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Subject: Re: bug#19931: 24.4; Support for OS X press and hold
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>> Yes this almost solves the problem. Just that in case of press-and-hold,
>> the user doesn’t have to goto another key. The combination is the main
>> key and arrow-key to select the correct accent.
>
> There are some options in 'quail-define-package', and I recall
> that some of them can enable more interactive selection among
> displayed variants, but I don't remember what input methods used
> such options, and what options of 'quail-define-package' can do this,
> maybe 'SHOW-LAYOUT', but I'm not sure.
Actually, the interactive selection UI is enabled when a rule contains
a vector of possible variants, e.g.:
(quail-define-rules
("a" [?á ?ä]))
then typing "a" displays a list of characters to select.
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Full text available.Received: (at 19931) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2020 21:27:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 13 16:27:38 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50591 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1koYu1-00085Q-OA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 16:27:37 -0500 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:49775) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1koYtz-00084m-NO for 19931 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 16:27:36 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.99.98 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-99-98.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.99.98]) (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74112C0006; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:27:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#19931: 24.4; Support for OS X press and hold Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <CAArVCkTgqWX+gWN=M56_VPw05jfNRzdwETHCbbtMxKGSRK=aKg@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmkb4wzneT28_MYSNneMwdqzHK2jZp45U_nf-vhu6-yWDg@HIDDEN> <CAArVCkQ3GP4ZihrhrYhxK6iJ-DE8T+1bABvk1LfOmELqyJMYAA@HIDDEN> <87o8iymjk9.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3ep0bn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2i2ujoz.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:20:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y2i2ujoz.fsf@HIDDEN> (Pankaj Jangid's message of "Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:11:32 +0530") Message-ID: <8736099zlm.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19931 Cc: 19931 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN>, Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> But any postfix input method in Emacs already works the same way, for >> example: >> >> C-\ latin-1-postfix >> a >> >> displays a list of possible accents to select. > > Yes this almost solves the problem. Just that in case of press-and-hold, > the user doesn’t have to goto another key. The combination is the main > key and arrow-key to select the correct accent. There are some options in 'quail-define-package', and I recall that some of them can enable more interactive selection among displayed variants, but I don't remember what input methods used such options, and what options of 'quail-define-package' can do this, maybe 'SHOW-LAYOUT', but I'm not sure.
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Probably, we can think of something better to >> achieve the same goal. And make it portably available to all. >> >> One idea: >> >> A new input-method: accented-cycle (C-u C-\ "accented-cycle" RET). >> >> Once you have this input-method selected, then repeating same key will >> cycle through the accented options. Ofcourse sometimes it is useful to >> cut off input method so that instead of cycling you just repeat the same >> character in the typed text. This is already very well documented in the >> "(emacs) 22.3 Input Method". >> >> Also, the newly added "transient" input method will also be added help. >> >> So, why "press and hold" when you can simply "glide". > > I don't know how "Press and hold" works on OS X, but it seems it's like > on some smartphone screen virtual keyboards holding down a letter pops up > a list of suggestions with accented letters. Yes exactly similar to that. > But any postfix input method in Emacs already works the same way, for > example: > > C-\ latin-1-postfix > a > > displays a list of possible accents to select. Yes this almost solves the problem. Just that in case of press-and-hold, the user doesn=E2=80=99t have to goto another key. The combination is the m= ain key and arrow-key to select the correct accent. May be we can have a generic implementation. The next possible keys are already displayed in the echo area. Pressing the same character key again cycles through those options. e e =3D> =C3=AB e e e =3D> =C3=A9 e e e e =3D> =C3=A6 e e e e e =3D> =C3=AA e e e e e e =3D> =C3=A8 But, to be honest, I find the postfix implementation to be much faster.
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Full text available.Received: (at 19931) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2020 08:51:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 13 03:51:37 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47394 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1koN6P-0002iV-Ah for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 03:51:37 -0500 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:51653) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1koN6N-0002ht-8W for 19931 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 03:51:36 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.99.98 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-99-98.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.99.98]) (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA44D40003; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 08:51:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#19931: 24.4; Support for OS X press and hold Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <CAArVCkTgqWX+gWN=M56_VPw05jfNRzdwETHCbbtMxKGSRK=aKg@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmkb4wzneT28_MYSNneMwdqzHK2jZp45U_nf-vhu6-yWDg@HIDDEN> <CAArVCkQ3GP4ZihrhrYhxK6iJ-DE8T+1bABvk1LfOmELqyJMYAA@HIDDEN> <87o8iymjk9.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:38:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8iymjk9.fsf@HIDDEN> (Pankaj Jangid's message of "Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:41:34 +0530") Message-ID: <87pn3ep0bn.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19931 Cc: 19931 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN>, Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > And if that is patented (like the right swipe) then no other system will > be implementing it. Probably, we can think of something better to > achieve the same goal. And make it portably available to all. > > One idea: > > A new input-method: accented-cycle (C-u C-\ "accented-cycle" RET). > > Once you have this input-method selected, then repeating same key will > cycle through the accented options. Ofcourse sometimes it is useful to > cut off input method so that instead of cycling you just repeat the same > character in the typed text. This is already very well documented in the > "(emacs) 22.3 Input Method". > > Also, the newly added "transient" input method will also be added help. > > So, why "press and hold" when you can simply "glide". I don't know how "Press and hold" works on OS X, but it seems it's like on some smartphone screen virtual keyboards holding down a letter pops up a list of suggestions with accented letters. But any postfix input method in Emacs already works the same way, for example: C-\ latin-1-postfix a displays a list of possible accents to select.
