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Subject: Re: bug#19392: Emacs searches for dabbrevs in archive buffers
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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
> Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Perhaps `hexl-mode' as well?
>
> Possibly -- does it load the binary data into a buffer?
It is just unlikely to produce anything useful. Here's what the start
of a PNG file might look like, for example:
00000000: 8950 4e47 0d0a 1a0a 0000 000d 4948 4452 .PNG........IHDR
00000010: 0000 0a00 0000 05a0 0802 0000 001d 628d ..............b.
00000020: 8800 0000 0373 4249 5408 0808 dbe1 4fe0 .....sBIT.....O.
00000030: 0000 2000 4944 4154 785e ecdd 0760 14d5 .. .IDATx^...`..
00000040: bec7 f1f4 4aef 5d40 a4ab 0822 0a8a 7410 ....J.]@..."..t.
00000050: c586 ca55 5111 bc56 042b 0f15 7bbd 8280 ...UQ..V.+..{...
>> You could throw in `tetris-mode' and the other ones in play/, I guess.
>
> I don't think those have binary data (that may accidentally look like an
> abbreviation).
Right, it is another case of a buffer that will just contain nothing
useful for completion purposes. But perhaps it doesn't contain anything
harmful either.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: > Perhaps `hexl-mode' as well? Possibly -- does it load the binary data into a buffer? 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Possibly -- does it load the binary data into a buffer? > You could throw in `tetris-mode' and the other ones in play/, I guess. I don't think those have binary data (that may accidentally look like an abbreviation). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#19392; Package emacs.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: > Shouldn't we rather have a defcustom to ignore certain major modes? > The name could be `dabbrev-ignored-major-modes'. Are there a lot of these modes? I'm just wondering whether this would make things easier (in practice) or not. So (off the top of my head), this would be archive-mode, tar-mode, image-mode... 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Are there a lot of these modes? I'm just wondering whether this would make things easier (in practice) or not. So (off the top of my head), this would be archive-mode, tar-mode, image-mode... Uhm... perhaps those are the major ones? Then it does sound like a simpler way to customise this, because there's a lot of archive/image file names you'd have to match. So I think adding `dabbrev-ignored-major-modes' sounds like a good idea. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#19392; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#19392; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 19392) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2021 06:53:44 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 23 02:53:44 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1meAuW-0001Wl-G6 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:53:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1meAuU-0001WY-Op for 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:53:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53008) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1meAuJ-0006zN-2D; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:53:37 -0400 Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3686 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1meAuI-00014D-BS; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:53:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 09:53:18 +0300 Message-Id: <83v91o5j1d.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmkXksZtVaLjv5iW5rbXyJMh04AAM_HJ2j4Z8QiavTi-aQ@HIDDEN> (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 22 Oct 2021 19:43:18 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#19392: Emacs searches for dabbrevs in archive buffers References: <CAG7BpapDrjvEOL036QimXxfOAhakUZV2tqUZZa=6C4JLGSid5Q@HIDDEN> <871r82qe5v.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapzDOVU-j9u5sWd7wfdisaYBY+0bDnu+nV+hSmPthYoNg@HIDDEN> <878s2aowlm.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapQ1YY6mpuf3p4zF0wP98_UwbsNTmMy7Gnw7H2h3BAddQ@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapbGCv6sxZooKCQ9CrNQTnP+BE1y06kifaGGB6y60ojLA@HIDDEN> <83czrl83ra.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r1g0dg22.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sg0g7q68.fsf@HIDDEN> <875yxcrxy8.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmkXksZtVaLjv5iW5rbXyJMh04AAM_HJ2j4Z8QiavTi-aQ@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, pogonyshev@HIDDEN, 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 19:43:18 -0400 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, pogonyshev@HIDDEN, 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > >>> We do have all of that, but I think that it would be reasonable (by > >>> default) for `dabbrev--select-buffers' to ignore these "binary" > >>> buffers. Because the data there is mostly noise. > >> > >> If you want to do that, why not just add the appropriate regexp(s) to > >> dabbrev-ignored-buffer-regexps? > > > > It's a user option, so we shouldn't add things to it dynamically, but we > > could add a default that excludes these files. The problem is, though, > > that that would be a very complex regexp matching everything that > > arc/tar/image modes covers, which is quite a lot. > > > > The user option thing also goes for `dabbrev-ignored-buffer-names'. > > Shouldn't we rather have a defcustom to ignore certain major modes? > The name could be `dabbrev-ignored-major-modes'. I don't necessarily object, but don't the existing defcustom's already cover that, via buffer names? We shouldn't over-engineer this, I think.