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Subject: bug#19543: 24.4; vc-mode: 'Fileset is up-to-date' even when vc-diff showed differences
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Open a file under version control (I used an svn working copy).
Do not make any changes to the file in Emacs, so that the modification
flag remains unset.  But change the file contents outside Emacs,
for example

    M-! echo hello >>foo

Now do C-x v =3D to show differences.  There are some changes to check in.=

Yet when using C-x v v, Emacs reports 'Fileset is up-to-date',
despite the fact that a moment ago vc-diff showed it wasn't.

I understand that Emacs cannot constantly keep track of times when an
edited file might have been changed by some other program.  And that on
trying to edit the buffer, it will warn 'foo changed on disk...'.
However, for me at least, it is quite a common operation to change a
file somehow and then use an existing Emacs buffer to view the
differences and check it in.  Hence it is frustrating that
vc-next-action does nothing.

If the last vc-diff operation on a file showed changes, then
vc-next-action should revert the buffer contents to what is currently on
disk.  This could even=20be done without a warning if the modification
flag on the buffer is currently unset and the buffer was under version
control when loaded.  Then a further vc-next-action should commit.



In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.9)
 of 2014-11-03 on wcl-linux04.wcl.local
Configured using:
 `configure --build=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
 --host=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix=3D
 --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=3D/usr --exec-prefix=3D/usr
 --bindir=3D/usr/bin --sbindir=3D/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=3D/etc
 --datadir=3D/usr/share --includedir=3D/usr/include --libdir=3D/usr/lib64
 --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec --localstatedir=3D/var
 --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --mandir=3D/usr/share/man
 --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png=

 --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3
 --with-gpm=3Dno build_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
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 -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 -fexceptions
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 -grecord-gcc-switches -m64 -mtune=3Dgeneric' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-z,relro ''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LC_CTYPE: en_GB.UTF-8
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: en_GB.UTF-8
  value of $LC_MONETARY: en_GB.UTF-8
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_GB.UTF-8
  value of $LC_TIME: en_GB.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Diff

Minor modes in effect:
  diff-auto-refine-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p=20
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p=20
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p=20
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p=20
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-w C-x C-s ESC < C-x k RET C-x=20
C-g q C-x v u y e s RET ESC ! p a t c h SPC b u TAB=20
SPC < d RET ESC ! v p SPC b u DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL=20
DEL c p SPC b u TAB SPC ~ / w i TAB s c TAB RET C-x=20
v =3D C-x o C-s i n t e r e s t r a t e 1 m o f f C-s=20
C-s C-s C-s C-s C-a ESC > C-r C-r C-r C-r C-r C-r C-r=20
C-a C-x v =3D ESC [ 6 ~ ESC [ 5 ~ C-x v v C-g C-x v =3D=20
C-x v v C-x o ESC x r e p o r t SPC e m a C-g C-g C-x=20
C-f DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL=20
DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL=20
DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL=20
DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL=20
DEL DEL j o b RET ESC ! e c h o SPC h e l l o SPC >=20
> j o b RET C-x v =3D C-x v v ESC x r e p o r t - e m=20
a c s - b u g SPC RET

Recent messages:
Mark saved where search started
Finding changes in /home/eda/svn_working/repos/wwwroot/WaniSystems/Configu=
ration/MarketSampler/jobs/build.trend.signals.xml...done
Fileset is up-to-date
Quit
Finding changes in /home/eda/svn_working/repos/wwwroot/WaniSystems/Configu=
ration/MarketSampler/jobs/build.trend.signals.xml...done
Fileset is up-to-date
Quit [2 times]
(Shell command succeeded with no output)
Finding changes in /home/eda/svn_working/repos/job...done
Fileset is up-to-date

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
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macros rect ispell network-stream starttls tls mail-extr etags
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custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process
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Memory information:
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On 01/09/2015 12:24 PM, Ed Avis wrote:

> Now do C-x v = to show differences.  There are some changes to check in.
> Yet when using C-x v v, Emacs reports 'Fileset is up-to-date',
> despite the fact that a moment ago vc-diff showed it wasn't.

You should try M-x global-auto-revert-mode.

> If the last vc-diff operation on a file showed changes, then
> vc-next-action should revert the buffer contents to what is currently on
> disk.

I guess vc-diff could update the status of the file (or files) if the 
current value is obviously wrong, but that still makes for brittle 
workflow: there's no guarantee that the user will case vc-diff before 
vc-next-action.

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On 05/16/2015 05:41 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote:

> I guess vc-diff could update the status of the file (or files) if the
> current value is obviously wrong, but that still makes for brittle
> workflow: there's no guarantee that the user will case vc-diff before
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> vc-next-action.

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On 05/16/2015 07:19 PM, Ed Avis wrote:
> Another way to make it consistent would be for vc-diff to work based on what is currently in the buffer, not what's on disk.

We could, but being consistent with out-of-date information is not that 
valuable.

> But I think a better way to solve it would be for vc-next-action to include a quick check of the file's status on disk.  So before it confidently says "Fileset is up-to-date", it can go and test if the file has changed, and if so go into the usual Emacs prompts about whether to reload the buffer from disk.

I don't know; with TRAMP, for example, process calls are at a premium, 
and this would unconditionally increase their number, especially when 
committing many files.

Further, vc-dir already expects the state information to be up-to-date 
(it has some related checks and logic depending on it).

Aside from using auto-revert-mode, inferring the necessity of refresh 
from vc-diff output might be the best solution.

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