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> 2 is the way to go IMHO.
An alternative to 2 is to create the GUI terminal later in
startup.el. This way, all the .emacs code is read while the selected
terminal is the "dumb" initial terminal, e.g. messages are sent to
stderr and the GUI frame is created after the .emacs is read so it can
take user settings. into account.
I've been using a local patch that does it for several years, very
happily, but of course, it will break any ~/.emacs that tries to check
things like screen size.
Stefan
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Hi.=20
2 is the way to go IMHO.=20
3 is way harder.=20
But so far we have done 1...
Jan D.=20
> 31 jul 2014 kl. 11:12 skrev Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> I see 3 different approches to deal with this issue:
>=20
> 1. It doesn't matter, it's just a cosmetic issue and it's not worth the ef=
fort. Besides it won't completely eliminate the startup ugliness because def=
ault and initial frame parameters could be different and so one of them won'=
t match the resources anyway. In this case I would just remove the misleadin=
g assertion from the manual, in order to avoid false expectations.
>=20
> 2. Keep the frame window unmapped until it's completely initialized and th=
en make it visible. If startup is taking too long, show a splash while launc=
hing. This is a pretty straightforward solution, at least conceptually.
>=20
> 3. Fix it so that the frame won't be resized during startup.
>=20
> I'm completely unable to measure the complexity of doing 2 or 3. If these t=
asks are anything above easy I could certainly live in a world where 1 is tr=
ue.
>=20
>> On Jul 31, 2014 5:49 AM, "martin rudalics" <rudalics@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> > It does not start with a tool bar and then remove it if .emacs disables=
it. It is the other way around, starts with no tool bar and then adds it.
>>=20
>> IIUC this is what Carlos mentioned. On systems with internal toolbars,
>> however, we initially assume that the toolbar exists and later on remove
>> it if the user doesn't want it. And the real initial height of an
>> internal toolbar is only known after the redisplay algorithm has passed
>> over it for the first time.
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi. </div><div><br></div><div>2 is the way to go IMHO. </div><div>3 is way harder. </div><div>But so far we have done 1...</div><div><br></div><div> Jan D. </div><div><br>31 jul 2014 kl. 11:12 skrev Carlos Pita <<a href="mailto:carlosjosepita@HIDDEN">carlosjosepita@HIDDEN</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>I see 3 different approches to deal with this issue:</p>
<p>1. It doesn't matter, it's just a cosmetic issue and it's not worth the effort. Besides it won't completely eliminate the startup ugliness because default and initial frame parameters could be different and so one of them won't match the resources anyway. In this case I would just remove the misleading assertion from the manual, in order to avoid false expectations.</p>
<p>2. Keep the frame window unmapped until it's completely initialized and then make it visible. If startup is taking too long, show a splash while launching. This is a pretty straightforward solution, at least conceptually.</p>
<p>3. Fix it so that the frame won't be resized during startup.</p>
<p>I'm completely unable to measure the complexity of doing 2 or 3. If these tasks are anything above easy I could certainly live in a world where 1 is true.<br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 31, 2014 5:49 AM, "martin rudalics" <<a href="mailto:rudalics@HIDDEN">rudalics@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> It does not start with a tool bar and then remove it if .emacs disables it. It is the other way around, starts with no tool bar and then adds it.<br>
<br>
IIUC this is what Carlos mentioned. On systems with internal toolbars,<br>
however, we initially assume that the toolbar exists and later on remove<br>
it if the user doesn't want it. And the real initial height of an<br>
internal toolbar is only known after the redisplay algorithm has passed<br>
over it for the first time.<br>
<br>
martin<br>
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Hi.=20
31 jul 2014 kl. 09:11 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>:
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:57:05 +0200
>> From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@HIDDEN>
>> CC: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>=20
>> As far as I know, for the first frame when .emacs has not been read yet,=20=
>> Emacs internally says that no tool bar shall be added.
>> After .emacs has been read, and tool bar mode is still active (i.e. not=20=
>> disabled by .emacs) it adds the tool bar. So this is generic code that=20=
>> is at work.
