests it
was merely moved from another place; I can't find any other reference to
it in the bzr logs.

According to the manual, adding this hook to find-file-hook is the
recommended way to activate flymake-mode automatically, and that is
never done. Nor can I find a way to turn flymake-mode on automatically
with customize; it seems the best I can do is copy the above line,
uncommented, into my Emacs initialization file.

It is far from obvious that the line above should be uncommented, but if
not, maybe it should be removed, and a more user-friendly and standard
way of activating flymake-mode automatically added?


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Message #8 received at 13779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: 13779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 24.2; How to turn on flymake-mode automatically?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:27:03 +0100

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On 22 February 2013 00:26, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> wrote:

> In flymake-mode.el is the following commented-out line:
>
>       ;;+(add-hook 'find-file-hook 'flymake-find-file-hook)
>
> It has not been touched since 2005, and the commit log then suggests it
> was merely moved from another place; I can't find any other reference to
> it in the bzr logs.
>
> According to the manual, adding this hook to find-file-hook is the
> recommended way to activate flymake-mode automatically, and that is
> never done. Nor can I find a way to turn flymake-mode on automatically
> with customize; it seems the best I can do is copy the above line,
> uncommented, into my Emacs initialization file.
>
> It is far from obvious that the line above should be uncommented, but if
> not, maybe it should be removed, and a more user-friendly and standard
> way of activating flymake-mode automatically added?
>

Ping? I've been using this setting in my init file without problems for a
while now…

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Message #11 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13779: 24.2; How to turn on flymake-mode automatically?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:32:48 +0200

Am 20.05.2013 15:27, schrieb Reuben Thomas:
> On 22 February 2013 00:26, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> wrote:
>
>> In flymake-mode.el is the following commented-out line:
>>
>>        ;;+(add-hook 'find-file-hook 'flymake-find-file-hook)
>>
>> It has not been touched since 2005, and the commit log then suggests it
>> was merely moved from another place; I can't find any other reference to
>> it in the bzr logs.
>>
>> According to the manual, adding this hook to find-file-hook is the
>> recommended way to activate flymake-mode automatically, and that is
>> never done. Nor can I find a way to turn flymake-mode on automatically
>> with customize; it seems the best I can do is copy the above line,
>> uncommented, into my Emacs initialization file.
>>
>> It is far from obvious that the line above should be uncommented, but if
>> not, maybe it should be removed, and a more user-friendly and standard
>> way of activating flymake-mode automatically added?
>>
>
> Ping? I've been using this setting in my init file without problems for a
> while now…
>

GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.14) of 2013-03-05

M-x flymake-mode RET

toggles it right from the spot.

Andreas

Message #14 received at 13779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: 13779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 24.2; How to turn on flymake-mode automatically?
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 22:53:49 +0100

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On 20 May 2013 14:27, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> wrote:

>
> Ping? I've been using this setting in my init file without problems for a
> while now…
>

Unfortunately, I never saw Andreas Röhler's reply of later that day. He
wrote:


> GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.14) of 2013-03-05
>
> M-x flymake-mode RET
>
> toggles it right from the spot.


This is true, but I don't see how it addresses my question (and I'm not
quite sure what "toggles it right from the spot" means). I asked about the
line:

       ;;+(add-hook 'find-file-hook 'flymake-find-file-hook)

in the source. Should it be removed? Or uncommented? For me, adding it to
my global Emacs configuration works fine, suggesting it can indeed be
uncommented, so that when flymake-mode is turned on, it is activated
automatically in new buffers. Also, currently there seems to be no way of
customizing flymake-mode to be on from startup, which itself would seem to
require a new customization.

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Message #17 received at 13779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: 13779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13779: 24.2; How to turn on flymake-mode automatically?
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 03:33:02 +0200

Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> writes:

> This is true, but I don't see how it addresses my question (and I'm not quite
> sure what "toggles it right from the spot" means). I asked about the line:
>
>        ;;+(add-hook 'find-file-hook 'flymake-find-file-hook)
>
> in the source. Should it be removed? Or uncommented?

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

This was apparently further reworked in

commit 94a88c1ae98b1bf7ab80ae9cdd4d6e16b36597ef
Author:     João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
AuthorDate: Tue Sep 26 00:45:46 2017 +0100

    New Flymake API variable flymake-diagnostic-functions

and the uncommented line has now been removed (and the hook function is
no longer documented).  So I guess that's been decided now, and I'm
closing this bug report.

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