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23.4; dired-jump

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From: Emanuel Berg <emanuel.berg.8573 <at> student.uu.se>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.4; dired-jump
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:58:49 +0200

From gnu.emacs.help

> Or: `M-x dired-jump'.

I tried that in Gnus (from the buffer displaying your message) and
I ended up in ~/.w3m - I get that not all buffers have files
associated with them, but perhaps this should be communicated
somehow instead of that kind of arbitrary (?) behaviour. ...

(After that.)

> ... The doc string of `dired-jump' says what happens if "in a
> file" or "in Dired", but not what happens otherwise.

> Looking at the `dired-jump' code (from a recent 24 Dev
> snapshot), it seems that `default-directory' is used for the
> otherwise case. ...


In GNU Emacs 23.4.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10)
 of 2012-09-09 on murphy, modified by Debian
configured using `configure  '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.4/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.4/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall -DDEBIAN -O2' 'CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2''

Important settings:
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-- 
Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below)
computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573

Message #8 received at 14733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: Emanuel Berg <emanuel.berg.8573 <at> student.uu.se>
Cc: 14733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14733: 23.4; dired-jump
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:13:56 +0400

Emanuel Berg <emanuel.berg.8573 <at> student.uu.se> writes:

> From gnu.emacs.help
>
>> Or: `M-x dired-jump'.
>
> I tried that in Gnus (from the buffer displaying your message) and
> I ended up in ~/.w3m - I get that not all buffers have files
> associated with them, but perhaps this should be communicated
> somehow instead of that kind of arbitrary (?) behaviour. ...

I don't really see how doing anything else would be better. It indeed
jumps to `default-directory', and that can be useful sometimes.

For example, as I'm writing this message, if I press `C-x C-j', Emacs
opens `~/News/drafts/drafts'. Which is relevant, at least.

And if you don't really want to see the directory it opens, just press
`q', the Dired buffer will be buried, and you will see the buffer you
were in before.

Message #11 received at 14733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Emanuel Berg <emanuel.berg.8573 <at> student.uu.se>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Cc: 14733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14733: 23.4; dired-jump
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:23:39 +0200

> I don't really see how doing anything else would be better. It
> indeed jumps to `default-directory', and that can be useful
> sometimes.

Yes, only, as was my case (in Gnus, `default-directory' wasn't set
so some other part of my Emacs activity - w3m, as it was - had
gotten there first, with no change) so the jump didn't make any
sense.

So, either a message could be fired off - file not associated with
file, using bam-bam-bam instead - *or* you could elaborate like
one line in the doc string on this.

-- 
Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below)
computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573

Message #16 received at 14733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Emanuel Berg <emanuel.berg.8573 <at> student.uu.se>
Cc: 14733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: bug#14733: 23.4; dired-jump
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 16:20:39 +0200

Emanuel Berg <emanuel.berg.8573 <at> student.uu.se> writes:

> So, either a message could be fired off - file not associated with
> file, using bam-bam-bam instead - *or* you could elaborate like
> one line in the doc string on this.

I've now done the latter in Emacs 28.

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