GNU bug report logs - #17654
latin-pre.el input-methods are not consistent

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>

Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 14:44:02 UTC

Severity: minor

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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Report forwarded to jch <at> pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr, bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: latin-pre.el input-methods are not consistent
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 10:42:50 -0400
>> So I installed the suggested patch into `emacs-24'.
> Ok, I'll see if I get used to it.  Thanks for your help.

You're welcome.  I'm just creating a new bug report here about the
inconsistent use of ,c vs ~c (and probably others) in the various input
methods of latin-pre.el.
Some of those input methods should probably be merged or deprecated,
I think, since they partly date back to the pre-unicode era where the
various latin-N charsets were all disjoint.


        Stefan




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Message #8 received at 17654 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 17654 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch <at> pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr>
Subject: Re: bug#17654: latin-pre.el input-methods are not consistent
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 03:12:48 +0100
Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> So I installed the suggested patch into `emacs-24'.
>> Ok, I'll see if I get used to it.  Thanks for your help.
>
> You're welcome.  I'm just creating a new bug report here about the
> inconsistent use of ,c vs ~c (and probably others) in the various input
> methods of latin-pre.el.
> Some of those input methods should probably be merged or deprecated,
> I think, since they partly date back to the pre-unicode era where the
> various latin-N charsets were all disjoint.

It seems that this has gotten some more work in the passing years, for
instance:

commit 80c3b9aebaf99da73d10a949f475c5778e843cf8
Author:     Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
AuthorDate: Fri Jan 11 17:45:25 2019 +0100
Commit:     Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
CommitDate: Mon Jan 14 11:19:41 2019 +0100

    Improve some of the breve/caron/cedilla mappings
    
That adds a bunch of ~c/,c mappings.

In any case, I'm not sure deprecating/reworking the rest of this would
be helpful -- people are really fond of their key bindings.  Is there
more to be done in this bug report?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




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Message #11 received at 17654 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 17654 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch <at> pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr>
Subject: Re: bug#17654: latin-pre.el input-methods are not consistent
Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 07:44:05 +0200
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> In any case, I'm not sure deprecating/reworking the rest of this would
> be helpful -- people are really fond of their key bindings.  Is there
> more to be done in this bug report?

There was no response in a few months, so I'm assuming "not", and
closing this bug report.  There's probably things that can be improved,
but perhaps more specific bug reports for those things would be nice.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




bug closed, send any further explanations to 17654 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 29 May 2021 05:45:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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