>=20
> Thanks. So I was mistaken: this does not depend on the toolkit. In
> that case, I guess we could change that to work more like the menu
> bar, which (AFAIR) is shown on the initial frame.
When I looked at this, the tool bar items where not initialised at frame cre=
ation. So there where no items to put there even if we did show the toolbar=
. For Gtk it will show a bar a few pixels high. It is hard to figure out ho=
w high an item will be later on as this depends on the size of the image, pa=
dding and so on.=20
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Full text available.Received: (at 18155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2014 09:12:32 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 31 05:12:32 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52466 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1XCmPX-0005MW-TT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 05:12:32 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com ([209.85.215.45]:63456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN>) id 1XCmPU-0005MG-LL for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 05:12:29 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ty20so1804195lab.32 for <18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:12:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0JyeewSa8z8oQ4EtSzlFTzioaBKrCIqzCA5twIGH3kQ=; b=KjFzK42y+fa86Yx7UbbprnQ/YV2vHHuxiWK1bD/FMkaEznygvnpR2ut8T3Lt9khKcO cr0jOIGz3uqjhsk1L94FI6kHhQ81OpZAzrwKDLBzahiiEiXZ4DRNJo1yW2MI8kyiPEF+ +wqWGH668+j/X15a/rjvvKKY9qfQyNF0zqD8p5UXh/9eweJAzsPw9nfJ5ArC2QoqiYex 2T1stqlP1H0vuLQEpKzuIgV93CNwpEIvZ+1gQw1dXGcfWBRgVlOA93ej4Plfi1Hcc8XQ M8VveNlYaBxJfkrPCNu34gunxohIc1IHfDCIroMOU6b30Wdo0ZbFu6ibkZI/44TDPYZv YC4Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.234.71 with SMTP id uc7mr10728317lac.22.1406797941003; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.137.38 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.137.38 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:12:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53DA031D.1000708@HIDDEN> References: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a97qf6nz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83silirs58.fsf@HIDDEN> <53D9E8C1.7080803@HIDDEN> <53DA031D.1000708@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:12:20 -0300 Message-ID: <CAELgYheuRDCn2zRR+yqqd3W0-s9asJ+N11AdPR8vUzNo7b3S5w@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame From: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN> To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113422aa8b5dfd04ff79ab4a X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18155 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, "Jan D." <jan.h.d@HIDDEN>, 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a113422aa8b5dfd04ff79ab4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I see 3 different approches to deal with this issue: 1. It doesn't matter, it's just a cosmetic issue and it's not worth the effort. Besides it won't completely eliminate the startup ugliness because default and initial frame parameters could be different and so one of them won't match the resources anyway. In this case I would just remove the misleading assertion from the manual, in order to avoid false expectations. 2. Keep the frame window unmapped until it's completely initialized and then make it visible. If startup is taking too long, show a splash while launching. This is a pretty straightforward solution, at least conceptually. 3. Fix it so that the frame won't be resized during startup. I'm completely unable to measure the complexity of doing 2 or 3. If these tasks are anything above easy I could certainly live in a world where 1 is true. On Jul 31, 2014 5:49 AM, "martin rudalics" <rudalics@HIDDEN> wrote: > > It does not start with a tool bar and then remove it if .emacs disables > it. It is the other way around, starts with no tool bar and then adds it. > > IIUC this is what Carlos mentioned. On systems with internal toolbars, > however, we initially assume that the toolbar exists and later on remove > it if the user doesn't want it. And the real initial height of an > internal toolbar is only known after the redisplay algorithm has passed > over it for the first time. > > martin > --001a113422aa8b5dfd04ff79ab4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p>I see 3 different approches to deal with this issue:</p> <p>1. It doesn't matter, it's just a cosmetic issue and it's no= t worth the effort. Besides it won't completely eliminate the startup u= gliness because default and initial frame parameters could be different and= so one of them won't match the resources anyway. In this case I would = just remove the misleading assertion from the manual, in order to avoid fal= se expectations.</p> <p>2. Keep the frame window unmapped until it's completely initialized = and then make it visible. If startup is taking too long, show a splash whil= e launching. This is a pretty straightforward solution, at least conceptual= ly.</p> <p>3. Fix it so that the frame won't be resized during startup.</p> <p>I'm completely unable to measure the complexity of doing 2 or 3. If = these tasks are anything above easy I could certainly live in a world where= 1 is true.<br></p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 31, 2014 5:49 AM, "martin rudalics&q= uot; <<a href=3D"mailto:rudalics@HIDDEN">rudalics@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<= br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0= 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> > It does not start with a tool bar and then remove it if .emacs disable= s it. =C2=A0It is the other way around, starts with no tool bar and then ad= ds it.