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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-585989323-1426520787=:15940 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: >> >> I believe my only choice at this point is to forbid "make dist" if tar is >> detected to be old (less than 1.29), and keep doing --hard-dereference. I >> open to new ideas though. :-) > > The attached patch solves the problem in a more elegant manner IMHO, so I > plan to include this modified tar.m4 in my project. > > Review is welcome, and feel free to include to upstream automake. Please ignore the previous patch. The one attached here has prettier printing and also works with GNU tar versions that don't return 64 in case of unrecognized option. 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-1644843224-1426508965=:15940 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > > I believe my only choice at this point is to forbid "make dist" if tar is > detected to be old (less than 1.29), and keep doing --hard-dereference. I > open to new ideas though. :-) The attached patch solves the problem in a more elegant manner IMHO, so I plan to include this modified tar.m4 in my project. Review is welcome, and feel free to include to upstream automake. 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN>, eggert@HIDDEN, bug-automake@HIDDEN, bug-tar@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Monday 26 of January 2015 12:12:09 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, Pavel Raiskup wrote: >> >>> On Friday 23 of January 2015 15:45:57 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: >>>> Thank you Joerg. If so then it is an issue that must be fixed in >>>> automake, which is the reason I cross-posted to both projects, because I >>>> am not sure which one should be changed! >>> >>> What solution you exactly propose? Note that 'h' tar option is used for >> >> Maybe adding --hard-dereference? That's how I worked around the issue at >> least. > > From the automake POV, this is not standardized option (could be used only > for GNU tar if present though). You are right. I /thought/ I had resolved the problem by exporting TAR_OPTIONS=--hard-dereference. Unfortunately the problem persists, "make dist" fails on RHEL4 for example because tar sees this unrecognized option. > >>> dist from Y1996 commit [1] and its removal is unlikely. It is quite >>> portable and it, as the "default", works for many packages. >> >> It has been there since 1996, so the legacy behaviour of tar has been >> battle tested. However the new behaviour (hard links in place of >> symlinks) is probably only tested for a couple of years, > > Truth. The new behavior is in tar from 1.24. However, if we fixed this > in tar, GNU tar v1.24 to v1.28 still would not able to mimic the old > behavior. I believe my only choice at this point is to forbid "make dist" if tar is detected to be old (less than 1.29), and keep doing --hard-dereference. I open to new ideas though. :-) >> >> Using "tar-ustar" format for distribution you are supposed to raise some >> of the limits of the "v7" tar format but retain portability. Indeed, the >> length limit for regular files used to be 256 characters [2], and since >> all symlinks were stored as files that was universal. Now that symlinks >> are stored as hard links, the limit is 100 characters for those, thus >> I've hit this problem. >> >> [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/tar_68.html > > Yes, thanks - I see now. In ustar link name must fit into 100 characters > and the file path can be theoretically max 256 (if it is splittable > correctly into prefix/name). > > You seem to have *directory* in some distribution sensitive variable, > like: > > # Directory contains 'file' and 'link -> file'. > EXTRA_DIST = directory > > .. Because if you had: > > EXTRA_DIST = directory/file directory/link > > then automake (via 'cp -p') would follow the link for you. In case of > directories (before the actual 'tar ch' happens) automake copies the > directory recursively by 'cp -fpR' [2] into temporary directory. I don't think this solution is worth the trouble in my case, since the directory included has a deep and complex structure (hence some files surpass 100 characters). Thanks, Dimitris > > Could we add '-L' option to this cp call (dist target is not supposed to > be portable to everywhere and -L is POSIX)? Obviously, the archive bloat > is not something automake tries to avoid. > > Anyway, I don't feel the handling of symbolic-links this way is correct. > Don't we wan't to use something like $LN_S [autoconf manual] in such > cases? > > [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-tar/2011-01/msg00000.html > [2] http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/automake.git/tree/lib/am/distdir.am?id=6357a630dc#n193 > > Pavel > >
