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Emacs 24.4: M-x customize-group paren-showing-faces doesn't allow any editing of the faces.

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Package: emacs; Severity: minor; Reported by: Alan Mackenzie <acm@HIDDEN>; dated Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:02:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Subject: Re: bug#18724: Emacs 24.4: M-x customize-group paren-showing-faces
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>>>>> Alan Mackenzie <acm@HIDDEN> writes:

 > References: <20141014215532.GC6430@HIDDEN>
 > 	<mailman.11144.1413324852.1147.bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>

	(One of those Mailman-mangled Message-Id:=E2=80=99s, as it seems.  My
	message had Message-Id: <878ukiz4ec.fsf@HIDDEN>.)

[=E2=80=A6]

 > "Show Show Paren Match face: [sample]"

 > with the first "Show", the active one, being indistiguishable from
 > the second "Show".  They really ought to have distinct faces.

	They use =E2=80=98custom-visibility=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98custom-face-tag=
=E2=80=99, which then
	inherit from =E2=80=98link=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98custom-variable-tag=E2=80=
=99, respectively.

	The first one is cyan, the second is bold light blue, which are
	indeed indistinguishable on a (VGA-style) tty.  (They /are/ on,
	say, a monochrome XTerm, for instance.)

 > I fired up a GUI Emacs to see what that's like, and that's no problem
 > at all.

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Subject: Re: bug#18724: Emacs 24.4: M-x customize-group
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Hi, Ivan.

Ivan Shmakov <ivan@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>>> Alan Mackenzie <acm@HIDDEN> writes:

> > In Emacs 24.4, start with -Q.

> > Do M-x customize-group <RET> paren-showing-faces <RET>.

> > This now displays the two pertinent faces.  There is, however, no
> > widget by which they might be edited.

> > Starting Emacs without -Q doesn't seem to help.

>        Works for me as of the last week?s HEAD ? the widgets appear
>        when I RET on the ?[Show]? buttons.

Ah, OK.  I see it now.  What I saw (on a tty) was:

    "Show Paren Match face: [sample]"

.  What was actually there was

    "Show Show Paren Match face: [sample]"

, with the first "Show", the active one, being indistiguishable from the
second "Show".  They really ought to have distinct faces.

I fired up a GUI Emacs to see what that's like, and that's no problem at
all.

> -- 
> FSF associate member #7257  http://boycottsystemd.org/  ? 3013 B6A0 230E 334A

-- 
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>>>>> Alan Mackenzie <acm@HIDDEN> writes:

 > In Emacs 24.4, start with -Q.

 > Do M-x customize-group <RET> paren-showing-faces <RET>.

 > This now displays the two pertinent faces.  There is, however, no
 > widget by which they might be edited.

 > Starting Emacs without -Q doesn't seem to help.

	Works for me as of the last week=E2=80=99s HEAD =E2=80=93 the widgets appe=
ar
	when I RET on the =E2=80=9C[Show]=E2=80=9D buttons.

--=20
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Hi, Emacs.

In Emacs 24.4, start with -Q.

Do M-x customize-group <RET> paren-showing-faces <RET>.

This now displays the two pertinent faces.  There is, however, no widget
by which they might be edited.

Starting Emacs without -Q doesn't seem to help.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).




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