GNU bug report logs - #15917
24.3.50; manual: mention keys reserved for users

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Package: emacs; Severity: minor; Reported by: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>; dated Mon, 18 Nov 2013 03:37:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Am 18.11.2013 08:16, schrieb Josh:
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> And please cross reference the Elisp manual, node `Key Binding Conventions',
>> so users can get more complete information.
>
> Those conventions seem to have fallen by the wayside, at least where users'
> keys are concerned: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12976
>
>
>
>

Consider it a bug. IMO it's important to have some keys known to be free - it's very important for Emacs beginners.
OTOH Elisp manual seems the right place, as it's a coding question.




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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> wrote:
> And please cross reference the Elisp manual, node `Key Binding Conventions',
> so users can get more complete information.

Those conventions seem to have fallen by the wayside, at least where users'
keys are concerned: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12976




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And please cross reference the Elisp manual, node `Key Binding Conventions'=
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so users can get more complete information.




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Hello,

(info "(emacs) Keymaps") doesn't tell anything about keys reserved for
users (C-c LETTER).  BTW, this was the case some time ago, see

  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs/html_node/emacs_492.html

Users reading the users manual should have a chance to find this
essential information, because getting used to bindings you cannot keep
because of collisions you find later is very annoying.  I propose to add
a sentence describing that C-c LETTER key sequences are reserved for
users.  It would also be suitable for "(emacs) Init Rebinding", but
somewhere it should be said.


Thanks,

Michael.



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