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: jimis@HIDDEN, eggert@HIDDEN, bug-automake@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Pavel Raiskup <praiskup@HIDDEN> wrote: > On Monday 26 of January 2015 12:12:09 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > > On Friday 23 of January 2015 15:45:57 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > > >> Thank you Joerg. If so then it is an issue that must be fixed in > > >> automake, which is the reason I cross-posted to both projects, because I > > >> am not sure which one should be changed! > > > > > > What solution you exactly propose? Note that 'h' tar option is used for > > > > Maybe adding --hard-dereference? That's how I worked around the issue at > > least. > > From the automake POV, this is not standardized option (could be used only > for GNU tar if present though). BTW: the german translation of the help output for that gtar option is rubbish. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@HIDDEN (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin joerg.schilling@HIDDEN (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN>, Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN>, eggert@HIDDEN, bug-automake@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) On Monday 26 of January 2015 12:12:09 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > On Friday 23 of January 2015 15:45:57 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > >> Thank you Joerg. If so then it is an issue that must be fixed in > >> automake, which is the reason I cross-posted to both projects, because I > >> am not sure which one should be changed! > > > > What solution you exactly propose? Note that 'h' tar option is used for > > Maybe adding --hard-dereference? That's how I worked around the issue at > least. From the automake POV, this is not standardized option (could be used only for GNU tar if present though). > > dist from Y1996 commit [1] and its removal is unlikely. It is quite > > portable and it, as the "default", works for many packages. > > It has been there since 1996, so the legacy behaviour of tar has been > battle tested. However the new behaviour (hard links in place of > symlinks) is probably only tested for a couple of years, Truth. The new behavior is in tar from 1.24. However, if we fixed this in tar, GNU tar v1.24 to v1.28 still would not able to mimic the old behavior. > and I've seen complaints online. There were posted some complaints here on the list, but these seem to be not so serious to revert that behavior or add yet another option (like mentioned in [1] thread). > > What is not clear to me also is your motivation to change GNU tar to > > behave differently, or to change something so old in automake. IMO, > > the > > Using "tar-ustar" format for distribution you are supposed to raise some > of the limits of the "v7" tar format but retain portability. Indeed, the > length limit for regular files used to be 256 characters [2], and since > all symlinks were stored as files that was universal. Now that symlinks > are stored as hard links, the limit is 100 characters for those, thus > I've hit this problem. > > [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/tar_68.html Yes, thanks - I see now. In ustar link name must fit into 100 characters and the file path can be theoretically max 256 (if it is splittable correctly into prefix/name). You seem to have *directory* in some distribution sensitive variable, like: # Directory contains 'file' and 'link -> file'. EXTRA_DIST = directory .. Because if you had: EXTRA_DIST = directory/file directory/link then automake (via 'cp -p') would follow the link for you. In case of directories (before the actual 'tar ch' happens) automake copies the directory recursively by 'cp -fpR' [2] into temporary directory. Could we add '-L' option to this cp call (dist target is not supposed to be portable to everywhere and -L is POSIX)? Obviously, the archive bloat is not something automake tries to avoid. Anyway, I don't feel the handling of symbolic-links this way is correct. Don't we wan't to use something like $LN_S [autoconf manual] in such cases? [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-tar/2011-01/msg00000.html [2] http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/automake.git/tree/lib/am/distdir.am?id=6357a630dc#n193 Pavel
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN>, eggert@HIDDEN, bug-automake@HIDDEN, bug-tar@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Friday 23 of January 2015 15:45:57 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: >> Thank you Joerg. If so then it is an issue that must be fixed in >> automake, which is the reason I cross-posted to both projects, because I >> am not sure which one should be changed! > > What solution you exactly propose? Note that 'h' tar option is used for Maybe adding --hard-dereference? That's how I worked around the issue at least. > dist from Y1996 commit [1] and its removal is unlikely. It is quite > portable and it, as the "default", works for many packages. It has been there since 1996, so the legacy behaviour of tar has been battle tested. However the new behaviour (hard links in place of symlinks) is probably only tested for a couple of years, and I've seen complaints online. > What is not clear to me also is your motivation to change GNU tar to > behave differently, or to change something so old in automake. IMO, the Using "tar-ustar" format for distribution you are supposed