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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>
Subject: RE: bug#15427: 24.3.50; `customize-face' in Customize, show
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FWIW, I agree about the widget and custom code.
And it's doc is not super helpful.
(defun widget-color-sample-face-get (widget)
(let* ((value (condition-case nil
=09=09 (widget-value widget)
=09=09 (error (widget-get widget :value)))))
(if (color-defined-p value)
=09(list (cons 'background-color value))
'default)))
But I think, as said in the enhancement
request, that it's good to show the
effect of the color BOTH as a foreground
and as a background.
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Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes:
> Using background colors is more helpful for users.
I tried having a peek at the code to see whether this would be an easy
thing to fix, and it applies the colour here:
(defun widget-color-sample-face-get (widget)
(let* ((value (condition-case nil
(widget-value widget)
(error (widget-get widget :value)))))
(if (color-defined-p value)
(list (cons 'foreground-color value))
'default)))
But, as usual when dealing with widgets, I had to give up, because I can
never follow the calling logic (everything seems to happen somewhere
else), and I don't know how to inspect the widgets, either.
If somebody else wants to take a whack at it, be my guest. It's
probably trivial if you know how widgets work.
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Show it as the >> background, instead. >> >> This is independent of the overall `sample' for the face as a whole. >> It's just more helpful to show the background color choice as a >> background. > > There's a whole bunch of things that can have a colour when customising > a face -- like stipple background/foreground, overline, etc. I don't > know whether it makes sense to special-case just the (main) background > colour... but perhaps that does make sense, because it's a pretty > common thing to customise. And showing the colour as a background > colour would give a more correct impressions. Using background colors is more helpful for users. Please see also bug#33799 (set-foreground-color completion shows background colors).
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Full text available.Received: (at 15427) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2019 14:28:34 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 15 10:28:33 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hyGjx-0001gs-ME for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:28:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42860) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1hyGjv-0001ge-9f for 15427 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:28:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1hyGjp-0005Sk-5H; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:28:25 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1686 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1hyGjm-0005Tv-Sv; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:28:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 17:28:16 +0300 Message-Id: <83lfvuqz9b.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <87k1bf3xsi.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:36:13 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#15427: 24.3.50; `customize-face' in Customize, show `Background' attribute using background References: <c6080c85-fb9c-484f-854c-ed8db6555aad@default> <87k1bf3xsi.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15427 Cc: 15427 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:36:13 -0700 > Cc: 15427 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Anybody have an opinion here? My opinion is that there's nothing wrong with showing the color as foreground.
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Full text available.Received: (at 15427) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2019 04:44:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 15 00:44:55 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50351 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hy7d8-000197-VJ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 00:44:55 -0400 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:49422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1hy7d7-00018v-Fr for 15427 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 00:44:53 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x7F4iKuh037976; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:44:47 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=n0tmBbUUoSygXgbBIdY6lOcNvC5KMmG9/9xGmh7XpEQ=; b=kyErQcQjJ1Pp1/1Iza7ZIUbCoJXrXkp6cSU+2MpBUCsieD8km4tZVHJp26MKFfrfIaig ADZLx6GCfDVk8oqajTFMMZIXOopHV5aRuq6Kgz/W89AQjy6E59aHN1N5rSG/5Ihn18E9 mvO+ovH3e54kNq25FA7SAGz4Tke+carUgUVfFl89BB9tZ5UWrqqlijAF/WMRzfnBvboU KkFkD1xG6RUS05qFetq/htk+gurcHFMANb3ZgsWAc6Bt/7w7lXK6MCWWlZ54iyVXCmQI RRUyqM/pw2Zv+dDcRWriK3tGJJM9cqoz2ILNkyp1OTCJ4rqHt2ZiUG1X59UVn4HuT+xz Iw== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2u9nvpgsyb-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:44:47 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x7F4hCBh022898; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:44:46 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2ucgf0kn80-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:44:46 +0000 Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x7F4ijlt007849; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:44:45 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <d87f3b7b-c067-498e-bda8-a05565780f69@default> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:44:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#15427: 24.3.50; `customize-face' in Customize, show `Background' attribute using background References: <c6080c85-fb9c-484f-854c-ed8db6555aad@default> <87k1bf3xsi.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87k1bf3xsi.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9349 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=933 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908150049 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9349 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=983 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908150049 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15427 Cc: 15427 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > emacs -Q > > M-x customize-face lazy-highlight > > > > Attribute `Background' has its own `sample', which shows the color. > > But it shows the color as a foreground (text). Show it as the > > background, instead. > > > > This is independent of the overall `sample' for the face as a whole. > > It's just more helpful to show the background color choice as a > > background. >=20 > There's a whole bunch of things that can have a colour when customising > a face -- like stipple background/foreground, overline, etc. I don't > know whether it makes sense to special-case just the (main) background > colour... but perhaps that does make sense, because it's a pretty > common thing to customise. And showing the colour as a background > colour would give a more correct impressions. >=20 > But might be confusing if that one thing behaved differently than the > rest. >=20 > Anybody have an opinion here? It's _not_ about one thing behaving differently. We show an overline, underline, foreground, etc. attribute using the foreground, because they are, well, in the foreground. Attribute background is not. Attribute background should, well, show the color sample as background, not as foreground. (I would think that this is obviously TRT to do.)
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Full text available.Received: (at 15427) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2019 03:36:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 14 23:36:22 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50239 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1hy6Yn-0007tn-SF for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:36:22 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:34002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1hy6Ym-0007tf-6o for 15427 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:36:20 -0400 Received: from 24-104-73-23-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([24.104.73.23] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1hy6Yi-0007LR-1n; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 05:36:18 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#15427: 24.3.50; `customize-face' in Customize, show `Background' attribute using background References: <c6080c85-fb9c-484f-854c-ed8db6555aad@default> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:36:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: <c6080c85-fb9c-484f-854c-ed8db6555aad@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:04:31 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87k1bf3xsi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > emacs -Q > M-x customize-face lazy-highlight > > Attribute `Background' has its own `sample', which shows the color. > But it shows the color as a foreground (text). Show it as the > background, ins [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15427 Cc: 15427 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > emacs -Q > M-x customize-face lazy-highlight > > Attribute `Background' has its own `sample', which shows the color. > But it shows the color as a foreground (text). Show it as the > background, instead. > > This is independent of the overall `sample' for the face as a whole. > It's just more helpful to show the background color choice as a > background. There's a whole bunch of things that can have a colour when customising a face -- like stipple background/foreground, overline, etc. I don't know whether it makes sense to special-case just the (main) background colour... but perhaps that does make sense, because it's a pretty common thing to customise. And showing the colour as a background colour would give a more correct impressions. But might be confusing if that one thing behaved differently than the rest. Anybody have an opinion here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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