<br> <br> IIUC this is what Carlos mentioned. =C2=A0On systems with internal toolbars= ,<br> however, we initially assume that the toolbar exists and later on remove<br= > it if the user doesn't want it. =C2=A0And the real initial height of an= <br> internal toolbar is only known after the redisplay algorithm has passed<br> over it for the first time.<br> <br> martin<br> </blockquote></div> --001a113422aa8b5dfd04ff79ab4a--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#18155; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 18155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2014 08:49:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 31 04:49:57 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52460 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1XCm3h-0004od-2w for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 04:49:57 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:51781) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1XCm3e-0004oO-Q9 for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 04:49:55 -0400 Received: from [62.46.214.118] ([62.46.214.118]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MHX0m-1XBger0ooe-003OYs; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:49:45 +0200 Message-ID: <53DA031D.1000708@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:49:33 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame References: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a97qf6nz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83silirs58.fsf@HIDDEN> <53D9E8C1.7080803@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <53D9E8C1.7080803@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:PN3yo+K9/YUIhds9xr1bZvv780omz08cn1abWfUiuDdo9CPI5dY Ed5yfEae3/DZsTs2HGAQrQc9NPRcWSxeO+K8K6HtChX7mHJ9e+yTLDmQ3cjwlBm1hHLEeeK JHmVirzndnoDjCMF4PnT8w3cQkVnFSGcG4D9hTegIaurt4fVljhR0ov6/ZFchPK2i9t1593 iGxGTrpBnPOLp2rBV5EGg== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18155 Cc: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > It does not start with a tool bar and then remove it if .emacs disables it. It is the other way around, starts with no tool bar and then adds it. IIUC this is what Carlos mentioned. On systems with internal toolbars, however, we initially assume that the toolbar exists and later on remove it if the user doesn't want it. And the real initial height of an internal toolbar is only known after the redisplay algorithm has passed over it for the first time. martin
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#18155; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 18155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2014 07:17:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 31 03:17:21 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52347 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1XCkc4-0002TU-ED for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 03:17:20 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com ([209.85.215.46]:58372) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN>) id 1XCkc1-0002TE-VO for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 03:17:18 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b8so1708883lan.19 for <18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:17:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LPxD1AbzQCoDKade5+ABoLZo1Kw93oN7oEP94NMnoco=; b=LTRT/2xGfNXePOTpf/m9zVrWW/glnhmlPTCgfPOGVRevucdwoIlcL8QGGIDeYUi7C/ mssrPaLQ8dIcKejDf8FsbJRZJK9UApG7KX1qsniIq9O6MQWpjlOkTzMMA6qmQt2qEQA0 Fi2ugHa1BJCoaaCZHzO5DlakU4Luz2U/NOyMKYpJU7JEcBboQ/5eNrzkK7WV5VulsGG2 TgEtI5ACWiQJMs4ZHJD1v1vnpUg14zSQQcTfQkQBA/OJU+LCyMAMC9NkWJdslitPV3p+ RTyxQx3Ivabl/hN/GXGPfSeKzdfmAMidtbo9ETofW1d03AZNLkumhbeHgsfewF1nqbsA e3Rg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.43.65 with SMTP id u1mr9946828lal.5.1406791031959; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.137.38 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.137.38 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:17:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r412roig.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a97qf6nz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83silirs58.fsf@HIDDEN> <53D9E8C1.7080803@HIDDEN> <83r412roig.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 04:17:11 -0300 Message-ID: <CAELgYhcvPMAAMH0OCT+bXbOvPjcxjewbXRjLCR5fwwRufuzShg@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame From: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c240ccbbb69204ff780f27 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18155 Cc: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@HIDDEN>, 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a11c240ccbbb69204ff780f27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Take into account that the geometry will also depend on the toobar position and there is no documented resource for that, afaics. And then there's the question of the toolbar style (icons only, icons plus text, etc) but I guess that is already configurable in the gtk3 css file. Cheers, Carlos. On Jul 31, 2014 4:11 AM, "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:57:05 +0200 > > From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@HIDDEN> > > CC: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > As far as I know, for the first frame when .emacs has not been read yet, > > Emacs internally says that no tool bar shall be added. > > After .emacs has been read, and tool bar mode is still active (i.e. not > > disabled by .emacs) it adds the tool bar. So this is generic code that > > is at work. > > Thanks. So I was mistaken: this does not depend on the toolkit. In > that case, I guess we could change that to work more like the menu > bar, which (AFAIR) is shown on the initial frame. > --001a11c240ccbbb69204ff780f27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p>Take into account that the geometry will also depend on the toobar posit= ion and there is no documented resource for that, afaics. And then there= 9;s the question of the toolbar style (icons only, icons plus text, etc) bu= t I guess that is already configurable in the gtk3 css file. Cheers, Carlos= .