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> We do have all of that, but I think that it would be reasonable (by >> default) for `dabbrev--select-buffers' to ignore these "binary" >> buffers. Because the data there is mostly noise. > > If you [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: pogonyshev@HIDDEN, 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> We do have all of that, but I think that it would be reasonable (by >> default) for `dabbrev--select-buffers' to ignore these "binary" >> buffers. Because the data there is mostly noise. > > If you want to do that, why not just add the appropriate regexp(s) to > dabbrev-ignored-buffer-regexps? It's a user option, so we shouldn't add things to it dynamically, but we could add a default that excludes these files. The problem is, though, that that would be a very complex regexp matching everything that arc/tar/image modes covers, which is quite a lot. The user option thing also goes for `dabbrev-ignored-buffer-names'. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 19392) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2021 17:37:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 14 13:37:14 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45866 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1m3ios-0006zs-2q for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:37:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m3ioq-0006zc-6y for 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:37:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48650) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m3iok-0005FT-KP; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:37:06 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3852 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m3ioj-0004Mi-Jw; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:37:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 20:37:03 +0300 Message-Id: <83sg0g7q68.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87r1g0dg22.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:19:01 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#19392: Emacs searches for dabbrevs in archive buffers References: <CAG7BpapDrjvEOL036QimXxfOAhakUZV2tqUZZa=6C4JLGSid5Q@HIDDEN> <871r82qe5v.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapzDOVU-j9u5sWd7wfdisaYBY+0bDnu+nV+hSmPthYoNg@HIDDEN> <878s2aowlm.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapQ1YY6mpuf3p4zF0wP98_UwbsNTmMy7Gnw7H2h3BAddQ@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapbGCv6sxZooKCQ9CrNQTnP+BE1y06kifaGGB6y60ojLA@HIDDEN> <83czrl83ra.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r1g0dg22.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: pogonyshev@HIDDEN, 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> > Cc: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN>, 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:19:01 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Note that Emacs only searches other buffers if it cannot find matches > > in the current one, or exhausts the ones from the current buffer. And > > we already support dabbrev-select-buffers-function, > > dabbrev-ignored-buffer-names, and dabbrev-ignored-buffer-regexps, > > which could fine-tune which other buffers are searched. > > We do have all of that, but I think that it would be reasonable (by > default) for `dabbrev--select-buffers' to ignore these "binary" > buffers. Because the data there is mostly noise. If you want to do that, why not just add the appropriate regexp(s) to dabbrev-ignored-buffer-regexps?
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Note that Emacs only searches other buffers if it cannot find matches > in the current one, or exhausts the ones from the current buffer. And > we already support dabbrev-select-buffers-function, > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN>, 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Note that Emacs only searches other buffers if it cannot find matches > in the current one, or exhausts the ones from the current buffer. And > we already support dabbrev-select-buffers-function, > dabbrev-ignored-buffer-names, and dabbrev-ignored-buffer-regexps, > which could fine-tune which other buffers are searched. We do have all of that, but I think that it would be reasonable (by default) for `dabbrev--select-buffers' to ignore these "binary" buffers. Because the data there is mostly noise. I think that could be easily implemented by allowing modes to set a buffer-local variable like `dabbrev-ignore-buffer'. I can see arc/tar mode doing that, and perhaps image-mode, too? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#19392; Package emacs.