to raise some of the limits of the "v7" tar format but retain portability. Indeed, the length limit for regular files used to be 256 characters [2], and since all symlinks were stored as files that was universal. Now that symlinks are stored as hard links, the limit is 100 characters for those, thus I've hit this problem. [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/tar_68.html > reason why you hit this issue is not the "hardlinking" change itself, but > rather just small mistake of the maintainer who did not read STDERR tar's > warnings while doing 'make dist'. We could make those warnings more > obvious.. is that what you want? I see this as a separate issue, and my opinion is that automake should fail "make dist" when tar returns an error. I've filed a separate bug report for that [3]. [3] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-automake/2015-01/msg00019.html Dimitris > > [1] http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/automake.git/commit/?id=7930983ab1c620 > > Pavel > >
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN>, Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN>, eggert@HIDDEN, bug-automake@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) On Friday 23 of January 2015 15:45:57 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > Thank you Joerg. If so then it is an issue that must be fixed in > automake, which is the reason I cross-posted to both projects, because I > am not sure which one should be changed! What solution you exactly propose? Note that 'h' tar option is used for dist from Y1996 commit [1] and its removal is unlikely. It is quite portable and it, as the "default", works for many packages. What is not clear to me also is your motivation to change GNU tar to behave differently, or to change something so old in automake. IMO, the reason why you hit this issue is not the "hardlinking" change itself, but rather just small mistake of the maintainer who did not read STDERR tar's warnings while doing 'make dist'. We could make those warnings more obvious.. is that what you want? [1] http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/automake.git/commit/?id=7930983ab1c620 Pavel
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2015 16:20:12 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 23 11:20:12 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YEgxw-0004xL-84 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:20:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37868) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YEgxt-0004x8-Sx for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:20:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YEgxn-0004DJ-OI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:20:04 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:39239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YEgxn-0004D9-M4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:20:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39566) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YEgxm-0001N6-Ic for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:20:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YEgxh-000488-KS for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:20:02 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:40688) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YEgxh-000480-FX; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:19:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61153A60007; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:19:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xvcNnpVgA6Tk; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-173-55-11-52.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [173.55.11.52]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2DD18A60001; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:19:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54C274AB.4040704@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:19:55 -0800 From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: [Bug-tar] dist tarball contains hardlinks References: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501161641250.5189@localhost> <54B9CD48.8010708@HIDDEN> <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501180051340.7816@soupermouf> <54BBD989.4090703@HIDDEN> <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501231539520.18053@localhost> In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501231539520.18053@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-automake@HIDDEN, bug-tar@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > $ touch blah > $ ln -s blah link_to_blah > $ cp --dereference link_to_blah blah2 > > The result is that "blah" and "blah2" have different inode! Of course, and that's what one would expect, cp makes copies by default, and the copies have a different inode from the original. I was referring to something like this: touch blah ln -s blah link_to_blah mkdir dir cp -a --dereference blah link_to_blah dir This creates two hard links in dir, to the same new file. ("-a" attempts to make "cp" act as much like "tar" as it can.)