</p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 31, 2014 4:11 AM, "Eli Zaretskii&quo= t; <<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br type= =3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8= ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:57:05 +0200<br> > From: "Jan D." <<a href=3D"mailto:jan.h.d@HIDDEN">jan= .h.d@HIDDEN</a>><br> > CC: <a href=3D"mailto:18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org">18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org</a>= <br> ><br> > As far as I know, for the first frame when .emacs has not been read ye= t,<br> > Emacs internally says that no tool bar shall be added.<br> > After .emacs has been read, and tool bar mode is still active (i.e. no= t<br> > disabled by .emacs) it adds the tool bar. =C2=A0So this is generic cod= e that<br> > is at work.<br> <br> Thanks. =C2=A0So I was mistaken: this does not depend on the toolkit. =C2= =A0In<br> that case, I guess we could change that to work more like the menu<br> bar, which (AFAIR) is shown on the initial frame.<br> </blockquote></div> --001a11c240ccbbb69204ff780f27--
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Full text available.Received: (at 18155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2014 07:11:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 31 03:11:29 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52343 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1XCkWO-0002KJ-KW for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 03:11:28 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:58179) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1XCkWL-0002K4-CX for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 03:11:26 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N9K00B00E4VBF00@HIDDEN> for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:11:18 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N9K00BDFEMPG400@HIDDEN>; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:11:14 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:11:35 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame In-reply-to: <53D9E8C1.7080803@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@HIDDEN> Message-id: <83r412roig.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a97qf6nz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83silirs58.fsf@HIDDEN> <53D9E8C1.7080803@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18155 Cc: carlosjosepita@HIDDEN, 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:57:05 +0200 > From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@HIDDEN> > CC: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > As far as I know, for the first frame when .emacs has not been read yet, > Emacs internally says that no tool bar shall be added. > After .emacs has been read, and tool bar mode is still active (i.e. not > disabled by .emacs) it adds the tool bar. So this is generic code that > is at work. Thanks. So I was mistaken: this does not depend on the toolkit. In that case, I guess we could change that to work more like the menu bar, which (AFAIR) is shown on the initial frame.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#18155; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 18155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2014 06:57:18 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 31 02:57:18 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52336 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1XCkIf-0001yQ-Jf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:57:18 -0400 Received: from mailfe09.swip.net ([212.247.155.1]:38882 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <jan.h.d@HIDDEN>) id 1XCkIb-0001yB-8X for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:57:14 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@HIDDEN [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 347131894; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:57:06 +0200 Message-ID: <53D9E8C1.7080803@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:57:05 +0200 From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame References: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a97qf6nz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83silirs58.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83silirs58.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18155 Cc: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-07-31 07:53: >> From: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN> >> Cc: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:17:52 -0300 >> >> >> Below is the complete info. > > Thanks. > >> In GNU Emacs 24.3.92.