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24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method

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From: Michael Grünewald <michipili <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 23:17:33 +0100

It is not clear how to use certain combinations for the input method
`tex-input-method'.

The command `describe-input-method` displays the following information:

    key     character(s)  [type a key (sequence) and select one from the
list]
    -------- ------------
    \"A     Ӓ Ǟ Ä

It is however unclear how select one item from this list.

The info page Input Methods [1] does not say anything about it. The info
page
Select an input method[2] contains misleading information. Indeed it
suggests
to use the function M-x quail-show-key to find out how to type a character,
but invoking this function on a ü for instance leads to the sequence "\"u"
which does not produce a ü but a ṳ. Also, the ṳ is first underlined which
suggests that more input can be added to select the right character.
I could nowhere find a clue, which input can be added to select the
right character, that is, a ü.

[1]
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Input-Methods.html#Input-Methods
[2]
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Select-Input-Method.html#Select-Input-Method

----
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<escape> x s e t SPC i n <tab> <return> T e X <return>
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o r t <tab> <return>

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You can run the command `set-input-method' with C-x RET C-\
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-- 
Michael

Message #8 received at 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Michael Grünewald <michipili <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 21:03:32 -0400

> It is not clear how to use certain combinations for the input method
> `tex-input-method'.

I don't know that input method.  Emacs comes with a "TeX" input method,
but no "tex-input-method".

> The command `describe-input-method` displays the following information:
>     key     character(s)  [type a key (sequence) and select one from the list]
>     -------- ------------
>     \"A     Ӓ Ǟ Ä

The TeX input method doesn't have such a thing either.
For \"A it just has:

\"A Ä    \Phi  Φ    \c{l} ļ    \=\'{o}  ṓ    ^\turned m               ᵚ


        Stefan

Message #11 received at 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Michael Grünewald <michipili <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 07:30:32 +0100

Michael Grünewald <michipili <at> gmail.com> writes:

> The command `describe-input-method` displays the following information:
>
>     key     character(s)  [type a key (sequence) and select one from the
> list]
>     -------- ------------
>     \"A     Ӓ Ǟ Ä
>
> It is however unclear how select one item from this list.

Type the digit as shown in the minibuffer.

Andreas.

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Message #14 received at 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael <michipili <at> gmail.com>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 12:42:29 +0100

Andreas Schwab wrote:
> Michael Grünewald <michipili <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> The command `describe-input-method` displays the following information:
>>
>>     key     character(s)  [type a key (sequence) and select one from the
>> list]
>>     -------- ------------
>>     \"A     Ӓ Ǟ Ä
> Type the digit as shown in the minibuffer.
When I type in \"A the minibuffer displays the sequence \"A (no digit!)
and the buffer displays an underlined Ä. In this state (S):

1. Pressing TAB displays the message

Possible completion and corresponding characters are:
 \"A:(1/1) 1.Ӓ 2.Ǟ 3.Ä

2. Pressing the digit 1 results in the buffer containing
Ä1, this happens in state (S) and also if hit TAB to pop-up the message
displayed in 1. Similar behaviour is observed for other digits and other
key sequences (like \"u).

Message #17 received at 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael <michipili <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 12:49:54 +0100

Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> It is not clear how to use certain combinations for the input method
>> `tex-input-method'.
> I don't know that input method.  Emacs comes with a "TeX" input method,
> but no "tex-input-method".
I meant "TeX", indeed.
>> The command `describe-input-method` displays the following information:
>>     key     character(s)  [type a key (sequence) and select one from the list]
>>     -------- ------------
>>     \"A     Ӓ Ǟ Ä
> The TeX input method doesn't have such a thing either.
> For \"A it just has:
>
> \"A Ä    \Phi  Φ    \c{l} ļ    \=\'{o}  ṓ    ^\turned m               ᵚ
The behviour I observe in my Emacs is:

- \"A is bound to the three letters Ӓ Ǟ Ä.
- \Phi is bound as you describe.
- \c{l} is bound as you describe.
- \=\'{o} is not bound.
- ^\turned m is not bound.

Message #20 received at 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Michael <michipili <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 15:48:46 +0100

Michael <michipili <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Andreas Schwab wrote:
>> Michael Grünewald <michipili <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>> The command `describe-input-method` displays the following information:
>>>
>>>     key     character(s)  [type a key (sequence) and select one from the
>>> list]
>>>     -------- ------------
>>>     \"A     Ӓ Ǟ Ä
>> Type the digit as shown in the minibuffer.
s/minibuffer/echo area/

What happens if you enable the latin-prefix input method and type /o?

Andreas.

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Message #23 received at 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: michipili <at> gmail.com, 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:10:12 +0200

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 21:03:32 -0400
> Cc: 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > The command `describe-input-method` displays the following information:
> >     key     character(s)  [type a key (sequence) and select one from the list]
> >     -------- ------------
> >     \"A     Ӓ Ǟ Ä
> 
> The TeX input method doesn't have such a thing either.
> For \"A it just has:
> 
> \"A Ä    \Phi  Φ    \c{l} ļ    \=\'{o}  ṓ    ^\turned m               ᵚ

I think this was fixed in Emacs 24.4 (the OP uses 24.3, where indeed I
see what he reports).

Message #26 received at 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael <michipili <at> gmail.com>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 19:01:13 +0100

Andreas Schwab wrote:
> What happens if you enable the latin-prefix input method and type /o?
If I do so, the echo area displays

/o (1/1) 1.ø 2.œ

I am then able to pick any of the completion by using the corresponding
digit.

Message #29 received at 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael <michipili <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 18922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 19:02:29 +0100

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I think this was fixed in Emacs 24.4 (the OP uses 24.3, where indeed I
> see what he reports). 
This is a good news! Can anybody confirm this?

Message #34 received at 18922-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Michael <michipili <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>,
 18922-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18922: 24.3; Not clear how to use TeX input method
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:45:44 +0200

Michael <michipili <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> I think this was fixed in Emacs 24.4 (the OP uses 24.3, where indeed I
>> see what he reports).
> This is a good news! Can anybody confirm this?

I can confirm that the following:

0. emacs -Q
1. M-x set-input-mode RET TeX RET
2. \"u

Leads to an ü character getting inserted.  So it seems like this has
indeed been fixed, and I'm therefore closing this bug report.  If
you're still seeing this on a recent version of Emacs, please reopen
this bug report.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

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