Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2013 14:22:36 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 14 10:22:36 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1UcG7c-000432-Sz for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:22:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1UcG7V-00042j-Q0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:22:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1UcG6x-0005r8-Es for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:43148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1UcG6x-0005r3-CS for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56383) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1UcG6r-00077V-Uv for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1UcG6q-0005pd-Qg for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:45 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:40543) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1UcG6q-0005pT-KF for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:44 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r4EELfc0005507 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Tue, 14 May 2013 14:21:42 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4EELfCg002856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Tue, 14 May 2013 14:21:42 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4EELeMH008648 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Tue, 14 May 2013 14:21:41 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:21:40 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> Subject: 24.3.50; Customize: `Revert...' and `Apply' Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 07:21:40 -0700 Message-ID: <CED0DC44E552464DBF0B4433AFCD2A9F@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac5QrlnM0aHjWdkURaeeelpI+uz/eg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) 1. The `Revert...' menu items should be controled by either :enable or :visible. It makes no sense to show a user an active menu item `Undo Edits in Customization Buffer' if there have been no edits. After a user clicks this, undoing any edits, this menu item should disappear or be dimmed. Similarly for other menu items. 2. `Apply' is not helpful as is. The name does not sufficiently indicate what it does (apply what? to what?). The help echo is also not helpful enough: `Apply settings (for current session only)'. What settings? And again, if no settings have been changed (edited) then this button should not even be available. Its presence when it is a no-op just confuses. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2013-05-10 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 112542 rgm@HIDDEN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib'
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