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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2014 22:39:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 04 18:39:50 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1X3C8z-0007dh-VO for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:39:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN>) id 1X3C8w-0007dS-A6 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:39:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN>) id 1X3C8l-0002lr-GZ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:39:40 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN>) id 1X3C8l-0002lf-DS for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:39:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58624) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN>) id 1X3C8f-0000e4-Hd for bug-guile@HIDDEN; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:39:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN>) id 1X3C8a-0002jw-2Q for bug-guile@HIDDEN; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:39:29 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]:35618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN>) id 1X3C8Z-0002js-RV for bug-guile@HIDDEN; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:39:23 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id cc10so4414244wib.12 for <bug-guile@HIDDEN>; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 15:39:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject; bh=c2iDqGsiLfISMTM3o6MQzHg+nZ4k/yBvGAZ61TJVDLM=; b=V1t6+WSl+SH9TgA1UQeWrra/UTcIGfmPaEn+uaK3IWNeXkIEbkzf/6RY13wL6c06ES g89juCO4dUmfE3BeyDEjtlTvjwmySSvpVTTDiV21ZLSZoqYQx8qHfYa5wooufj5DpXoI 5aPT12i+59EWTaJMA+qbTmvINSYw7agMnOOj+onJ5oHli7IS9FV3l7RaTRwTFDeWJUoQ nlUomcR4i4PFUGmYFw9k2j1wJHpJ/wXtY0rBZyOz3mYGfl6NDQTClpWt+IpLf05BaPXa 3eoKdppknZ+vDg+c+oOaE6ruUmqgZ6s4wb4s8p618MGRsecuDK8izvNtUQ2OPvjZhRJT uUWw== X-Received: by 10.194.222.5 with SMTP id qi5mr14756016wjc.62.1404513562862; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 15:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from taylan.uni.cx ([85.100.205.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s3sm71737603wje.36.2014.07.04.15.39.21 for <bug-guile@HIDDEN> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Jul 2014 15:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 01:39:04 +0300 Message-Id: <87zjgoda0n.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN> To: bug-guile@HIDDEN Subject: Nitpick: (lambda () (begin)) errors X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Disclaimer: this is probably just a nitpick. On guile-user someone brought up that (lambda () (begin)) errors, arguably counter-intuitively: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2014-07/msg00005.html After much investigation over this trivial matter, I found that while it's compliant with the RnRS (it's unspecified), it means Guile extends the RnRS grammar in an "unexpected" way. According to R5 and 7RS: <lambda expression> -> (lambda <formals> <body>) <body> -> <definition>* <sequence> <sequence> -> <command>* <expression> <expression> -> (other stuff) | <derived expression> <derived expression> -> (other stuff) | (begin <sequence>) meaning that the "(begin)" in that lambda body can be matched up to <derived expression>, where it then almost matches the `begin' form but fails only because in the RnRS grammar it must have at least one expression (see <sequence> again; this is also reflected in section 4.2.3 where this `begin' form is explained; its template clearly shows it must have at least one expression operand). Guile on the other hand *generally* allows the expression-begin to have zero operands, having it return *unspecified*. So one would expect it to work here as well, since one expects that this is a small incremental extension to the RnRS grammar, but that's not the case. If I'm not mistaken, `expand-body' in psyntax would be the place to tackle this, and from a quick glance I'm guessing the benefit/effort ratio for changing this is not very high. :-) Taylan
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