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2015 14:46:28 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 23 09:46:28 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53697 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YEfVD-0002Qx-4u for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:46:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39764) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfVB-0002Ql-90 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:46:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfV5-000400-E7 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:46:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM, MALFORMED_FREEMAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38350) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfV5-0003zs-Bs for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:46:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfV4-0005hI-Fx for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:46:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfV2-0003yx-Te for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:46:18 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:59657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfUx-0003xY-8T; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:46:11 -0500 Received: from [10.25.0.194] ([195.159.234.190]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKKaI-1YFDBx1ikw-001ig8; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:45:59 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:45:57 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN> To: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: [Bug-tar] dist tarball contains hardlinks In-Reply-To: <54bcd080.iC/cGretfaF9A6nr%Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501231544410.18053@localhost> References: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501161641250.5189@localhost> <54B9CD48.8010708@HIDDEN> <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501180051340.7816@soupermouf> <54bcd080.iC/cGretfaF9A6nr%Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Alpine 2.10 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:xs+Re4mEt1N/P+2khQn55HRigDbxuYHmHvOvs/iGgc0+2Id3nI4 PkPqdPJhlKJkcalAgGTxPpCCL4G/muHe3eS+FPd5dPL2pO8mPTBQNW+dfBMU90claQu8dhc klu6Mtk5phPcqwtiiT/fTtIlxF/Jj43LtBX5Xo0GMlvpSiSC7eH7H/obo1SiKGbXQwakQZC tK08SDk8dEJU+Qp1HLMZQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: eggert@HIDDEN, bug-automake@HIDDEN, bug-tar@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) On Mon, 19 Jan 2015, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN> wrote: > >> On Fri, 16 Jan 2015, Paul Eggert wrote: >> >>> Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: >>>> Why is such behaviour desirable? >>> >>> It's more logical, since it causes tar to behave as if the symlink were not >>> there, and the pointed-to file was there instead. >> >> But when the tarball is extracted, two files with same inode are created, >> which is kind of unexpected behaviour - at least for me - after creating > > The problem is not the tarball itself but the fact that someone called > > tar ch ... > > This is not the right way to go for collecting files for a distribution. > > In former times, I distributed symlinks with my distro tarballs but now I > include shell scripts that create the symlinks if needed and on platforms that > do not support symlinks, these shell scripts automatically try to create > hardlinks. > > Maybe you should contact the respobsible person for your distro tarball. Thank you Joerg. If so then it is an issue that must be fixed in automake, which is the reason I cross-posted to both projects, because I am not sure which one should be changed! Dimitris
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2015 14:45:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 23 09:45:00 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53693 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YEfTn-0002O1-0D for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:44:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39055) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfTk-0002No-AI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:44:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfTe-0003Ga-Ar for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:44:51 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, MALFORMED_FREEMAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfTe-0003GW-6o for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:44:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40767) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfTd-0004DA-5P for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:44:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfTb-0003FW-WE for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:44:49 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:61576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YEfTW-0003BV-Jm; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:44:42 -0500 Received: from [10.25.0.194] ([195.159.234.190]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MRWzQ-1Y81ci48gy-00Sdzb; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:44:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:44:26 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN> To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: [Bug-tar] dist tarball contains hardlinks In-Reply-To: <54BBD989.4090703@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501231539520.18053@localhost> References: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501161641250.5189@localhost> <54B9CD48.8010708@HIDDEN> <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501180051340.7816@soupermouf> <54BBD989.4090703@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Alpine 2.10 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9DR7OtyUwdyxp9ffE+GvVcOsMt+NmL1Gf56yH5qmLslPKf4xoqS 5ALkENbOBvMKPrD24n+SoVs8YHQo/Ps7iJeCpR5SjX8pB+j7qS+mg/fC4AeiZlsT30pV2ax