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Jerky motion and up/down asymmetry scrolling images

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Package: emacs; Reported by: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson); dated Sat, 22 Feb 2014 01:53:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
Changed bug title to 'Jerky motion and up/down asymmetry scrolling images' from '24.3.50; Jerky motion and up/down asymmetry scrolling images in Eww' Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

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> From: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson)
> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>,  16840 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 15:01:21 -0400
> 
> The `C-n's in Step 7 scroll the image as one would expect. At the
> second last of those `C-n's, the heading "Secure Boot vs Restricted
> Boot" scrolls off the top of the window. At the next `C-n' the blank
> line below the image is at the top of the window.
> 
> At the next `C-n' (Step 8) which I understand is supposed to move
> point to the line below the image [Although it would be awesome if it
> could continue scrolling the image one "line" at a time.], the
> scrolling "glitches" and point moves _up_ again to the blank line
> above the image.

That's an entirely different problem: Emacs doesn't find a good place
to start the window, so it recenters the window.  I will look into it
when I have time.




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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 16840 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  nljlistbox2@HIDDEN
> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:28:54 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > How about if you tell me the next time you see one of those?
> 
> I just went to http://salon.com and held <down> down.  Sometimes it takes
> me to the next line, and sometimes it scrolls semi-displayed images...

Thanks.  I see nothing wrong in the behavior there, it does what it
was supposed to do, given the arrangement of the images and the window
size.




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To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#16840: 24.3.50;
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Hi Eli,

At 13:04 -0400 on Friday 2015-12-25, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: 16840 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  nljlistbox2@HIDDEN
>> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 17:54:26 +0100
>> 
>> > Can you show a URL and describe the gestures to reproduce the
>> > problem?
>> 
>> I don't have any handy, and they are probably dependent on the
>> screen size, the font size and the window sizes. But these glitches
>> usually show up after a while if you use eww on web sites that have
>> many images, like newspaper web sites.
>
> How about if you tell me the next time you see one of those?

Testing this afternoon, here's a recipe that shows the problem for me
(on Emacs 24):

1. emacs -Q [1]

2. M-x eww

3. Enter http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/ at the prompt [2]

4. M-x split-window-below (this is to make the images taller than the
window)

5. Scroll down the page with C-n, down to the heading "Secure Boot vs
Restricted Boot" (about 51 lines)

6. C-n to the blank line above the image

7. C-n eight times (this scrolls the image at one would expect, one
"line" at a time)

8. C-n again
   
[1] Emacs 24.5. Default font is coming up as
-xos4-Terminus-normal-normal-normal-*-12-*-*-*-c-60-iso10646-1.

[2] Accessed 2015-12-25 18:13 UTC.

The `C-n's in Step 7 scroll the image as one would expect. At the
second last of those `C-n's, the heading "Secure Boot vs Restricted
Boot" scrolls off the top of the window. At the next `C-n' the blank
line below the image is at the top of the window.

At the next `C-n' (Step 8) which I understand is supposed to move
point to the line below the image [Although it would be awesome if it
could continue scrolling the image one "line" at a time.], the
scrolling "glitches" and point moves _up_ again to the blank line
above the image.

I will install Emacs 25 now and report back whether I still see the
same behaviour on this system.

Regards,
Neil.





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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> How about if you tell me the next time you see one of those?

I just went to http://salon.com and held <down> down.  Sometimes it takes
me to the next line, and sometimes it scrolls semi-displayed images...

-- 
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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 16840 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  nljlistbox2@HIDDEN
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> 
> > Can you show a URL and describe the gestures to reproduce the problem?
> 
> I don't have any handy, and they are probably dependent on the screen
> size, the font size and the window sizes.  But these glitches usually
> show up after a while if you use eww on web sites that have many images,
> like newspaper web sites.

How about if you tell me the next time you see one of those?




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson),  16840 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 08:43:37 +0100
>> 
>> > I think I found the way of reproducing this, and I will look into
>> > that.
>> 
>> Did you get any further with this, by any chance?
>
> I have vague recollection that I did, but I have no proof.  Sorry.
>
> Can you show a URL and describe the gestures to reproduce the problem?