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Marshall's _Rocksteady Got Soul_: "I Need Your Loving" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:15:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <CAG7BpapQ1YY6mpuf3p4zF0wP98_UwbsNTmMy7Gnw7H2h3BAddQ@HIDDEN> (Paul Pogonyshev's message of "Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:12:27 +0200") Message-ID: <87v95cdg75.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> writes: > $ emacs -Q random.zip > > 1. Switch to buffer "*scratch*" > 2. Type "P" (without quotes) > 3. Press M-/ > 4. Here it finds expansion "PK" from buffer "random.zip". Cycling > with M-/ finds a few mor [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> writes: > $ emacs -Q random.zip > > 1. Switch to buffer "*scratch*" > 2. Type "P" (without quotes) > 3. Press M-/ > 4. Here it finds expansion "PK" from buffer "random.zip". Cycling > with M-/ finds a few more, which are more binary-like. Thanks; with that recipe I can reproduce the behaviour. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#19392; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 19392) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2021 12:43:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 14 08:43:48 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43293 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1m3eEu-0005x4-KJ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 08:43:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47904) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m3eEt-0005wo-4R for 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 08:43:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38216) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m3eEn-0005Nt-FZ; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 08:43:41 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1570 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m3eEn-0004ln-2G; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 08:43:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:43:37 +0300 Message-Id: <83czrl83ra.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAG7BpapbGCv6sxZooKCQ9CrNQTnP+BE1y06kifaGGB6y60ojLA@HIDDEN> (message from Paul Pogonyshev on Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:16:44 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#19392: Emacs searches for dabbrevs in archive buffers References: <CAG7BpapDrjvEOL036QimXxfOAhakUZV2tqUZZa=6C4JLGSid5Q@HIDDEN> <871r82qe5v.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapzDOVU-j9u5sWd7wfdisaYBY+0bDnu+nV+hSmPthYoNg@HIDDEN> <878s2aowlm.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapQ1YY6mpuf3p4zF0wP98_UwbsNTmMy7Gnw7H2h3BAddQ@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapbGCv6sxZooKCQ9CrNQTnP+BE1y06kifaGGB6y60ojLA@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:16:44 +0200 > Cc: 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Zipping binary data was not a good idea, but at least string "PK" doesn't come from the archived > "random.bin". You can create another test `.zip' file by archiving a text file, to be sure. FWIW, I don't see a bug here. Why should we assume that "binary" buffers could never have anything useful for M-/ ? Note that Emacs only searches other buffers if it cannot find matches in the current one, or exhausts the ones from the current buffer. And we already support dabbrev-select-buffers-function, dabbrev-ignored-buffer-names, and dabbrev-ignored-buffer-regexps, which could fine-tune which other buffers are searched. So it sounds like users who want to control which other buffers are searched have more than enough knobs to have whatever behavior they want.
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You can create another test `.zip' file by archiving a text file, to be sure. Paul On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 23:12, Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> wrote: > $ emacs -Q random.zip > > 1. Switch to buffer "*scratch*" > 2. Type "P" (without quotes) > 3. Press M-/ > 4. Here it finds expansion "PK" from buffer "random.zip". Cycling > with M-/ finds a few more, which are more binary-like. > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 21:14, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote: > >> Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> writes: >> >> > Apparently not from tarballs anymore, but still e.g. from a `.zip' >> > archive. Though I have Emacs 27.1 here, not 28. >> >> I tried visiting a zip file here now (in Emacs 27.1), but I was unable >> to make dabbrev-expand expand to any of the strings in the raw zip file. >> >> Do you have a recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce the bug? >> (Including a test zip file, I guess.) >> >> -- >> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) >> bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no >> > --000000000000e2f06605c707c1af Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Zipping binary data was not a good idea, but at least stri= ng "PK" doesn't come from the archived "random.bin"= . You can create another test `.zip' file by archiving a text file, to = be sure.