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24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alex Willisson <atw <at> mit.edu>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:27:35 -0500

When I try to open a .png file which does not exist, I get the error
message "Cannot display image: (Cannot determine image type)" in the
minibuffer, instead of something more related to "File does not exist"

Steps for reproduction:

$ emacs -Q

C-x C-f not_an_actual_file.png <return>

This bug looks like it occurs for nearly all image extensions, I have
reproduced it with these extensions: .png, .gif, .jpeg, .jpg, .ppm,
.pnm, .tiff, .xpm, .xcf, .psd, .bmp, .tga, .ico, .rgb, and .svg.

In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.9.10)
 of 2013-08-14 on buildvm-17.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11402000
System Description:    Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug)

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Recent input:
M-x r e p o r t - e m a c s - b u g <return>

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Message #8 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Alex Willisson <atw <at> mit.edu>
Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3;
 Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:18:44 +0200

> From: Alex Willisson <atw <at> mit.edu>
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:27:35 -0500
> 
> When I try to open a .png file which does not exist, I get the error
> message "Cannot display image: (Cannot determine image type)" in the
> minibuffer, instead of something more related to "File does not exist"
> 
> Steps for reproduction:
> 
> $ emacs -Q
> 
> C-x C-f not_an_actual_file.png <return>

How should Emacs know whether you intend to visit an existing file or
create a new one?

Message #11 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: [SPAM] bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message
 when opened
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:57:04 +0100

W dniu 2013-12-06 08:18, Eli Zaretskii pisze:
> How should Emacs know whether you intend to visit an existing file or
> create a new one?

It seems so easy to determine what is the intention of visiting a png 
file. But if Emacs admin does not know that, then I assume I make some 
silly newbie mistake and it is in fact impossible.

Jarek

Message #14 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16062: [SPAM] bug#16062: 24.3;
 Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:38:55 +0200

> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:57:04 +0100
> From: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
> 
> W dniu 2013-12-06 08:18, Eli Zaretskii pisze:
> > How should Emacs know whether you intend to visit an existing file or
> > create a new one?
> 
> It seems so easy to determine what is the intention of visiting a png 
> file.

Is it?  What if I come up with an Emacs mode that lets users _create_
PNG files?

> But if Emacs admin does not know that, then I assume I make some 
> silly newbie mistake and it is in fact impossible.

I didn't ask the (slightly provocative) question to indicate that I
consider your request silly.  I asked it to put the issue in
perspective.  I agree it would be good to make the error message more
clear in this case, I just suggest that we think about the possible
alternatives to "File does not exist", because we don't show such a
message when users visit non-existent files.

IOW, I submit that the problem is with image-mode throwing an error in
this case, instead of showing "(New file)" in the echo area, just like
we do with any non-existing file.  We could also turn image-mode off
in such a case, although the correctness of that is less clear to me.

Message #17 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
To: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when
 opened
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:05:17 +0100

W dniu 12/06/2013 09:38 AM, Eli Zaretskii pisze:
> Is it?  What if I come up with an Emacs mode that lets users _create_
> PNG files?

What I actually had in mind was that Emacs already does this guessing 
(what was the intention of opening a png file) and we don't want to 
change this process. But after we decided we want to display the 
graphics and before passing the filename to the graphic library, we 
should check if file exists.

If file does not exist - give the exact message or fallback to 
non-graphical mode. Both solutions would make it obvious, that the file 
does not exists. I guess that's the intention of Alex, who reported this.

Thanks
Jarek

Message #20 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3;
 Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 09:27:32 +0200

> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:05:17 +0100
> From: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
> 
> W dniu 12/06/2013 09:38 AM, Eli Zaretskii pisze:
> > Is it?  What if I come up with an Emacs mode that lets users _create_
> > PNG files?
> 
> What I actually had in mind was that Emacs already does this guessing 
> (what was the intention of opening a png file) and we don't want to 
> change this process. But after we decided we want to display the 
> graphics and before passing the filename to the graphic library, we 
> should check if file exists.

That's not how "C-x C-f" works in this case.  It visits the file as
usual, and then turns on image-mode, which instructs the image library
to display the image using the data we already have in the buffer.  So
the file name is never passed to the image library.

IOW, Emacs does the same in this case as when you type

  C-x C-f non-existent-file.c RET

In the latter case, you get an empty buffer that is in CC mode, and a
message "(New file)" in the echo area.

Therefore, I submit that the problem is with image-mode, which barfs
on empty buffers, obviously assuming such situations won't happen.

> If file does not exist - give the exact message or fallback to 
> non-graphical mode. Both solutions would make it obvious, that the file 
> does not exists. I guess that's the intention of Alex, who reported this.

Would it be wrong to have an empty buffer put in image-mode and "(New
file)" displayed in the echo area?  That is how Emacs behaves in any
other case when the user visits a file that does not exist.

Message #23 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3;
 Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:58:03 +0200

> IOW, Emacs does the same in this case as when you type
>
>   C-x C-f non-existent-file.c RET
>
> In the latter case, you get an empty buffer that is in CC mode, and a
> message "(New file)" in the echo area.

In this case the echo area displays "Loading cc-langs...done",
but not "(New file)".

If we'll remove the message "Cannot display image: (Cannot
determine image type)" from image-mode.el, then it still will
display "Type C-c C-c to view the image as an image.",
but not "(New file)" (but it's still visible in the *Messages* buffer).

So the problem of overridden messages is general.  A possible solution
is to collect a batch of the latest messages and display them in the
multi-line echo area.

Message #26 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl
Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3;
 Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 08:51:46 +0200

> From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
> Cc: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>,  16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:58:03 +0200
> 
> > IOW, Emacs does the same in this case as when you type
> >
> >   C-x C-f non-existent-file.c RET
> >
> > In the latter case, you get an empty buffer that is in CC mode, and a
> > message "(New file)" in the echo area.
> 
> In this case the echo area displays "Loading cc-langs...done",
> but not "(New file)".
> 
> If we'll remove the message "Cannot display image: (Cannot
> determine image type)" from image-mode.el, then it still will
> display "Type C-c C-c to view the image as an image.",
> but not "(New file)" (but it's still visible in the *Messages* buffer).
> 
> So the problem of overridden messages is general.  A possible solution
> is to collect a batch of the latest messages and display them in the
> multi-line echo area.

Or maybe image-mode could display another "(New file)" when it
discovers that the buffer is empty.

Message #29 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Alex Willisson <atw <at> mit.edu>
Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message
 when opened
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:10:45 +0200

Alex Willisson <atw <at> mit.edu> writes:

> When I try to open a .png file which does not exist, I get the error
> message "Cannot display image: (Cannot determine image type)" in the
> minibuffer, instead of something more related to "File does not exist"
>
> Steps for reproduction:
>
> $ emacs -Q
>
> C-x C-f not_an_actual_file.png <return>

I've now fixed this for Emacs 28 -- it now says there's no image data
present instead of the confusing error message about image types.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #36 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, atw <at> mit.edu
Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3;
 Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 21:29:59 +0300

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:10:45 +0200
> Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > $ emacs -Q
> >
> > C-x C-f not_an_actual_file.png <return>
> 
> I've now fixed this for Emacs 28 -- it now says there's no image data
> present

It does?  On my system, it just says "New file".  Which is not bad,
but doesn't match your description.

Message #39 received at 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 16062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, atw <at> mit.edu
Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message
 when opened
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:39:19 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> I've now fixed this for Emacs 28 -- it now says there's no image data
>> present
>
> It does?  On my system, it just says "New file".  Which is not bad,
> but doesn't match your description.

It does if the file exists (but is empty).

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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