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It's >> > not supported in Emacs. >> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-06/msg00784.html >> > states: "Let's look into making it work properly once people decide to >> > install Lion." >> > That was more than three years ago, and since then two major OS X >> > versions have been released, but unfortunately press and hold is still >> > not supported. It would be great to support this feature to make Emacs >> > more consistent with other apps on OS X. >> >> Do we have support for this on free operating systems? Otherwise, I >> think the policy is that we can't add it to Emacs. > > Probably yes, at least I haven't found similar functionality on free > windowing systems. And if that is patented (like the right swipe) then no other system will be implementing it. Probably, we can think of something better to achieve the same goal. And make it portably available to all. One idea: A new input-method: accented-cycle (C-u C-\ "accented-cycle" RET). Once you have this input-method selected, then repeating same key will cycle through the accented options. Ofcourse sometimes it is useful to cut off input method so that instead of cycling you just repeat the same character in the typed text. This is already very well documented in the "(emacs) 22.3 Input Method". Also, the newly added "transient" input method will also be added help. So, why "press and hold" when you can simply "glide".
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Full text available.Received: (at 19931) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2020 14:04:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 23 09:04:26 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49581 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1khCSA-0001cx-FC for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:04:26 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-f47.google.com ([209.85.218.47]:41405) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <stefankangas@HIDDEN>) id 1khCS7-0001ci-P8 for 19931 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:04:24 -0500 Received: by mail-ej1-f47.google.com with SMTP id gj5so23450303ejb.8 for <19931 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 06:04:23 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FOht0gMKQ9nI7QtH+vZ6RgImaJSAuf8u3Ss+wbOw0q8=; b=d0tCHtFO84OjuWK3IEgnKkUBaR7GVPs61tKKdCkEjznKUjRBeYZwT1mfJaSZBhVS8m HjjaAXDHOmvuQ+oFOU7mV1wHZMjBk5Ol23UhAd0ulPASEoDVRj5ual4CAaf3+FVPBWXu mqOeRE2rFdWJrXF4E/d+UuTsFBmLeyUdNhEZNsxy4zQ/5CASpJDZVaqBf2dUREJ+GCa3 0DVK03OVytt9aEF2VI0pz5NSr8dJ5j4GauukJF7pD+S9H6UL3LTYLozO+MpNZxyN/1e8 f+lifukeRX7hBsTDpz5Lce5ye01t/r7WsB4xhfpjkWdCGor5I43oazlmfINyfLtN3acD CK2w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533CEs3JPrTj5s48diKgMtFQ/Yp9Cr+y1YAnunE6k1Vy4G1RfL+4 S2Tc5+NFMPhLU0taCsX5zSNzA2eFQo6Wav8W33o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyMxGIdBAszK415KtqQGq9N4/FDyfI+mszd8GODWHGeBi5MtcJ/bHhTj7W6DVjX18YoZAaoSgBwEcJFh7KFKIg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:4e90:: with SMTP id v16mr45921681eju.477.1606140257911; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 06:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:04:17 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkTgqWX+gWN=M56_VPw05jfNRzdwETHCbbtMxKGSRK=aKg@HIDDEN> (Philipp Stephani's message of "Mon, 23 Feb 2015 22:05:32 +0100") References: <CAArVCkTgqWX+gWN=M56_VPw05jfNRzdwETHCbbtMxKGSRK=aKg@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:04:16 -0500 Message-ID: <CADwFkmkb4wzneT28_MYSNneMwdqzHK2jZp45U_nf-vhu6-yWDg@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#19931: 24.4; Support for OS X press and hold To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19931 Cc: 19931 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN> writes: > "Press and hold" is an OS X input method used for entering accented > characters if a key is held down (instead of repeating the key). It's > not supported in Emacs. > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-06/msg00784.html > states: "Let's look into making it work properly once people decide to > install Lion." > That was more than three years ago, and since then two major OS X > versions have been released, but unfortunately press and hold is still > not supported. It would be great to support this feature to make Emacs > more consistent with other apps on OS X. Do we have support for this on free operating systems? Otherwise, I think the policy is that we can't add it to Emacs.