<div><br></div><div>Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 23:12, Paul Po= gonyshev <<a href=3D"mailto:pogonyshev@HIDDEN">pogonyshev@HIDDEN</= a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p= x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d= iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family:monospace"><span= style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">$ emacs -Q random.zip</span><br></span><div><sp= an style=3D"font-family:monospace"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></s= pan></span></div><div>1. Switch to buffer "*scratch*"<br>2. Type = "P" (without quotes)<br>3. Press M-/<br>4. Here it finds expansio= n "PK" from buffer "random.zip".=C2=A0 Cycling<br>=C2= =A0 =C2=A0with M-/ finds a few more, which are more binary-like.<br></div><= /div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O= n Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 21:14, Lars Ingebrigtsen <<a href=3D"mailto:larsi@= gnus.org" target=3D"_blank">larsi@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockqu= ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px= solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Paul Pogonyshev <<a href=3D"ma= ilto:pogonyshev@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pogonyshev@HIDDEN</a>> w= rites:<br> <br> > Apparently not from tarballs anymore, but still e.g. from a `.zip'= <br> > archive. Though I have Emacs 27.1 here, not 28.<br> <br> I tried visiting a zip file here now (in Emacs 27.1), but I was unable<br> to make dabbrev-expand expand to any of the strings in the raw zip file.<br= > <br> Do you have a recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce the = bug?<br> (Including a test zip file, I guess.)<br> <br> -- <br> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0bloggy blog: <a href=3D"http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no" rel=3D"no= referrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no</a><br> </blockquote></div></div> </blockquote></div> --000000000000e2f06605c707c1af--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#19392; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 19392) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2021 21:12:47 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 13 17:12:47 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42210 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1m3Phv-00013y-3F for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:12:47 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f53.google.com ([209.85.208.53]:40837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <pogonyshev@HIDDEN>) id 1m3Phs-00013j-9q for 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:12:45 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f53.google.com with SMTP id t3so81212edc.7 for <19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:12:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=H3OqLgnp8G+bs5lWLSqj/XBOuaMm88U1f4PHUsY/MR8=; b=r3IHof1Je/kwiCVSeAtYJ+Iu/K52BDXrwPcehlAxyqZEo2Bd120VNprJpZyG9WNHqk 72dcn16glJHx9QNrlVMS/aim0MlWTqMvVJfP05fTlytwS6pMWADpj+tIvFCk8Vph5B0g QEM7XJcDEKUQadytJO3zFGYWTRFzBrh34ehVgSKnXTC4OaZfyj7JIwvrGYNlp8DNjyme oK5v0BrFEE+nolDt3wD80Zppyd9RANphCJtcOCzCDTvI1ODOLkxIAAHXhmJ9APCuvV+I 7dlgXjONP6eg8M2ou9errHEVep+RpIjA1JazYGnX51iyUXw6ThbMWqYXnasKLUK3Jyyr HJeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=H3OqLgnp8G+bs5lWLSqj/XBOuaMm88U1f4PHUsY/MR8=; b=ZRHmUILb9xpGIyNePRZp2I+mO+4QZQthHa8JifJxklYt1xSprCeBDCc6hy6ZSbC/pJ GFr9TOpbdbSIrAFTBnI5ZB8NXMCT64wGnHNxUlB/sPVDw1ALCJfAbQ36OZhpg4ObG+rz USI1fSZ9FQP88tWJz00rVaW4jrHxcuVJPbUeWj8zbgQfQYpj/G1F8Tm5NTFjG0GPNBin SMtKV6mkkORtzQ06KAUZEPNcioIDD85WRiRBtin3XM3lNHdA+gJ71DNP0m7pg7+ubVgf izq4rzSQNwKJK0UrS1/tgyWY1E0o+YXEF77CoGy8W8EtkWL64lgAVNn6+WMBtev2Y1Iu rYEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531MKKRTnifgJ4CPK02S/NsBHaTZ79OEugqACbwpCaXgC49vqW09 FyFP49DRW97wUgRXjGlPSMJXG1PIYyfkQzRrJA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxdLb4bJppRvB3IPou3FjlQTLtGiR0fHMGCycakHVs0K7Qa8aiTasMWtIyowql/12JW2hhDisrTTKhK9gSswaY= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:cb03:: with SMTP id s3mr8376560edt.189.1626210758475; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:12:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAG7BpapDrjvEOL036QimXxfOAhakUZV2tqUZZa=6C4JLGSid5Q@HIDDEN> <871r82qe5v.