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.12.2) >> of 2014-07-25 on localhost >> Configured using: >> `configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --libexecdir=/usr/lib >> --localstatedir=/var --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft >> 'CFLAGS=-march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong >> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4' CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 >> LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro' > > AFAIK, GTK is one of the toolkits which draw their own toolbar. > > Perhaps Jan (CC'ed) could tell if your wish can be granted. > As far as I know, for the first frame when .emacs has not been read yet, Emacs internally says that no tool bar shall be added. After .emacs has been read, and tool bar mode is still active (i.e. not disabled by .emacs) it adds the tool bar. So this is generic code that is at work. It does not start with a tool bar and then remove it if .emacs disables it. It is the other way around, starts with no tool bar and then adds it. Jan D.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#18155; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 18155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2014 05:52:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 31 01:52:58 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52288 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1XCjIO-0000Pf-Px for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:52:57 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:40947) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1XCjIL-0000PN-3R for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:52:54 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N9K00H00AWT0V00@HIDDEN> for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:52:46 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N9K00GGTAZXXQ10@HIDDEN>; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:52:46 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:53:07 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame In-reply-to: <86a97qf6nz.fsf@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN> Message-id: <83silirs58.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit References: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a97qf6nz.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18155 Cc: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= <jan.h.d@HIDDEN>, 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN> > Cc: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:17:52 -0300 > > > Below is the complete info. Thanks. > In GNU Emacs 24.3.92.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.12.2) > of 2014-07-25 on localhost > Configured using: > `configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --libexecdir=/usr/lib > --localstatedir=/var --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft > 'CFLAGS=-march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong > --param=ssp-buffer-size=4' CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 > LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro' AFAIK, GTK is one of the toolkits which draw their own toolbar. Perhaps Jan (CC'ed) could tell if your wish can be granted.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#18155; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 18155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2014 05:17:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 31 01:17:50 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52282 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1XCikP-0007zJ-48 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:17:49 -0400 Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.220.175]:33829) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN>) id 1XCikL-0007z4-Pi for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:17:46 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ik5so3406843vcb.20 for <18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:17:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=2q3MBwjCbuufef4uWNRy0ONyJcLxz334Jp1xtj+h/pw=; b=u3E5J5DSwQI0ghfJ7hQRgbfhXqHMzgJwsuPWN8m6JxCGULRA+hWrm24slHB+rVQ7MY Lqmvmjsy/z9NBFTgJVXMVOHgSv4FFD5XPkm76Z99g9ihvApvhZDtWary2g0O336bwTSz QzPuZj4A3bn+DUsAGNxVZebonA/ZtuQfNYga7l/1rpQf6KnmXeUITrFebXuV/a2lWsCe uhmJ93oQK4Yq6hYFDgXo6QKEzMFSTuKdF9SqUv8Ifq9KsanduBmSw7alpRaQbq+hEdwc l/ocDRY3GUV3QDtW8d1WwA1BrVWmahMMPSx1scK+sV6MtZOosR/ykX5L2xD9OEMQUMjP DBCQ== X-Received: by 10.52.148.2 with SMTP id to2mr12678052vdb.38.1406783859907; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([186.137.159.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x3sm2662483vet.5.2014.07.30.22.17.37 for <multiple recipients> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:17:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame References: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:17:52 -0300 In-Reply-To: <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 31 Jul 2014 07:51:29 +0300") Message-ID: <86a97qf6nz.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18155 Cc: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Below is the complete info. Regards, Carlos. In GNU Emacs 24.3.92.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.12.2) of 2014-07-25 on localhost Configured using: `configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft 'CFLAGS=-march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4' CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro' Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_MONETARY: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: gpm-mouse-mode: t show-paren-mode: t winner-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t ido-everywhere: t global-auto-complete-mode: t auto-complete-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x 2 ESC x r e s p DEL DEL p o TAB r t - e m TAB RET Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Making completion list... Load-path shadows: /home/loscar/.emacs.d/elpa/popup-20140207.1702/popup hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auto-complete/popup /home/loscar/.emacs.d/elpa/auto-complete-20140726.303/auto-complete hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auto-complete/auto-complete /home/loscar/.emacs.d/elpa/auto-complete-20140726.303/auto-complete-config hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auto-complete/auto-complete-config ~/.emacs.d/lisp/python hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3.92/lisp/progmodes/python Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message idna rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mail-utils help-mode t-mouse flymake paren winner windmove wombat-theme ac-nrepl cider-interaction apropos arc-mode archive-mode cider-doc org-table org org-macro org-footnote org-pcomplete org-list org-faces org-entities noutline outline easy-mmode org-version ob-emacs-lisp ob ob-tangle org-src ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-keys ob-exp ob-comint ob-core ob-eval org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs find-func cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs cider-test cider-stacktrace cider-client nrepl-client cider-util ewoc etags dash clojure-mode imenu inf-lisp tramp tramp-compat auth-source eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv eieio-core gnus-util mm-util mail-prsvr password-cache tramp-loaddefs cl-macs trampver cl gv ess-toolbar ess-mouse mouseme thingatpt browse-url ess-menu ess-swv ess-noweb ess-noweb-font-lock-mode ess-bugs-l essd-els ess-sas-d ess-sas-l ess-sas-a shell pcomplete ess-sta-d ess-sta-l cc-vars cc-defs make-regexp ess-sp6-d ess-sp3-d ess-julia ess-r-d compile ess-tracebug format-spec ess-roxy advice hideshow ess-help ess-developer ess-r-args eldoc help-fns ess-s-l ess ess-inf comint ansi-color ring ess-mode ess-noweb-mode ess-utils time-date ess-custom executable ess-compat ess-site ido auto-complete-config auto-complete edmacro kmacro popup cl-loaddefs cl-lib info easymenu package tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) Memory information: ((conses 8 221331 11150) (symbols 24 35290 0) (miscs 20 103 187) (strings 16 64577 10960) (string-bytes 1 1889964) (vectors 8 31660) (vector-slots 4 1312017 12174) (floats 8 198 270) (intervals 28 265 0) (buffers 512 13) (heap 1024 18310 787))
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#18155; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 18155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2014 04:51:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 31 00:51:19 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52278 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1XCiKk-0007I3-6Y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:51:18 -0400 Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:35872) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1XCiKh-0007Ho-0F for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:51:15 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N9K00J007P79J00@HIDDEN> for 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 07:46:29 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N9K00G0X7XHSM30@HIDDEN>; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 07:46:29 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 07:51:29 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame In-reply-to: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: carlosjosepita@HIDDEN Message-id: <83vbqeruzy.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18155 Cc: 18155 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: carlosjosepita@HIDDEN > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:27:14 -0300 > > This is true except when the toolbar is visible. In this case, no matter > the value of the toolBar resource, the frame is initially shown without > a toolbar and then the geometry is modified to fit the toolbar. This > produces unpleasant visual artifacts during emacs startup. Thanks. Please make a point of using "M-x report-emacs-bug RET" to report bugs. In this case, that command would have collected and included in the report the most relevant information: what toolkit was your Emacs built with. With some toolkits, the toolbar is created and shown by the toolkit code, out of Emacs's control; with others, Emacs itself draws the toolbar and has full control. It is not clear which case is yours. Please provide that missing information, to make the report more complete and clear.
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The elisp reference states that: > Emacs creates the initial frame before it reads your init file. After > reading that file, Emacs checks initial-frame-alist, and applies the > parameter settings in the altered value to the already created initial > frame. > If these settings affect the frame geometry and appearance, you'll see > the frame appear with the wrong ones and then change to the specified > ones. If that bothers you, you can specify the same geometry and > appearance with X resources; those do take effect before the frame is > created. See X Resources. This is true except when the toolbar is visible. In this case, no matter the value of the toolBar resource, the frame is initially shown without a toolbar and then the geometry is modified to fit the toolbar. This produces unpleasant visual artifacts during emacs startup. I'm afraid that fixing this will require to add a resource to set the toolbar position, too. I don't know how viable this is. In case it's not desirable to implement this feature I think some remark has to be added to the aforementioned documentation excerpt. Otherwise this is indeed a bug, as the behavior contradicts what's documented. Cheers -- Carlos
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