Received: (at 14942) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 16:11:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 12:11:07 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55563 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1awB0R-0002fc-Qg for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:11:07 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:56864) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <whitebox@HIDDEN>) id 1awB0N-0002ev-NZ for 14942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:11:03 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3qxJb65vR1z3hjBH; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:10:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3qxJb64gGHzvjMj; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:10:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eQefdmZulu-g; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:10:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: HIhBXvnczv3SR/cxaxjlUwhrUfrDfINEULhrPthGZknStPHbB34NUNXiL60+kFuf Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-14-55.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.14.55]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:10:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EF5EB2C1AF0; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:10:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#14942: 24.3.50; Improve key descriptions for facemenu menu items References: <20a01510-8eb7-4920-a7b9-0dcecdd73845@default> <87zisc8sfa.fsf@HIDDEN> <83eg9ownah.fsf@HIDDEN> <87d1p88rfh.fsf@HIDDEN> <83d1p8wm9t.fsf@HIDDEN> <877ffg7bf5.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Yow: I want to read my new poem about pork brains and outer space... Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:10:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877ffg7bf5.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:10:54 +0200") Message-ID: <87wpng5rar.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14942 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 14942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > So the key description here is less than useful, and there's not > something I'm missing? I mean, about this particular thing. :-) Have you tried reading the manual? (elisp) Menu Example Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@HIDDEN GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."
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Subject: Re: bug#14942: 24.3.50;
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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:18:17 +0200
> Cc: 14942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > `C-h f facemenu-set-invisible' says that the command is bound to
> > <C-down-mouse-2> <sp> v, <menu-bar> <edit> <props> <sp> v.
>
> [...]
>
> > This would be a lot more helpful for users if we simply used reasonable
> > names for the menu-item pseudo-function keys. Instead of <sp> use
> > <special-properties> and things suddenly become much clearer.
>
> What is <sp> meant to express, anyway? I thought perhaps it was a
> keyboard shortcut, but nothing I press after C-down-mouse-2 seem to do
> anything...
>
> And neither does the v.
Use the source, Lars:
(defvar facemenu-special-menu
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap "Special")))
(define-key map [?s] (cons (purecopy "Remove Special")
'facemenu-remove-special))
(define-key map [?t] (cons (purecopy "Intangible")
'facemenu-set-intangible))
(define-key map [?v] (cons (purecopy "Invisible")
'facemenu-set-invisible))
(define-key map [?r] (cons (purecopy "Read-Only")
'facemenu-set-read-only))
map)
"Menu keymap for non-face text-properties.")
(defalias 'facemenu-special-menu facemenu-special-menu)
[...]
(let ((map facemenu-menu))
(define-key map [in] (cons (purecopy "Indentation")
'facemenu-indentation-menu))
(define-key map [ju] (cons (purecopy "Justification")
'facemenu-justification-menu))
(define-key map [s2] (list (purecopy "--")))
(define-key map [sp] (cons (purecopy "Special Properties") <<<<<<<<<
^^^^ 'facemenu-special-menu))
(define-key map [bg] (cons (purecopy "Background Color")
'facemenu-background-menu))
(define-key map [fg] (cons (purecopy "Foreground Color")
'facemenu-foreground-menu))
(define-key map [fc] (cons (purecopy "Face")
'facemenu-face-menu)))
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Full text available.Received: (at 14942) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 13:18:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 09:18:22 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54103 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aw8JJ-0001pV-WF for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:18:22 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54738) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1aw8JI-0001pN-4P for 14942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:18:20 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1aw8JF-00084t-FL; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:18:19 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#14942: 24.3.50; Improve key descriptions for facemenu menu items References: <20a01510-8eb7-4920-a7b9-0dcecdd73845@default> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:18:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20a01510-8eb7-4920-a7b9-0dcecdd73845@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:30:07 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87zisc8sfa.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14942 Cc: 14942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > `C-h f facemenu-set-invisible' says that the command is bound to > <C-down-mouse-2> <sp> v, <menu-bar> <edit> <props> <sp> v. [...] > This would be a lot more helpful for users if we simply used reasonable > names for the menu-item pseudo-function keys. Instead of <sp> use > <special-properties> and things suddenly become much clearer. What is <sp> meant to express, anyway? I thought perhaps it was a keyboard shortcut, but nothing I press after C-down-mouse-2 seem to do anything... And neither does the v. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#14942; Package emacs.
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) `C-h f facemenu-set-invisible' says that the command is bound to <C-down-mouse-2> <sp> v, <menu-bar> <edit> <props> <sp> v. Good luck trying to understand that, Ms User. And yet it is so close. This would be a lot more helpful for users if we simply used reasonable names for the menu-item pseudo-function keys. Instead of <sp> use <special-properties> and things suddenly become much clearer. Likewise, use <text-properties> instead of <props>. Likewise, use <invisible> instead of just [?v]. There is no reason to take shortcuts coding this kind of thing. Keep in mind that the names used for menu-item keys are part of the user interface. Please make an effort to provide names that help users instead of just looking for a quick abbreviation. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-07-14 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 113423 lekktu@HIDDEN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CFLAGS=3D'-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D'-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' LDFLAGS=3D'-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib''
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