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAG7BpapzDOVU-j9u5sWd7wfdisaYBY+0bDnu+nV+hSmPthYoNg@HIDDEN> <878s2aowlm.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <878s2aowlm.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:12:27 +0200 Message-ID: <CAG7BpapQ1YY6mpuf3p4zF0wP98_UwbsNTmMy7Gnw7H2h3BAddQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#19392: Emacs searches for dabbrevs in archive buffers To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="00000000000096fb1a05c707b215" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000096fb1a05c707b215 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000096fb1705c707b213" --00000000000096fb1705c707b213 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" $ emacs -Q random.zip 1. Switch to buffer "*scratch*" 2. Type "P" (without quotes) 3. Press M-/ 4. Here it finds expansion "PK" from buffer "random.zip". Cycling with M-/ finds a few more, which are more binary-like. On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 21:14, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote: > Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Apparently not from tarballs anymore, but still e.g. from a `.zip' > > archive. Though I have Emacs 27.1 here, not 28. > > I tried visiting a zip file here now (in Emacs 27.1), but I was unable > to make dabbrev-expand expand to any of the strings in the raw zip file. > > Do you have a recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce the bug? > (Including a test zip file, I guess.) > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > --00000000000096fb1705c707b213 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family:monospace"><sp= an style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">$ emacs -Q random.zip</span><br></span><div><= span style=3D"font-family:monospace"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br><= /span></span></div><div>1. Switch to buffer "*scratch*"<br>2. Typ= e "P" (without quotes)<br>3. Press M-/<br>4. Here it finds expans= ion "PK" from buffer "random.zip".=C2=A0 Cycling<br>=C2= =A0 =C2=A0with M-/ finds a few more, which are more binary-like.<br></div><= /div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O= n Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 21:14, Lars Ingebrigtsen <<a href=3D"mailto:larsi@= gnus.org" target=3D"_blank">larsi@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockqu= ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px= solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Paul Pogonyshev <<a href=3D"ma= ilto:pogonyshev@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pogonyshev@HIDDEN</a>> w= rites:<br> <br> > Apparently not from tarballs anymore, but still e.g. from a `.zip'= <br> > archive. Though I have Emacs 27.1 here, not 28.<br> <br> I tried visiting a zip file here now (in Emacs 27.1), but I was unable<br> to make dabbrev-expand expand to any of the strings in the raw zip file.<br= > <br> Do you have a recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce the = bug?<br> (Including a test zip file, I guess.)<br> <br> -- <br> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0bloggy blog: <a href=3D"http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no" rel=3D"no= referrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no</a><br> </blockquote></div></div> --00000000000096fb1705c707b213-- --00000000000096fb1a05c707b215 Content-Type: application/zip; name="random.zip" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="random.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <f_kr2js78f0> X-Attachment-Id: f_kr2js78f0 UEsDBAoAAAAAAMy47VL+2WUU6AMAAOgDAAAKABwAcmFuZG9tLmJpblVUCQADUADuYFUA7mB1eAsA AQToAwAABOgDAAD1jQ0U5kOAl9Zqug+seCM7GzazObmvmnE+YvFw9ts7T3libXGuSKa56+FYW72L KYkQm2UnM4K57ZjGnW3VGRMt4ztMc/X24gPnQIr6cgUgifB4WLSxBhjokTLlVXb06rrDBMiQ2Hoo Ypl2Vv/VkcC7WLO+yUkHMjyeNejBr/aXWTHAUwDD/W8nuRYeSMKOK1bQnmNBcAVGCo/GeMf3yqtl c/qsQV3zuaD2xg5SNPfD8H7wlL7cs6n0YHeMtl7LdylcaQ2LpVxMetifmlUci8vqAYVLY1SF+IOx Z5Ewj6k9BYJAwAoamw09yPTph2bH1vAceDsxMJ+V3AcD5VN0ppa298eQe8wG2C08L27q3h2DYkFD ShH6kipBjSESq5PMyzwqPvYpsNYpMAllUx9Q09UtyWVjpmMbw9baFgBocfdFY99llWtrCvqnLGnk 7VMcB53Ynp3jXwy/5VXhyhnMeb3p81VVx5x7DQt0j6oTRB1xPndNmFKK4hbpZZ9Rq6/WD6zWz4Vh Hipmh9CiCxIhZX9c/1VAjHtVIpzCveKryFCqLZ5RqkjIGgZF2HLqwHjrMhmuCu7zE7+6AUMjVSj5 cMrwnjwtfyTwXN0Qiq+Dr+LVDjb1AIUoFw2ay05DFte3ekIPpMWBp32Rssa8wzdiRikKKFjfHxX+ 6BCG5+8eaAKZtHjlQr7XIs5UU/Kr7z5QgZ/FQ8MOiSHkgdoZ+1t8KwzCBp7jfM7qdCL+5dhXGtlJ BwJ5jXlHW3xfgSzBD2HOW5bU3tv/lCJiJC0sTkDMNfpYKvHRlJLfmTzpPXmiW8BAsjT4jTxx3Kpa 0Ts8x6nD7/1DXbR1IaHbO3JDFCBGZ8DI/xPewD2w3pSpIj41lQxurqA+mp9Rp4stY1csVy5d7sLV WZJvwbQb91DtBxqFLAFwK+KdtaXs1UB2tbko3rRjX0jZrmUZKEbuJyGiqHok4Bm1A9HskYUA+2j0 5YWGKcLxvYMnSDHMcZalj4dTAoLT+ag6Srp60Aef2GnPTVE6pR2KbN3HD1VBUzakFBWbwI9krZpC G9xu1w10fq+efxt8JWCpHR0llPavH1xr51JSUaGqCYo7X828eH051OgBdlGAq5f8Z/eV1+COHn41 i2PE6LwgfD6NEUuQ6Es2gsYwU8qPoXfEuv+7IZJ9sIax41eu7AAxqMwmiThz85CyN7AOzNThwAIy 7KvRaff0P1fzuD9TFVr2Zrs81vSZZY+Uw1VrqWBDdjOhh1dv4GdpwXepzTQvEjo8YF9H4FnDb7Kk 8t2T0jbSDF8Mp7s+4f7otWU5vNaPTpVHzzB1bSxoB20raDhdCj1SfPnvUEsBAh4DCgAAAAAAzLjt Uv7ZZRToAwAA6AMAAAoAGAAAAAAAAAAAAKSBAAAAAHJhbmRvbS5iaW5VVAUAA1AA7mB1eAsAAQTo AwAABOgDAABQSwUGAAAAAAEAAQBQAAAALAQAAAAA --00000000000096fb1a05c707b215--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#19392; Package emacs.