X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#20144: 25.0.50; Functions using fboundp not known to be defined Resent-From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.20144.B.1426780538947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20144 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20144 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1426780538947 (code B ref -1); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:56:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Mar 2015 15:55:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53213 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YYcnI-0000FC-RI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:55:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57309) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <p.stephani2@HIDDEN>) id 1YYcnF-0000F3-Tc for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:55:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <p.stephani2@HIDDEN>) id 1YYcn9-000467-JN for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:55:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:39411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <p.stephani2@HIDDEN>) id 1YYcn9-000461-GG for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:55:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59015) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <p.stephani2@HIDDEN>) id 1YYcn3-0004fT-Hg for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:55:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <p.stephani2@HIDDEN>) id 1YYcmx-00042F-Lv for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:55:21 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]:36119) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <p.stephani2@HIDDEN>) id 1YYcmx-00040u-22 for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:55:15 -0400 Received: by wibg7 with SMTP id g7so121760941wib.1 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 08:55:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=VqimsBYYrQEtRb14WvcyH/8jSB7Fq7Uds1rlVvNAkBU=; b=hpbaEwNdeEqrC9lBnvVo2/oKN54d4KsAF1py3MzG+QK/qoFCOJpL8BOKAoX+n9qPfU tqJFTu0imf/1ZkvcvijicT9IcFHLY1jwtiO/OHFoJBGPiRjCVip+Hg2NjgTp8XxHpZ8f x/pKsof4w85CnXIoBfx0WQi6+GauKrVGPwUQmbq3cwTJHdxTXnkCY8lYGFhKmgxocomd GDlzFUW62xgPuKOY3EcRGDSQjcZXU1+IxuoUOCi9/+Mcfir50sB+9xAoTejBTDwtzs8g /4tuYql3OAL9UaBelS2tvJdRSmLr8oaPiaqr1JgT/j6i8heq5c/rUm+0xsAsVYUTnrLQ pgNA== X-Received: by 10.180.102.234 with SMTP id fr10mr17167338wib.48.1426780514182; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 08:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phst2.muc.corp.google.com ([2620:0:1046:0:5c4:5440:6855:9d5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hn8sm2982147wib.18.2015.03.19.08.55.13 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 08:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:54:41 +0100 Message-ID: <wvr4wq2dhtj2.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) Byte-compiling the following file: (if (fboundp 'car) (defalias 'mycar 'car) (defun mycar (_l) (error "what"))) (defun foo () (mycar nil)) results in the byte compiler warning Warning: the function `mycar' is not known to be defined. However, the function is clearly always defined. Since this trick is rather common, the byte compiler should know about it. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.8) of 2014-12-01 on *hidden*, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11501000 System Description: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Configured using: `configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/25.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/25.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/25.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/25.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#20144: 25.0.50; Functions using fboundp not known to be defined Resent-From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 17:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.20144.B20144.142678756022926 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20144 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN> Cc: 20144 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20144-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B20144.142678756022926 (code B ref 20144); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 17:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 20144) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Mar 2015 17:52:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53276 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YYecZ-0005xh-Po for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:52:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37638) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1YYecX-0005xZ-8t for 20144 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:52:37 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1YYecW-0000Wr-Ep; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:52:36 -0400 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> References: <wvr4wq2dhtj2.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spook: Freeh oil Ron Brown Honduras UFO industrial espionage X-Ran: ZAN&O3:TdZ)PQ5:R6h(vRT,:wD#P0bV?)PwgR8EOF?i|SDuvl/n03"xuDg%)Fb2;!bA3;- X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:52:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <wvr4wq2dhtj2.fsf@HIDDEN> (Philipp Stephani's message of "Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:54:41 +0100") Message-ID: <t5fv90ho2j.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Philipp Stephani wrote: > However, the function is clearly always defined. Since this trick is > rather common, the byte compiler should know about it. This issue has existed "forever". I really doubt it will ever change. Eg http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg02316.html
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#20144: 25.0.50; Functions using fboundp not known to be defined Resent-From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 17:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.20144.B20144.142678766123112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20144 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN> Cc: 20144 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20144-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B20144.142678766123112 (code B ref 20144); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 17:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 20144) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Mar 2015 17:54:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YYeeD-00060i-9C for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:54:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37716) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1YYeeB-00060a-Jh for 20144 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:54:19 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1YYeeB-0000p9-8f; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:54:19 -0400 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> References: <wvr4wq2dhtj2.fsf@HIDDEN> <t5fv90ho2j.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spook: INS Security Council industrial intelligence Watergate X-Ran: 43u[J/)^ZC'(@meRTzmCJ9SUJj/N{#G[:F/B<-S|[O[;;:q]M5l73w'd]N3p&1"%q,phek X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:54:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <t5fv90ho2j.fsf@HIDDEN> (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:52:36 -0400") Message-ID: <vzbnjohnzo.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This is a dupe of http://debbugs.gnu.org/8140 .
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#20144: 25.0.50; Functions using fboundp not known to be defined Resent-From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 19:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.20144.B20144.14267932685370 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20144 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@HIDDEN> Cc: 20144 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20144-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B20144.14267932685370 (code B ref 20144); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 19:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 20144) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Mar 2015 19:27:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58559 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1YYg6e-0001OQ-Bp for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:27:48 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:41656) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <monnier@HIDDEN>) id 1YYg6c-0001OB-JS; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:27:46 -0400 Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t2JJRj5f016488; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:27:45 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 390DA182C; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:27:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <jwv38504wq3.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@HIDDEN> References: <wvr4wq2dhtj2.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:27:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <wvr4wq2dhtj2.fsf@HIDDEN> (Philipp Stephani's message of "Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:54:41 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5250=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5250> : inlines <2448> : streams <1408195> : uri <1884883> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) severity 20144 wishlist thanks > (if (fboundp 'car) > (defalias 'mycar 'car) > (defun mycar (_l) (error "what"))) (defalias 'mycar (if (fboundp 'car) 'car (lambda (_l) (error "what")))) The difference is one of the two versions requires reasoning (simple/trivial for you, but beyond the reach of the simple byte-compiler we're using), whereas the other doesn't. Admittedly, when you need to define two versions of a *set* of functions, depending on a single test, the above trick of sinking the testing into the `defalias' ends up being a bit ugly/inconvenient. Stefan
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