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No idea if it is worth the effort, but I think it wo= uld > be doable. I invite you to look at the solution that Martin helped to develop that restores tabs with window-configurations from the desktop file using framesets, see the comment in tab-bar.el (just search for =E2=80=9Cwindow-configuration=E2=80=9D).
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Currently, the function assigned to the C-x r map to save a frameset saves all the frames, so in some uses, saving and restoring the window configuration (which affects just one frame) is faster and cleaner. Also, restoring a frameset not only restores the window configuration, but also position on the screen. Of course, it would be possible to add another command, or a prefix parameter, to frameset-to-register, to save just the selected frame, and to restore the frameset without moving the frame. > But in any case, desktop.el probably shouldn't be saving > these useless window configuration registers. Definitely. It's wasted space and time, and does not serve any useful purpose. FWIW, I agree. Documenting the issue and filtering out the window-configurations on desktop save seems like the easier answer right now. Don't think it's really a very urgent or frequent issue. --000000000000267e080593c0c77d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 6:40 AM Lars Inge= brigtsen <<a href=3D"mailto:larsi@HIDDEN">larsi@HIDDEN</a>> wrote= :<br></div>=C2=A0<br>> It sounds like we should perhaps refer users to t= he C-x r f a command<br>> instead...=C2=A0<div><br>Currently, the functi= on assigned to the C-x r map to save a frameset saves all the frames, so in= some uses, saving and restoring the window configuration (which affects ju= st one frame) is faster and cleaner. Also, restoring a frameset not only re= stores the window configuration, but also position on the screen.</div><div= ><br></div><div>Of course, it would be possible to add another command, or = a prefix parameter, to frameset-to-register, to save just the selected fram= e, and to restore the frameset without moving the frame.<br></div><div><br>= </div><div>> But in any case, desktop.el probably shouldn't be savin= g<br>> these useless window configuration registers.</div><div><br></div= ><div>Definitely. It's wasted space and time, and does not serve any us= eful purpose.</div><div><br>FWIW, I agree. Documenting the issue and filter= ing out the window-configurations on desktop save seems like the easier ans= wer right now. Don't think it's really a very urgent or frequent is= sue.</div></div> --000000000000267e080593c0c77d--
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Subject: Re: bug#17090: desktop.el saves unusable register data in
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Curious that my original recipe (fixing the C-x C-x to C-x C-c, as I
suppose I intended) doesn't work now because
emacs -Q -f desktop-read
does not read the desktop file from the current directory ('.' is no longer
in desktop-path).
But anyway, back to the issue:
> Hm, I think I was wrong here -- I'm not getting exactly the same errors
> as in earlier versions of Emacs, but the data that's saved still isn't
> usable.
Correct.
But, I suppose it is perhaps not worth fixing now, because after that we
implemented framesets, and you can do
C-x r f a
and the frameset in register a is saved and correctly reloaded afterwards.
It's a bit of an overkill, of course.
If we want to fix it, perhaps we could trick our way, by using framesets to
save a one-frame frameset with some special info to mark that it is really
intended to be just a window-configuration, and then, when reloading the
desktop, restoring somehow the window configuration into the register, from
the frameset data. No idea if it is worth the effort, but I think it would
be doable.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Curious that my original recipe (fixing the C-x C-x to C-x=
C-c, as I suppose I intended) doesn't work now because=C2=A0<div><br><=
/div><div>=C2=A0 emacs -Q -f desktop-read</div><div><br></div><div>does not=
read the desktop file from the current directory ('.' is no longer=
in desktop-path).=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>But anyway, back to the i=
ssue:<br><br>> Hm, I think I was wrong here -- I'm not getting exact=
ly the same errors<br>> as in earlier versions of Emacs, but the data th=
at's saved still isn't<br>> usable.<br><br></div><div>Correct.</=
div><div><br></div><div>But, I suppose it is perhaps not worth fixing now, =
because after that we implemented framesets, and you can do</div><div><br><=
/div><div>C-x r f a</div><div><br></div><div>and the frameset in register a=
is saved and correctly reloaded afterwards. It's a bit of an overkill,=
of course.<br><br>If we want to fix it, perhaps we could trick our way, by=
using framesets to save a one-frame frameset with some special info to mar=
k that it is really intended to be just a window-configuration, and then, w=
hen reloading the desktop, restoring somehow the window configuration into =
the register, from the frameset data. No idea if it is worth the effort, bu=
t I think it would be doable.</div><div><br></div></div>
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Full text available.Received: (at 17090) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2019 14:42:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 29 10:42:38 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iEaPG-0000gj-Lh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:42:38 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:56150) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iEaPE-0000gY-Ox for 17090 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:42:37 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iEaPA-0001yF-LP; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 16:42:35 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#17090: desktop.el saves unusable register data in register-alist References: <CAAeL0SSMj6bAwTACqj+y23qt5k8Z2HfOiG+LLoUyusNVx3AkwA@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 16:42:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <CAAeL0SSMj6bAwTACqj+y23qt5k8Z2HfOiG+LLoUyusNVx3AkwA@HIDDEN> (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:31:30 +0100") Message-ID: <87tv8vgo4n.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@HIDDEN> writes: > emacs -Q -f desktop-save-mode > C-x r w a > C-x C-x > y <RET> > emacs -Q -f desktop-read > C-x r j > > => a: rectangle starting with Unprintable entity > > and similarly, when using > C-x r f a > > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17090 Cc: 17090 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@HIDDEN> writes: > emacs -Q -f desktop-save-mode > C-x r w a > C-x C-x > y <RET> > emacs -Q -f desktop-read > C-x r j > > =3D> a: rectangle starting with Unprintable entity > > and similarly, when using > C-x r f a > > restoring and then C-x r j brings > > Error running timer: (invalid function "Unprintable entity") I'm unable to reproduce this bug in Emacs 27 (and I also vaguely remember something being fixed in this area a few months ago). Instead of the error, I get: Desktop: 1 frame, 0 buffers restored. and then=20 Register doesn=E2=80=99t contain a buffer position or configuration when trying to C-x r j a-ing. Are you still seeing this problem in Emacs 27? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Package: Emacs Severity: minor emacs -Q -f desktop-save-mode C-x r w a C-x C-x y <RET> emacs -Q -f desktop-read C-x r j => a: rectangle starting with Unprintable entity and similarly, when using C-x r f a restoring and then C-x r j brings Error running timer: (invalid function "Unprintable entity") register-alist is in desktop-globals-to-save by default, so it should work out of the box. but any fix is going to be ugly. Possibilities: - Cleaning register-alist from desktop-save-hook. Not a good idea because the session does not necessarily end on desktop-saving (and even less now, with timer-based saving). - Modify desktop-outvar to skip anything whose serialization matches "Unprintable entity". - Modify desktop-outvar with register-alist specific knowledge, so it filters out only some entries when serializing. - Design a more generic mechanism to allow variables to have cleaning specific functions. The first three options are horribly hackish, and the last one is a bit overkill if we only want to avoid the register-alist issue (the mechanism would be generally useful, but no one has ever asked for it...) Ideas?
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