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24.3; Using XIM with UIM

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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; Using XIM with UIM
Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 18:29:34 +0100

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Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and
the precise symptoms of the bug.  If you can, give a recipe
starting from `emacs -Q':

I have been using Emacs happily for some time with XIM out of the box. I
am using a GTK build of Emacs (as standard in Ubuntu) and had
GTK_IM_MODULE=xim set in my environment.

Recently, I switched to using UIM, as this allows me to get two bits of
functionality I rely on: first, ~/.XCompose combinations (via XIM) and
secondly, Ctrl+Shift+U to enter Unicode code points (this latter doesn’t
matter to Emacs, of course).

This works fine with every other program I can find, whether GTK, Qt or
plain X.

In Emacs I tried using uim.el (as shipped with Ubuntu), but this seems
only to offer one uim input method, ascii-direct-uim, which doesn't seem
to alter anything.

If I run Emacs normally, XIM has stopped working, and pressing Compose
just gives me "Multi_key undefined".

I can make XIM work OK again by running Emacs from a bash script which
goes:

#!/bin/bash

# Work with emacs binary anywhere else on PATH
path_remove ()  {
    export PATH=`echo -n $PATH | awk -v RS=: -v ORS=: '$0 != "'$1'"' | sed 's/:$//'`;
}
path_remove `dirname $0`

XMODIFIERS=@im=local exec -a $0 emacs "$@"

I tried running

emacs --xrm "emacs.useXIM:true"

but this didn't help (and looking at the source, that's no surprise: my
Emacs is built with XIM support, so it's only turn-offable, not
turn-onable).

Is there a simpler way to get this result?

If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
    `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file
/usr/share/emacs/24.3/etc/DEBUG.


In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.4)
 of 2013-04-14 on marid, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11303000
System Description:	Ubuntu 13.04

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Message #8 received at 14351 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: 14351 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14351: 24.3; Using XIM with UIM
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 17:47:10 -0800

Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> writes:

> I have been using Emacs happily for some time with XIM out of the box. I
> am using a GTK build of Emacs (as standard in Ubuntu) and had
> GTK_IM_MODULE=xim set in my environment.
>
> Recently, I switched to using UIM, as this allows me to get two bits of
> functionality I rely on: first, ~/.XCompose combinations (via XIM) and
> secondly, Ctrl+Shift+U to enter Unicode code points (this latter doesn’t
> matter to Emacs, of course).
>
> This works fine with every other program I can find, whether GTK, Qt or
> plain X.
>
> In Emacs I tried using uim.el (as shipped with Ubuntu), but this seems
> only to offer one uim input method, ascii-direct-uim, which doesn't seem
> to alter anything.
>
> If I run Emacs normally, XIM has stopped working, and pressing Compose
> just gives me "Multi_key undefined".
>
> I can make XIM work OK again by running Emacs from a bash script which
> goes:
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> # Work with emacs binary anywhere else on PATH
> path_remove ()  {
>     export PATH=`echo -n $PATH | awk -v RS=: -v ORS=: '$0 != "'$1'"' | sed 's/:$//'`;
> }
> path_remove `dirname $0`
>
> XMODIFIERS=@im=local exec -a $0 emacs "$@"
>
> I tried running
>
> emacs --xrm "emacs.useXIM:true"
>
> but this didn't help (and looking at the source, that's no surprise: my
> Emacs is built with XIM support, so it's only turn-offable, not
> turn-onable).
>
> Is there a simpler way to get this result?

This bug was reported nearly 10 years ago, but unfortunately never got a
reply at the time.

Is this still an issue with a modern version of Emacs?

Message #11 received at 14351 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 14351 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14351: 24.3; Using XIM with UIM
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2022 12:40:25 +0100

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On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 02:47, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> wrote:

>
> This bug was reported nearly 10 years ago, but unfortunately never got a
> reply at the time.
>
> Is this still an issue with a modern version of Emacs?
>

Thanks for checking!

I don't know whether this particular issue still exists; but it's not a
problem for me; these days I use IBus, and both Compose and Unicode input
work fine without any Emacs configuration.

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Message #16 received at 14351-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: 14351-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14351: 24.3; Using XIM with UIM
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2022 05:00:56 -0800

Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> writes:

> On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 02:47, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  This bug was reported nearly 10 years ago, but unfortunately never got a
>  reply at the time.
>
>  Is this still an issue with a modern version of Emacs?
>
> Thanks for checking!
>
> I don't know whether this particular issue still exists; but it's not a problem for me; these
> days I use IBus, and both Compose and Unicode input work fine without any Emacs
> configuration.

OK, thanks for reporting back.  As no one else has said anything in the
last decade, I guess it's unlikely we'll make progress here.  So let's
hope that this has been fixed or otherwise unimportant; I'm closing the
bug report with this message.

If anyone else is seeing any issues, they will have to report a new bug
or reopen this one.

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