mJ3vueZqL4otwtbmUSTW58buqAwNa0mRat7T0JT7iU+MrgVlWEQFt8N3d9oDd+fIqcShvvc MH51aoW5V7cDxLnGlKhhQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-automake@HIDDEN, bug-tar@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) On Sun, 18 Jan 2015, Paul Eggert wrote: > Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: >> But when the tarball is extracted, two files with same inode are created, >> which >> is kind of unexpected behaviour - at least for me > > Other utilities have similar behavior (e.g., ls, cp, du), in that they > pretend the symlink isn't there and behave as if the pointed-to inode is > there directly. Tar's current behavior is compatible with these other > utilities, whereas its old behavior was incompatible. Well out of the utilities you mentioned, only "cp" actually writes something, so it's related to the issue with tar. So I tried the behaviour of --dereference in cp: $ touch blah $ ln -s blah link_to_blah $ cp --dereference link_to_blah blah2 The result is that "blah" and "blah2" have different inode! So --dereference causes the symlink to be dereferenced to a separate file, *not* to a hardlink of the source. But in tar, --dereference causes a symlink to be dereferenced as a hardlink to the source file. So how is their behaviour consistent? BTW, my version of "cp" is: $ cp --version cp (GNU coreutils) 8.21 Thanks, Dimitris
bug-automake@HIDDEN
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN>, bug-automake@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) On Friday 16 of January 2015 16:43:20 Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > (Cross posting to both bug-automake and bug-tar as I can see both projects > being affected.) > (Please keep me CC'd as I'm not subscribed.) > > Hello, > > this bug report is because of the following messages when extracting a > source tarball generated with "make dist". You can read the full bug > report at https://dev.cfengine.com/issues/6925. > > # tar -xzf core/cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54.tar.gz > tar: cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/10_modify_user_with_same_password.cf: Cannot hard link to `cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/20_modify_user_with_same_password_hpux_tru': No such file or directory > [...] > > Regading automake, it implements "make dist" using "tar -chf" where -h > stands for --dereference, i.e. it dereferences all symlinks. I believe > I've read that it is for portability, because symlinks are handled in a > variety of manners in different tar implementations. However as seen > above, what actually happens is that GNU tar stores the symlinks as > hardlinks. Because the total path length of the hardlinks is more than 100 > characters, they get truncated due to "ustar" format limitations (ustar > format is chosen using the "tar-ustar" automake option). When using automake, try to use: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([filename-length-max=99]) That breaks 'make dist' as you would expect. Maybe this could be done by default for certain archive formats (or make dist could be silenced a little to see tar's warnings). > Please notice that removing "-h" fixes the problem. Symlinks are stored > properly as their length is much smaller than 100 chars (because they are > relative symlinks). Not much - when 'tar chf -' (and in your example) the symlinks are probably just (with a bit of luck) a bit smaller than not archived files. > Another workaround (the one I chose to use) is to pass the > --hard-dereference to GNU tar in order to store the content of the files > itself, avoiding all kind of links, and maintaining best portability. So > I've added the following lines in my Makefile.am: Also, when fighting with 'tar chf -', you may AC_SUBST([am__tar]) to whatever you want. This would replace what is automatically detected by m4/tar.m4. Pavel
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2015 09:38:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 19 04:38:47 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60987 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YD8nH-0005E6-8F for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:38:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50545) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <joerg.schilling@HIDDEN>) id 1YD8nA-0005De-6Z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:38:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <joerg.schilling@HIDDEN>) id 1YD8n0-0007fF-Uu for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:38:34 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43746) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <joerg.schilling@HIDDEN>) id 1YD8n0-0007f9-Qs for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:38:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52252) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <joerg.schilling@HIDDEN>) id 1YD8mv-0001rD-83 for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:38:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <joerg.schilling@HIDDEN>) id 1YD8mr-0007X4-43 for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:38:25 -0500 Received: from mx-relay39-dus.antispameurope.com ([94.100.134.239]:35642) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <joerg.schilling@HIDDEN>) id 1YD8mq-0007NM-Ri for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:38:21 -0500 Received: from smtpsrv1.fokus.fraunhofer.de ([195.37.77.166]) by mx-gate39-dus.antispameurope.com; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:38:12 +0100 Received: from DIRAC.fokus.fraunhofer.de ([IPv6:2001:638:806:9::201]) by smtpsrv1.