I don't have any handy, and they are probably dependent on the screen
size, the font size and the window sizes.  But these glitches usually
show up after a while if you use eww on web sites that have many images,
like newspaper web sites.

-- 
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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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> > I think I found the way of reproducing this, and I will look into
> > that.
> 
> Did you get any further with this, by any chance?

I have vague recollection that I did, but I have no proof.  Sorry.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> >> Furthermore, while scrolling one key press at a time like this, there
>> >> are occasional "glitches" where the image jumps back to the position it
>> >> was in immediately before scrolling started.
>> >
>> > I don't see it with images I tried.  It would be best if you could
>> > provide a reproducible recipe, with a specific image, starting from
>> > "emacs -Q", that shows these glitches.
>> 
>> If it is reproducible on demand, I don't see the pattern. That's what I
>> meant by the "occasional" in my description.
>
> I think I found the way of reproducing this, and I will look into
> that.

Did you get any further with this, by any chance?  Cursor movement and
scrolling is still somewhat unpredictable.  With visual line mode, my
expectation is that hitting the down key will take me to the next
visible line, and that doesn't always happen, especially with large-ish
images.

But it's much better now than when this bug report was created a couple
years ago...

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> From: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson)
> Cc:  bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:15:53 -0400
> 
> >> At some point (and it's approximately when two lines are visible below
> >> the image) the cursor jumps to the line below the image, and, most
> >> unfortunately, the window scrolls so that that line is the top line in
> >> the window. This results in a huge jerk, and it also means that the
> >> image has disappeared before you can read a caption directly below it.
> >
> > Wasn't the caption visible before the jump?
> 
> The first line of it, but if there were a two-line gap instead of a
> one-line gap between the image and its caption, it wouldn't be visible.

But a two-line gap would mean one more empty line, so I think the
caption would still be visible.

> >> Furthermore, while scrolling one key press at a time like this, there
> >> are occasional "glitches" where the image jumps back to the position it
> >> was in immediately before scrolling started.
> >
> > I don't see it with images I tried.  It would be best if you could
> > provide a reproducible recipe, with a specific image, starting from
> > "emacs -Q", that shows these glitches.
> 
> If it is reproducible on demand, I don't see the pattern. That's what I
> meant by the "occasional" in my description.

I think I found the way of reproducing this, and I will look into
that.

> After the "glitch" occurs at the beginning of scrolling an image, when
> the cursor emerges in the text below the image it is at the ends of the
> lines instead of in the first column. This seems to happen consistently
> after the "glitch" occurs.

Yes, I see this also.

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At 04:21 -0400 on Saturday 2014-02-22, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson)
>> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:51:47 -0400
>> 
>> With an image taller than the window, scrolling behaviour is jerky and
>> asymmetrical in Eww.
>
> Please provide a URL to such an image, since the exact behavior
> depends on the relative sizes of the image and the default font.

I saw the same general behaviour with all of the few pages I
visited. The one I did my detailed examination on was
http://www.gnu.org/distros/screenshot.html.

> Also, does the behavior you describe happen in "emacs -Q", or do you
> need some non-default customizations to see what you describe?

Yes, with "emacs -Q".

For example this recipe (where the maximize before loading the page is
just to get the image big enough to be taller than the frame (as Eww
(sensibly, I think) resizes images to fit in the frame when it loads a
page). On my machine this makes the image slightly less than twice the
height of the display.

    emacs -Q
    M-x toggle-frame-maximized RET
    M-x eww RET http://www.gnu.org/distros/screenshot.html RET
    M-x toggle-frame-maximized RET

>> Scrolling Downwards with <down>
>> ===============================
>> When scrolling down the page (pressing <down> <down> <down> ...), when
>> the cursor reaches the line above the image, it stops going to the next
>> line. Instead, the image is smoothly scrolled up in to view. I am told
>> that this is the designed behaviour.
>
> Yes, that's the design.
>
>> When the line with the cursor disappears off the top of the window, the
>> cursor jumps to the image. There is a slight jerk when this happens,
>> which might be worth eliminating.
>
> The jerk should bring the top of the image to the top of the window.
> If that is what happens, then that's the intended behavior.