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> writes: > Apparently not from tarballs anymore, but still e.g. from a `.zip' > archive. Though I have Emacs 27.1 here, not 28. I tried visiting a zip file here now (in Emacs 27.1), but I was unable to make dabbrev-expand expand to any of the strings in the raw zip file. 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Though I have Emacs 27.1 here, not 28. I tried visiting a zip file here now (in Emacs 27.1), but I was unable to make dabbrev-expand expand to any of the strings in the raw zip file. Do you have a recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce the bug? (Including a test zip file, I guess.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#19392; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 19392) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2021 18:25:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 13 14:25:21 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1m3N5p-0000iq-Qd for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:25:21 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-f49.google.com ([209.85.218.49]:38745) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <pogonyshev@HIDDEN>) id 1m3N5o-0000iY-99 for 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:25:16 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-f49.google.com with SMTP id gb6so43193401ejc.5 for <19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:25:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NbntctXIG50Oi9Tz2nRrQTKsKqULrnoeSoHZn9JgSs8=; b=aIloRYGGqwNn6IPsIHJRljhUQOl6H/OsEwrQ8vC7VSOnpw7a9siBAKY8aLMsNFTid6 jWA38HCSUmxXh7QqpevlD/mdp2RxQlUSUl95b4vhS2i7TeqEM+Sbrv4GouivXgRKhRRH sstQlkwT+mWPuViQu6nK+B5fqTiW/APie/rbxJYebVZ15LyjoXoGy0cjy8rUC+oB0AP4 oa7fvepYE8qZTbKapWw507LxOC1mUu1F6GoplQooH1SFVG9iA3WbMJPiYiwGVyq65aAS q/U4VGQKm+AFL1Gp2OA6Lq5l4CVRA0YTVhKdu/K5j079AYleJUTy/LljMEbmze9+EDu9 d99Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NbntctXIG50Oi9Tz2nRrQTKsKqULrnoeSoHZn9JgSs8=; b=rxhEuFNRPty9eyMB6yJ+CA/rGaabfJaAzEUaIxkY0L8KVftc7sU/bfEuhIMkVwVnZ1 CXMs+oD4sKH6xjvWWQS0x11PepUWNqBzI2iQRKKOZWMZ9dPEbActeQ5bg/vVrVvxDE7n 3PkA+1QhQcwebHh1RgOHJtV0DIE1PyMNbKOF1kUBlhPCCxq15jRP8IbWSMcystOdD1x6 gN8q6pJknUyxGot8qk8L6xYI+8AYDcMP27ftINfvR62TXv6Ioq9udXVziw0vYXtqDluW tz6BpqRhToEJ5KuIiMIyFL1FcrncUY2a+3yCvN4zEMzjWxJByVWEVkbOLwR3wMj5MraX DKLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531tu1DHJ4hliu9hs63fRKPDXKB5UlweWxVMMFHxETl4UeWBnKsj y2v9fgTz64InTavwn0YMQ2H0o62e7KVNbjwBKw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwTpOM/UnXBi7XTpzl60R3Q884LFVsspqCw4rHvpKDtK9qIrLqPA4CrHprYYcp6fe2sOPCBJtR7xNzMkJaN+Ko= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:5fc1:: with SMTP id k1mr7166884ejv.360.1626200710177; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:25:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAG7BpapDrjvEOL036QimXxfOAhakUZV2tqUZZa=6C4JLGSid5Q@HIDDEN> <871r82qe5v.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <871r82qe5v.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 20:24:59 +0200 Message-ID: <CAG7BpapzDOVU-j9u5sWd7wfdisaYBY+0bDnu+nV+hSmPthYoNg@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#19392: Emacs searches for dabbrevs in archive buffers To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ab1bb005c7055b0f" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000ab1bb005c7055b0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Apparently not from tarballs anymore, but still e.g. from a `.zip' archive. Though I have Emacs 27.1 here, not 28. Paul On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 20:09, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote: > Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> writes: > > > * In a freshly started Emacs, open an archive, e.g. a .tar.gz file in a > buffer. > > * Switch to another buffer, type a couple of letters and then start > pressing 'M-/' > > (dabbrev-expand). > > * It is very likely you will hit a "very useful" dabbrev in binary form > taken from > > the archive. E.g. I opened a large tarball, then switched to *scratch*, > typed "tz", > > and the very first dabbrev I got was "tz\327r". > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got little response > at > the time.) > > I tried reproducing this in Emacs 28, and I don't get any of these > binary expansions. Are you still seeing this in more recent Emacs > versions? > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > --000000000000ab1bb005c7055b0f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Apparently not from tarballs anymore, but still e.g. from = a `.zip' archive. Though I have Emacs 27.1 here, not 28.