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0J9c9Pc008562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:38:09 +0100 Received: from rigel (10.147.13.100) by DIRAC.fokus.fraunhofer.de (10.147.9.201) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.224.2; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:38:07 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:38:08 +0100 From: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN> To: <jimis@HIDDEN>, <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: [Bug-tar] dist tarball contains hardlinks Message-ID: <54bcd080.iC/cGretfaF9A6nr%Joerg.Schilling@HIDDEN> References: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501161641250.5189@localhost> <54B9CD48.8010708@HIDDEN> <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501180051340.7816@soupermouf> In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501180051340.7816@soupermouf> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KSE-Antivirus-Interceptor-Info: protection disabled X-cloud-security-sender: joerg.schilling@HIDDEN X-cloud-security-recipient: bug-automake@HIDDEN X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mx-gate39-dus with B5B2D2018010 X-cloud-security-connect: smtpsrv1.fokus.fraunhofer.de[195.37.77.166], TLS=, IP=195.37.77.166 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2649 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-automake@HIDDEN, bug-tar@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2015, Paul Eggert wrote: > > > Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > >> Why is such behaviour desirable? > > > > It's more logical, since it causes tar to behave as if the symlink were not > > there, and the pointed-to file was there instead. > > But when the tarball is extracted, two files with same inode are created, > which is kind of unexpected behaviour - at least for me - after creating The problem is not the tarball itself but the fact that someone called tar ch ... This is not the right way to go for collecting files for a distribution. In former times, I distributed symlinks with my distro tarballs but now I include shell scripts that create the symlinks if needed and on platforms that do not support symlinks, these shell scripts automatically try to create hardlinks. Maybe you should contact the respobsible person for your distro tarball. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@HIDDEN (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin joerg.schilling@HIDDEN (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2015 16:04:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 18 11:04:58 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YCsLS-0003Gf-BT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:04:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59071) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YCsLO-0003GO-OB for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:04:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YCsLE-0007EJ-BL for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:04:49 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:55890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YCsLE-0007ED-8k for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:04:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YCsLD-0005H3-Av for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:04:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YCsL9-0007DC-53 for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:04:43 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:41184) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1YCsL8-0007B9-Vi; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:04:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B6BA60013; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 08:04:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FUP8ajVAuqhW; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 08:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-173-55-11-52.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [173.55.11.52]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9FFA939E8013; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 08:04:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54BBD989.4090703@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 08:04:25 -0800 From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: [Bug-tar] dist tarball contains hardlinks References: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501161641250.5189@localhost> <54B9CD48.8010708@HIDDEN> <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501180051340.7816@soupermouf> In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501180051340.7816@soupermouf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-automake@HIDDEN, bug-tar@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > But when the tarball is extracted, two files with same inode are created, which > is kind of unexpected behaviour - at least for me Other utilities have similar behavior (e.g., ls, cp, du), in that they pretend the symlink isn't there and behave as if the pointed-to inode is there directly. Tar's current behavior is compatible with these other utilities, whereas its old behavior was incompatible.
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2015 00:11:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 17 19:11:02 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60411 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YCdSH-00010r-Tj for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:11:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57343) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YCdSF-00010K-0l for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:10:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YCdRz-0001hv-TF for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:10:53 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YCdRz-0001hr-Pn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:10:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YCdRv-0007mk-2Y for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:10:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YCdRq-0001eV-9r for bug-automake@HIDDEN; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:10:38 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:53349) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <jimis@HIDDEN>) id 1YCdRp-0001dz-VD; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:10:34 -0500 Received: from soupermouf ([84.209.109.55]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLB89-1YCuQc0lLl-000JUf; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 01:10:27 +0100 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 01:10:14 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@HIDDEN> To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: [Bug-tar] dist tarball contains hardlinks In-Reply-To: <54B9CD48.8010708@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501180051340.7816@soupermouf> References: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501161641250.5189@localhost> <54B9CD48.8010708@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (LFD 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:UDjt3MLXf88ap0xI0JwWtIfF07UBoVY3Y1ICP8S46wixLfznJIN FGvt8rXAtpHGCBZqYkNpfxpt1BI8D2VUJHbA1T5I0+1n0x/AqhOCVmg7Gzi4ax+NE7Q+4hB wLHzIw2cTRnp14KUK12L+JfKpYEwg0OYnCHPXtBvIlyfCo5jECu89q1ZMIJlTf/qDBthfeQ hrxkocwdGLtklggKihRQg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-automake@HIDDEN, bug-tar@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) On Fri, 16 Jan 2015, Paul Eggert wrote: > Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: >> Why is such behaviour desirable? > > It's more logical, since it causes tar to behave as if the symlink were not > there, and the pointed-to file was there instead. But when the tarball is extracted, two files with same inode are created, which is kind of unexpected behaviour - at least for me - after creating the tarball with --dereference, i.e. I've explicitly asked to follow symlinks. And it beats the purpose some users have been using --dereference - to avoid storing links which have more restrictions (e.g. 100 char limit). > Using -hard-dereference bloats the tar image, but if that's a price you're > willing to pay then you have a solution to the problem. Indeed that's what I chose as workaround, compression deals well with duplicated information so size bloating was minimal. Thanks, Dimitris
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) (Cross posting to both bug-automake and bug-tar as I can see both projects being affected.) (Please keep me CC'd as I'm not subscribed.) Hello, this bug report is because of the following messages when extracting a source tarball generated with "make dist". You can read the full bug report at https://dev.cfengine.com/issues/6925. # tar -xzf core/cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54.tar.gz tar: cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/10_modify_user_with_same_password.cf: Cannot hard link to `cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/20_modify_user_with_same_password_hpux_tru': No such file or directory tar: cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/10_modify_user_with_many_attributes_warn.cf: Cannot hard link to `cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/20_modify_user_with_many_attributes_warn_h': No such file or directory tar: cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/10_add_user_with_many_attributes_warn.cf: Cannot hard link to `cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/20_add_user_with_many_attributes_warn_hpux': No such file or directory tar: cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/10_modify_user_lock_with_password.cf: Cannot hard link to `cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/20_modify_user_lock_with_password_hpux_tru': No such file or directory tar: cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/20_newly_created_account_should_not_count_as_locked_hpux_trusted.cf: Cannot hard link to `cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/10_newly_created_account_should_not_count_': No such file or directory tar: cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/10_modify_user_unlock_with_password.cf: Cannot hard link to `cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/20_modify_user_unlock_with_password_hpux_t': No such file or directory tar: cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/10_add_user_with_hashed_password.cf: Cannot hard link to `cfengine-3.7.0a1.5ffcc54/tests/acceptance/17_users/unsafe/20_add_user_with_hashed_password_hpux_trus': No such file or directory tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors Regading automake, it implements "make dist" using "tar -chf" where -h stands for --dereference, i.e. it dereferences all symlinks. I believe I've read that it is for portability, because symlinks are handled in a variety of manners in different tar implementations. However as seen above, what actually happens is that GNU tar stores the symlinks as hardlinks. Because the total path length of the hardlinks is more than 100 characters, they get truncated due to "ustar" format limitations (ustar format is chosen using the "tar-ustar" automake option). Please notice that removing "-h" fixes the problem. Symlinks are stored properly as their length is much smaller than 100 chars (because they are relative symlinks). Another workaround (the one I chose to use) is to pass the --hard-dereference to GNU tar in order to store the content of the files itself, avoiding all kind of links, and maintaining best portability. So I've added the following lines in my Makefile.am: TAR_OPTIONS = --hard-dereference export TAR_OPTIONS Regarding GNU tar, I've read at [1] and [2] that this behaviour was introduced recently, but is the intended behaviour. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tar/+bug/887107 [2] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-tar/2011-11/msg00025.html My opinion is that it's really deceiving, given what the man page mentions: "follow symlinks; archive and dump the files they point to". It took me a while to figure out what those "hard link" messages mean, looking if I introduced hard links by accident. And since the hard links have no direction, some messages show the linking direction reversed, which made the issue even stranger. Why is such behaviour desirable? Are the reasons important enough to break expectations of users? Thank you in advance, Dimitris
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