Yes. That's what happens.

If it's the current intended behaviour, then that is what it is. I
raised this bug report to point out that the behaviour I observe is
sub-optimal from a user-experience point of view, Emacs could be better
in this regard. Consider it then, perhaps, as a wishlist item for Emacs
25 or 26!

I myself am a bit ambivalent about this suddenly having images in
Emacs. I'm not sure that I like them, and I'm certain that I don't need
them. However to be able to view web pages within Emacs seems useful,
and in checking out this functionality in Emacs 24.3.50 I noticed the
perceived deficiencies reported, so I reported them, because I believe
that it's hard to improve something when one isn't aware of what might
be wrong with it.

>> At some point (and it's approximately when two lines are visible below
>> the image) the cursor jumps to the line below the image, and, most
>> unfortunately, the window scrolls so that that line is the top line in
>> the window. This results in a huge jerk, and it also means that the
>> image has disappeared before you can read a caption directly below it.
>
> Wasn't the caption visible before the jump?

The first line of it, but if there were a two-line gap instead of a
one-line gap between the image and its caption, it wouldn't be visible.

But if the intended behaviour is that the window should scroll to bring
the line below the image to the top of the window when a line or two
below the image becomes visible, then it is impossible in general with
an imgage taller than the frame to see text below the image that
pertains to it while the image is still in view (unless that text
happens to be only one or two lines long).

> In any case, it's impossible to reason about the described behavior
> without knowing the image size and size of the font used to display
> text around it.

    M-x describe-font RET

    name (opened by): -xos4-Terminus-normal-normal-normal-*-12-*-*-*-c-60-iso10646-1
           full name: Terminus:pixelsize=12:foundry=xos4:weight=normal:slant=normal:width=normal:spacing=110:scalable=false
                size: 12
              height: 12
     baseline-offset:  0
    relative-compose:  0

>> If the designed behaviour mentioned three paragraphs above this one is
>> correct, then it would seem better, when the image has scrolled up
>> sufficiently for the line below it to be visible, if the cursor then
>> jumped to that line, but stayed on it while additional <down> presses
>> continued to scroll the image smoothly upwards until the bottom of the
>> image had disappeared off the top of the window, and then the <down>
>> presses resumed doing next-line in the normal way.
>
> This is next to impossible with the current design of scrolling in
> Emacs.

Fair enough. From ignorance one may stipulate impossible
requirements. Yet it's not impossible that in such naive requirements
lies a germ of a better future Emacs.

> The goal of pixel-level scrolling in Emacs 24 is to allow the
> user a chance to see every part of the image at least once.

I believe human perception requires more than that.

I don't know about pixel-level scrolling. Naively (again) I feel that
even charcter-wise line-by-line scrolling would be far smoother that the
current observed behaviour if "behind" the image there were inserted as
many empty lines of text as needed to span the height of the image.

> If that goal is reached, the rest are deeper limitations of the
> current design, and will require significant changes, not just in the
> area of scrolling tall images.

Fair enough. I was ignorant of the fact that the failings of the current
behaviour were intentional, due to contraints of the existing infrastructure.

>> Scrolling Upwards with <up>
>> ===========================
>> Currently when scrolling upwards from below an image the behaviour is
>> completely different (and worse) from that observed when scrolling
>> downwards from above one. Surely the upward-going behaviour should be
>> symmetrical with the downward-going behaviour?
>
> No, it should not (and cannot) be symmetrical, for boring technical
> reasons.

From the point-of-view of an ideal interface, yes it should, in my
opinion, be symmetrical. But the ideal can never be realised or it is no
longer ideal, and in this case, obviously there are very practical
reasons as well.

> Again, if the user doesn't have a chance of seeing each part
> of the image at least once, please describe the details.

It works in the way you describe aside from the "glitches" (below)
and those allow the user to see the same part of the image more than once!

