Received: (at 16974) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2014 02:52:34 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 09 22:52:34 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58563 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1WMqKP-0000wy-NI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 22:52:34 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:31213) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <monnier@HIDDEN>) id 1WMqKM-0000wn-SS for 16974 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 22:52:31 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFMCppy/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCws0BwsUGA2IQgbBLZEKA6R6gV6DEw X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFMCppy/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCws0BwsUGA2IQgbBLZEKA6R6gV6DEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="50962564" Received: from 76-10-154-114.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.154.114]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 09 Mar 2014 22:52:29 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7A168660A5; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 22:52:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> To: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson) Subject: Re: bug#16974: 24.3.50; [Wishlist] Feature to automatically adjust foreground/background colours when contrast below some threshold Message-ID: <jwv7g82davw.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@HIDDEN> References: <8761nnl6yd.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 22:52:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8761nnl6yd.fsf@HIDDEN> (N. Jackson's message of "Sun, 09 Mar 2014 12:36:42 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16974 Cc: 16974 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Such a feature was proposed (and, IIUC, prototyped) in the discussion of > the bizarrely named :distant-foreground face attribute on the > emacs-devel list around the 7th of January (2014). There it met with the > objection that nothing should ever override any of a user's > settings. However, if the user wants their settings overridden in certain > circumcstances, then it seems unreasonable to deny them that. Agreed. I think the way to fix this is: - Add some hook in the C code that "realizes" faces so that Lisp code can tweak the result. - Write a new package which uses this hook to get the above result. Stefan
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[134.190.135.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b16sm49327645qag.14.2014.03.09.08.36.43 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 09 Mar 2014 08:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: nljlistbox2@HIDDEN (N. Jackson) To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 24.3.50; [Wishlist] Feature to automatically adjust foreground/background colours when contrast below some threshold Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 12:36:42 -0300 Message-ID: <8761nnl6yd.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) Wishlist: It would be very useful to have a feature that automatically adjusts the foreground and background colours when the contrast between them is below some threshold value (in some reasonably meaningful units -- perhaps a percentage), while keeping the colours as close as possible to their unadjusted values. Such a feature was proposed (and, IIUC, prototyped) in the discussion of the bizarrely named :distant-foreground face attribute on the emacs-devel list around the 7th of January (2014). There it met with the objection that nothing should ever override any of a user's settings. However, if the user wants their settings overridden in certain circumcstances, then it seems unreasonable to deny them that. Presumably there would be two variables: a Boolean `auto-adjust-contrast' and a numeric `auto-adjust-contrast-threshold' (or names to that effect). The first variable could be eliminated with the convention that the feature be disabled when the threshold variable is set to zero.
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