<div><br></div>= <div>Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class= =3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 20:09, Lars Ingebrigtsen <<a href= =3D"mailto:larsi@HIDDEN">larsi@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquo= te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px = solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Paul Pogonyshev <<a href=3D"mai= lto:pogonyshev@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pogonyshev@HIDDEN</a>> wr= ites:<br> <br> > * In a freshly started Emacs, open an archive, e.g. a .tar.gz file in = a buffer.<br> > * Switch to another buffer, type a couple of letters and then start pr= essing 'M-/'<br> > (dabbrev-expand).<br> > * It is very likely you will hit a "very useful" dabbrev in = binary form taken from<br> > the archive. E.g. I opened a large tarball, then switched to *scratch*= , typed "tz",<br> > and the very first dabbrev I got was "tz\327r".<br> <br> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got little respon= se at<br> the time.)<br> <br> I tried reproducing this in Emacs 28, and I don't get any of these<br> binary expansions.=C2=A0 Are you still seeing this in more recent Emacs<br> versions?<br> <br> -- <br> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0bloggy blog: <a href=3D"http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no" rel=3D"no= referrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no</a><br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000ab1bb005c7055b0f--
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Full text available.Received: (at 19392) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2014 16:19:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 16 11:19:11 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48027 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Y0uq6-000568-HQ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:19:10 -0500 Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com ([209.85.223.173]:58826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <pogonyshev@HIDDEN>) id 1Y0uq3-00055y-Uw for 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:19:08 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id y20so13170712ier.18 for <19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:19:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KyztjqMdKctodnr4hAwllJ8eS8kIqjgOG0qz99jW8IA=; b=gr0A44MsSBPTko8Nj3oIWrwtofK4JYsHty603mpOSpMXoXhX30xQLCUlNWXUfOKm5A bye3odDbjgyGgtUGB6joDCbTr4RlNtAV+yXmY5gpESDSNTxjSjj87E5+zz3o142j4nRx qJE4LM8fmqV1ZYNSb0kv89MTLBhmkS3Zeh6xYipjhEcLr6677OpfhC/UywIJDiqp8zFV 9uW4YBMFYRlEO2BQSezQP8mKlpnpsr/SDFUqwzWlf9TosLe8cvCl+a7OmVIvUY5fNiza sA2n14xzfY36SyzJS/4BUg4GHcjHP/zaIVHa2CBmQQaN5Y5dxOexmoP6W528U1Nw20gV qzxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.128.138 with SMTP id k10mr35323648ioi.69.1418746747068; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.125.2 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:19:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83ppbjwqma.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CAG7BpapDrjvEOL036QimXxfOAhakUZV2tqUZZa=6C4JLGSid5Q@HIDDEN> <83ppbjwqma.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:19:06 +0100 Message-ID: <CAG7BpappLoDTc84u3venwtzTdqFDVJSc=nFPecSQct+2oX93Dg@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#19392: Emacs searches for dabbrevs in archive buffers From: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fbcc4e2a8fb050a57b7fe X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a113fbcc4e2a8fb050a57b7fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What is the definition of "archive" for this purpose? I would say any buffer that has certain major mode, e.g. 'archive-mode' or 'tar-mode'. > Also, when you visit a .tar.gz file, isn't most of the buffer readable > text (because Emacs automatically decompresses the archive)?=E2=80=8B Yes, it appears readable, but dabbrev still comes with various "useful" binary data. Perhaps another approach would be to not search for abbrevs in hidden text, but I don't know how that is implemented internally and if it would be easy enough. Paul --001a113fbcc4e2a8fb050a57b7fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>> What is the definition of "archive" fo= r this purpose?<br><br></div>I would say any buffer that has certain major = mode, e.g. 'archive-mode' or 'tar-mode'.<br><div> <br>> Also, when you visit a .tar.gz file, isn't most of the buffer = readable<br>> text (because Emacs automatically decompresses the archive= )?=E2=80=8B<br><br></div><div>Yes, it appears readable, but dabbrev still c= omes with various "useful" binary data. Perhaps another approach = would be to not search for abbrevs in hidden text, but I don't know how= that is implemented internally and if it would be easy enough.<br><br></di= v><div>Paul<br></div></div> --001a113fbcc4e2a8fb050a57b7fe--