>> Furthermore, while scrolling one key press at a time like this, there
>> are occasional "glitches" where the image jumps back to the position it
>> was in immediately before scrolling started.
>
> I don't see it with images I tried.  It would be best if you could
> provide a reproducible recipe, with a specific image, starting from
> "emacs -Q", that shows these glitches.

If it is reproducible on demand, I don't see the pattern. That's what I
meant by the "occasional" in my description.

However, using the recipe provided earlier in this message, I saw it
happen thrice while scrolling up and down the page maybe seven or eight
times, so it is not uncommon on my set up.

I only see it happenning going down the page. (I had previously seen a
very similar "glitch" going up the page, but I realise now that that was
with an image in a Gnus message not an image in Eww -- I don't know if
there is any commonality in the code involved.)

>> Additionally (and I think this may only happen at the same time as the
>> "glitches" mentioned above), the cursor column changes from the first
>> column for no obvious reason, and then appears at the ends of lines of
>> text instead of at the beginning of them.
>
> Likewise.

After the "glitch" occurs at the beginning of scrolling an image, when
the cursor emerges in the text below the image it is at the ends of the
lines instead of in the first column. This seems to happen consistently
after the "glitch" occurs.

> Thanks.

Thank you.

N.




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> From: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson)
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:51:47 -0400
> 
> With an image taller than the window, scrolling behaviour is jerky and
> asymmetrical in Eww.

Please provide a URL to such an image, since the exact behavior
depends on the relative sizes of the image and the default font.

Also, does the behavior you describe happen in "emacs -Q", or do you
need some non-default customizations to see what you describe?

> Scrolling Downwards with <down>
> ===============================
> When scrolling down the page (pressing <down> <down> <down> ...), when
> the cursor reaches the line above the image, it stops going to the next
> line. Instead, the image is smoothly scrolled up in to view. I am told
> that this is the designed behaviour.

Yes, that's the design.

> When the line with the cursor disappears off the top of the window, the
> cursor jumps to the image. There is a slight jerk when this happens,
> which might be worth eliminating.

The jerk should bring the top of the image to the top of the window.
If that is what happens, then that's the intended behavior.

> At some point (and it's approximately when two lines are visible below
> the image) the cursor jumps to the line below the image, and, most
> unfortunately, the window scrolls so that that line is the top line in
> the window. This results in a huge jerk, and it also means that the
> image has disappeared before you can read a caption directly below it.

Wasn't the caption visible before the jump?

In any case, it's impossible to reason about the described behavior
without knowing the image size and size of the font used to display
text around it.

> If the designed behaviour mentioned three paragraphs above this one is
> correct, then it would seem better, when the image has scrolled up
> sufficiently for the line below it to be visible, if the cursor then
> jumped to that line, but stayed on it while additional <down> presses
> continued to scroll the image smoothly upwards until the bottom of the
> image had disappeared off the top of the window, and then the <down>
> presses resumed doing next-line in the normal way.

This is next to impossible with the current design of scrolling in
Emacs.  The goal of pixel-level scrolling in Emacs 24 is to allow the
user a chance to see every part of the image at least once.  If that
goal is reached, the rest are deeper limitations of the current
design, and will require significant changes, not just in the area of
scrolling tall images.

> Scrolling Upwards with <up>
> ===========================
> Currently when scrolling upwards from below an image the behaviour is
> completely different (and worse) from that observed when scrolling
> downwards from above one. Surely the upward-going behaviour should be
> symmetrical with the downward-going behaviour?

No, it should not (and cannot) be symmetrical, for boring technical
reasons.  Again, if the user doesn't have a chance of seeing each part
of the image at least once, please describe the details.

> Furthermore, while scrolling one key press at a time like this, there
> are occasional "glitches" where the image jumps back to the position it
> was in immediately before scrolling started.

I don't see it with images I tried.  It would be best if you could
provide a reproducible recipe, with a specific image, starting from
"emacs -Q", that shows these glitches.

