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24.3; Daemon mode and NS App could play nicer together

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From: Ryan <rct <at> thompsonclan.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; Daemon mode and NS App could play nicer together
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:21:06 -0700

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and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that
the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up
to one day, you should receive an acknowledgment at that address.

Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators for other languages.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and
the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe
starting from `emacs -Q':

On OS X, if one starts emacs as a daemon and opens up a GUI client 
window and then closes it, the NS App becomes unresponsive. Doing the 
following on OS X will exhibit the bug:

1. Run "emacs --daemon -Q"
2. Run "emacsclient -c" to get a GUI frame
3. Do "C-x C-c" to kill the GUI frame

After this, the Emacs daemon will still be running, and the dock will 
also indicate that the Emacs app is still running. However, the menus 
become nonfunctional. Clicking on "File", "Edit", "View", etc. does not 
pop up any menu at all. Clicking on "Emacs" pops up a menu, but the only 
functional items are "About Emacs" and "Quit Emacs". All keyboard 
shortcuts, even those listed in the menus for functional menu items, are 
nonfunctional.

In short, once the last GUI frame is killed for an Emacs instance, it is 
not possible to have any further interaction with Emacs from the GUI 
other than quitting Emacs entirely. If one creates a new GUI frame by 
running "emacsclient -c" from a terminal, the GUI once again becomes 
responsive.

In any case, I believe that this situation is clearly suboptimal. I can 
think of two reasonable ways for Emacs to handle the closing of the last 
GUI frame. First, Emacs could shut down the NS App, so that OS X would 
think that Emacs had quit and no longer show it as running. Then, when a 
new GUI frame is created via "emacsclient -c", a new NS App instance 
would be created. Second, Emacs could support the behavior of most OS X 
apps, which continue running after the last window is closed, with menus 
and keyboard shortcuts still functional. Either of these is preferable 
to the current behavior.

If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
`bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file
/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/DEBUG.


In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36)
of 2013-03-12 on bob.porkrind.org
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1187
Configured using:
`configure '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin' '--build=i686-apple-darwin'
'--with-ns' 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin'
'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
-isystem
/Users/david/Xcode-10.7_4.5.2/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.7.sdk/usr/include/
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Major mode: Emacs-Lisp

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<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> C-g
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<backspace> <backspace> t e r m / n s w i n <return>
C-s x - o p e n - c o n n e c t i o n C-s <return>
C-x 1 <wheel-up> <double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement>
<mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1>
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> C-h f <return> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-1> s-h <help-echo> <wheel-up> <double-wheel-up>
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1>
<double-down-mouse-1> <double-mouse-1> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <s-down-mouse-1>
<s-mouse-1> <s-down-mouse-1> <s-mouse-1> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-1> <wheel-down> <double-wheel-down> <wheel-down>
<double-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> <wheel-up>
<double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<wheel-down> <double-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down>
<triple-wheel-down> <wheel-up> <double-wheel-up> <wheel-up>
<wheel-up> <double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <wheel-down> <wheel-down>
<double-wheel-down> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <wheel-down>
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<triple-wheel-up> <wheel-up> <double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<wheel-up> <double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
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<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up>
<triple-wheel-up> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> M-x r e
p o r t - e m a c s <return>

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Mark saved where search started
Error during redisplay: (eval (list (sml-modeline-create))) signaled 
(args-out-of-range 1296 1330)
Type C-x 1 to delete the help window.
Source file `/Users/ryan/.emacs.d/elpa/smex-20130421.2153/smex.el' newer 
than byte-compiled file
Quit [6 times]
Mark saved where search started
Error during redisplay: (eval (list (sml-modeline-create))) signaled 
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Type C-x 1 to delete the help window.
scroll-down: Beginning of buffer [14 times]
browse-url-at-point: No URL found

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Message #16 received at 14619 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Ryan C. Thompson" <rct <at> thompsonclan.org>
To: 14619 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14619: closed (Re: bug#21357: 24.5; Daemon leaves Mac OSX App
 open after closing GUI frame)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 11:22:55 -0400

Hello,

For some reason (perhaps related to bugs being marked duplicates?) I 
didn't see the email about this patch. I will give it a try and report back.

Regards,

Ryan

On 10/9/21 10:58 AM, GNU bug Tracking System wrote:
> Your bug report
>
> #21357: 24.3; Daemon mode and NS App could play nicer together
>
> which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.
>
> The explanation is attached below, along with your original report.
> If you require more details, please reply to 14619 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.
>

Message #19 received at 14619 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Ryan C. Thompson" <rct <at> thompsonclan.org>
To: 14619 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14619: closed (Re: bug#21357: 24.5; Daemon leaves Mac OSX App
 open after closing GUI frame)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 12:02:10 -0400

On 10/9/21 10:58 AM, GNU bug Tracking System wrote:
> Your bug report
>
> #21357: 24.3; Daemon mode and NS App could play nicer together
>
> which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.
>
> The explanation is attached below, along with your original report.
> If you require more details, please reply to 14619 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.

Ok, I have tested this a bit, and I think it's an improvement over the 
previous behavior. However, I notice some weird edge cases that would 
need to be fixed before I could recommend this for general use. Try the 
following:


0. Start with no emacs running

1. Run "emacs --daemon". The emacs daemon should launch normally.

2. Try to launch the Emacs app normally. Nothing happens.


I'm not sure exactly what *should* happen when you do this, but doing 
nothing is clearly wrong. Possibly defensible choices include:

- automatically detecting a running daemon and running "emacsclient -c" 
instead of "emacs"

- ignoring the daemon and launching a separate non-daemon instance of Emacs

- Popping up a dialogue box informing the user that there's already an 
emacs daemon running?

- Somehow making this a user preference?


In addition, "emacsclient -c" does indeed create a new frame and 
activate the NS app, but that frame is created behind all other OS 
windows, unless it is the frame created upon launch by "emacsclient -c 
-a ''", in which case it appears in front of all other OS windows. This 
seems like it should be governed by a preference, but the default should 
probably be to appear in front, or else the user might not realize that 
the frame was actually created.

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