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Full text available.Received: (at 19392) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2014 15:39:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 16 10:39:56 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48005 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Y0uE8-00049J-2l for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:39:56 -0500 Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:54595) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1Y0uE4-000497-Um for 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:39:53 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NGO00900LQJKI00@HIDDEN> for 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:35:50 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NGO00PT0LZQ6G90@HIDDEN>; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:35:50 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:39:41 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#19392: Emacs searches for dabbrevs in archive buffers In-reply-to: <CAG7BpapDrjvEOL036QimXxfOAhakUZV2tqUZZa=6C4JLGSid5Q@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> Message-id: <83ppbjwqma.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CAG7BpapDrjvEOL036QimXxfOAhakUZV2tqUZZa=6C4JLGSid5Q@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19392 Cc: 19392 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:32:13 +0100 > From: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN> > > * In a freshly started Emacs, open an archive, e.g. a .tar.gz file in a buffer. > * Switch to another buffer, type a couple of letters and then start pressing > 'M-/' (dabbrev-expand). > * It is very likely you will hit a "very useful" dabbrev in binary form taken > from the archive. E.g. I opened a large tarball, then switched to *scratch*, > typed "tz", and the very first dabbrev I got was "tz\327r". > > Request: Emacs should ignore archive and other binary buffers when generating > dabbrevs. What is the definition of "archive" for this purpose? Also, when you visit a .tar.gz file, isn't most of the buffer readable text (because Emacs automatically decompresses the archive)?
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --001a113fbcc4b3506b050a5208af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reproducible with 'emacs -q': * In a freshly started Emacs, open an archive, e.g. a .tar.gz file in a buffer. * Switch to another buffer, type a couple of letters and then start pressing 'M-/' (dabbrev-expand). * It is very likely you will hit a "very useful" dabbrev in binary form taken from the archive. E.g. I opened a large tarball, then switched to *scratch*, typed "tz", and the very first dabbrev I got was "tz\327r". Request: Emacs should ignore archive and other binary buffers when generating dabbrevs. There are some settings to ignore buffers by name, but this would rather ignore buffers by mode. Also, this should be the default because I cannot imagine binary dabbrevs being useful to more than maybe 0.01% of users. Reproduced on a recent Emacs trunk. Paul --001a113fbcc4b3506b050a5208af Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Reproducible with 'emacs -q':<br></= div><div><br>* In a freshly started Emacs, open an archive, e.g. a .tar.gz = file in a buffer.<br></div>* Switch to another buffer, type a couple of let= ters and then start pressing 'M-/' (dabbrev-expand).<br></div>* It = is very likely you will hit a "very useful" dabbrev in binary for= m taken from the archive. E.g. I opened a large tarball, then switched to *= scratch*, typed "tz", and the very first dabbrev I got was "= tz\327r".<br><br></div>Request: Emacs should ignore archive and other = binary buffers when generating dabbrevs. There are some settings to ignore = buffers by name, but this would rather ignore buffers by mode. Also, this = should be the default because I cannot imagine binary dabbrevs being useful= to more than maybe 0.01% of users.<br><div><div><div><div><div><br>Reprodu= ced on a recent Emacs trunk.<br><br></div><div>Paul<br></div></div></div></= div></div></div> --001a113fbcc4b3506b050a5208af--
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