> Additionally (and I think this may only happen at the same time as the
> "glitches" mentioned above), the cursor column changes from the first
> column for no obvious reason, and then appears at the ends of lines of
> text instead of at the beginning of them.

Likewise.

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Subject: 24.3.50; Jerky motion and up/down asymmetry scrolling images in Eww
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:51:47 -0400
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With an image taller than the window, scrolling behaviour is jerky and
asymmetrical in Eww.

Scrolling Downwards with <down>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
When scrolling down the page (pressing <down> <down> <down> ...), when
the cursor reaches the line above the image, it stops going to the next
line. Instead, the image is smoothly scrolled up in to view. I am told
that this is the designed behaviour.

When the line with the cursor disappears off the top of the window, the
cursor jumps to the image. There is a slight jerk when this happens,
which might be worth eliminating.

At some point (and it's approximately when two lines are visible below
the image) the cursor jumps to the line below the image, and, most
unfortunately, the window scrolls so that that line is the top line in
the window. This results in a huge jerk, and it also means that the
image has disappeared before you can read a caption directly below it.

If the designed behaviour mentioned three paragraphs above this one is
correct, then it would seem better, when the image has scrolled up
sufficiently for the line below it to be visible, if the cursor then
jumped to that line, but stayed on it while additional <down> presses
continued to scroll the image smoothly upwards until the bottom of the
image had disappeared off the top of the window, and then the <down>
presses resumed doing next-line in the normal way.

Scrolling Upwards with <up>
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=3D=3D
Currently when scrolling upwards from below an image the behaviour is
completely different (and worse) from that observed when scrolling
downwards from above one. Surely the upward-going behaviour should be
symmetrical with the downward-going behaviour?

Additional Oddities
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Furthermore, while scrolling one key press at a time like this, there
are occasional "glitches" where the image jumps back to the position it
was in immediately before scrolling started.

Additionally (and I think this may only happen at the same time as the
"glitches" mentioned above), the cursor column changes from the first
column for no obvious reason, and then appears at the ends of lines of
text instead of at the beginning of them.

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In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.8)
 of 2014-02-19 on moondust
Repository revision: 116484 lekktu@HIDDEN
Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11404000
System Description:	Fedora release 19 (Schr=C3=B6dinger=E2=80=99s Cat)

Configured using:
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Important settings:
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Recent input:
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<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement>=20
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M-x r e p o r t - <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Auto-saving...done
<mouse-7> is undefined
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<mouse-6> is undefined
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pp mailalias smtpmail bbdb-message sendmail nnir tabify org-capture
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doc-view image-mode dired org-bibtex bibtex org-bbdb org-w3m gnus-uu
yenc diff-mode jka-compr sort smiley gnus-cite flow-fill mm-archive
gnus-bcklg gnus-async gnus-kill qp mail-extr gnus-ml disp-table nndraft
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url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie
url-domsuf url-util url-parse url-vars utf-7 nnimap utf7 gnutls nnfolder
parse-time bbdb-gnus bbdb-mua bbdb-com crm epa-file epa derived epg
netrc network-stream auth-source eieio eieio-core starttls tls
gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art
mm-uu mml2015 epg-config mm-view mml-smime smime password-cache dig
mailcap nntp gnus-cache gnus-sum nnoo gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail
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mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045
ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win gnus gnus-ems
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pcomplete org-list org-faces org-entities noutline outline easy-mmode
org-version ob-emacs-lisp ob ob-tangle org-src ob-ref ob-lob ob-table
ob-keys ob-exp ob-comint comint ansi-color ring ob-core ob-eval
org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs format-spec find-func cal-menu calendar
cal-loaddefs bbdb bbdb-site timezone bbdb-loaddefs csv-mode-autoloads
info package edmacro kmacro recentf tree-widget wid-edit cl-loaddefs
cl-lib easymenu saveplace wheatgrass-theme delsel paren time battery
cua-base cus-start cus-load time-date tooltip electric uniquify
ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd
fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode
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text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule
custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process
dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)




Acknowledgement sent to nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson):
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#16840; Package emacs. Full text available.
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