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It's not supported in Emacs. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-06/msg00784.html states: "Let's look into making it work properly once people decide to install Lion." That was more than three years ago, and since then two major OS X versions have been released, but unfortunately press and hold is still not supported. It would be great to support this feature to make Emacs more consistent with other apps on OS X. In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0, NS apple-appkit-1265.21) of 2014-10-22 on p Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1344 Configured using: `configure --prefix=/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.4 --enable-locallisppath=/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp --infodir=/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.4/share/info/emacs --without-dbus --without-gnutls --with-ns --disable-ns-self-contained' Important settings: value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: <menu-bar> <help-menu> <send-emacs-bug-report> Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util help-fns mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process cocoa ns multi-tty emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 71987 6607) (symbols 48 17377 0) (miscs 40 36 154) (strings 32 9965 4605) (string-bytes 1 263174) (vectors 16 9021) (vector-slots 8 384474 14793) (floats 8 53 103) (intervals 56 179 0) (buffers 960 11)) --001a11c32cf448dcf6050fc7c329 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: <m28ufo737a.fsf@HIDDEN= address--so-tickle-me><br>--text follows this line--<br><br>"Press = and hold" is an OS X input method used for entering accented<br>charac= ters if a key is held down (instead of repeating the key).=C2=A0 It's<b= r>not supported in Emacs.<br><a href=3D"http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/e= macs-devel/2011-06/msg00784.html">http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-d= evel/2011-06/msg00784.html</a><br>states: "Let's look into making = it work properly once people decide to<br>install Lion."<br>That was m= ore than three years ago, and since then two major OS X<br>versions have be= en released, but unfortunately press and hold is still<br>not supported.=C2= =A0 It would be great to support this feature to make Emacs<br>more consist= ent with other apps on OS X.<br><br><br>In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-apple-d= arwin13.4.0, NS apple-appkit-1265.21)<br>=C2=A0of 2014-10-22 on p<br>Window= ing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1344<br>Configured using:<= br>=C2=A0`configure --prefix=3D/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.4<br>=C2=A0--enab= le-locallisppath=3D/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp<br>=C2=A0--infodir=3D/u= sr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.4/share/info/emacs --without-dbus<br>=C2=A0--witho= ut-gnutls --with-ns --disable-ns-self-contained'<br><br>Important setti= ngs:<br>=C2=A0 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8<br>=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: = utf-8-unix<br><br>Major mode: Lisp Interaction<br><br>Minor modes in effect= :<br>=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 mou= se-wheel-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 tool-bar-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 menu-bar-mode: t<br>= =C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t<br>=C2= =A0 font-lock-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 blink-cursor-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 auto-composi= tion-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 auto-compression-m= ode: t<br>=C2=A0 line-number-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t<br><b= r>Recent input:<br><menu-bar> <help-menu> <send-emacs-bug-re= port><br><br>Recent messages:<br>For information about GNU Emacs and the= GNU system, type C-h C-a.<br><br>Load-path shadows:<br>None found.<br><br>= Features:<br>(shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec = rfc822 mml<br>easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc= 2231<br>mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums= <br>mm-util help-fns mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date tooltip electric<br>un= iquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win tool-bar dnd<br>fo= ntset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode<br>prog-m= ode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar<br>mouse jit= -lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian<br>utf-8-lang= misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean<br>japanese hebrew g= reek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian<br>cyrillic chinese cas= e-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev<br>minibuffer nadvice loa= ddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files<br>text-properties overlay sha1 = md5 base64 format env code-pages mule<br>custom widget hashtable-print-read= able backquote make-network-process<br>cocoa ns multi-tty emacs)<br><br>Mem= ory information:<br>((conses 16 71987 6607)<br>=C2=A0(symbols 48 17377 0)<b= r>=C2=A0(miscs 40 36 154)<br>=C2=A0(strings 32 9965 4605)<br>=C2=A0(string-= bytes 1 263174)<br>=C2=A0(vectors 16 9021)<br>=C2=A0(vector-slots 8 384474 = 14793)<br>=C2=A0(floats 8 53 103)<br>=C2=A0(intervals 56 179 0)<br>=C2=A0(b= uffers 960 11))<br></div> --001a11c32cf448dcf6050fc7c329--
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