X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#21206: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual
Resent-From: Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:28:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.21206.B.143895046626142 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21206
X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs
X-GNU-PR-Keywords:
To: 21206 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Texinfo <bug-texinfo@HIDDEN>
X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143895046626142
(code B ref -1); Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:28:02 +0000
Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2015 12:27:46 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41876 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1ZNgkS-0006nY-FC
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:27:45 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54571)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80)
(envelope-from <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN>) id 1ZNgkP-0006nP-HF
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:27:42 -0400
Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71)
(envelope-from <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN>) id 1ZNgkN-0007AH-TM
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:27:41 -0400
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,
FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled
version=3.3.2
Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:47951)
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71)
(envelope-from <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN>) id 1ZNgkN-0007AB-Qc
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:27:39 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39831)
by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71)
(envelope-from <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN>) id 1ZNgkM-00084O-QS
for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:27:39 -0400
Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71)
(envelope-from <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN>) id 1ZNgkK-00078o-QH
for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:27:38 -0400
Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]:37277)
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71)
(envelope-from <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN>)
id 1ZNgkK-00078k-LK; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:27:36 -0400
Received: by igbpg9 with SMTP id pg9so30441126igb.0;
Fri, 07 Aug 2015 05:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
:cc:content-type;
bh=7oba9bv3y8+ICRT9+wUgqIyQoxhCOBzwt0nR07EpNyM=;
b=IUZcz7s/9dZ7ZdVPbu+uPfHwaCDzXTpCM0jEPTlLbv0dXXUVA+YINSiFWqg7HvsbD0
SE6LO7tsR2ASJagiBzl1vae5h8adh10htHsu1XDCmH9ryVjgeQw6Gjxc6sa060GtxA+m
wwCCqxH5+sNqEeIWo4mFAIxk1zUuuxOvbSj7B9Lqh93JYfESX/WC+fQ3+YFXM4+Zqj6e
RerKK/+zExHwdnXREfasA6sVNlgCQ82j7G0T2zwjpK3E+UBTPgDt/r5ZvVE/3HSPRSgH
eDbe9AtkZ2cW0YS3PiQ+9waI9iwtiU8DCyJyz0WAN2hSzuCrQ/zCrSJrTzColD02AR/P
pfhw==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.50.124.4 with SMTP id me4mr2564846igb.34.1438950456172; Fri,
07 Aug 2015 05:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.36.87.204 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 05:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <834mkbscxa.fsf@HIDDEN>
References: <87io8x6z7i.fsf@HIDDEN>
<201508032155.t73LtVPb018995@HIDDEN>
<20150803231023.GH17940@HIDDEN>
<CAKPWYQ0A18vh=hk2wWZW425AsUS9Q919OV0UYZt08REDeT=DcQ@HIDDEN>
<834mkbscxa.fsf@HIDDEN>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:27:36 +0100
Message-ID: <CAKPWYQ3XCzt39mNEOsFRTUGsdfGFAvtYM=ShnbDzDJo3Ff8vvQ@HIDDEN>
From: Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address
(bad octet value).
X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address
(bad octet value).
X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11
X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---)
I implemented an option in the standalone Info browser to search the
subdirectory containing the current Info file when following a
cross-reference to another manual, before searching through the Info
file search path. Emacs Info could have a similar option.
The variable is called "follow-strategy": in Emacs the variable could
be "Info-follow-strategy". The two possible values at the moment are
"remain" and "path". "remain" is the default: it means to try to
remain in the current subdirectory. The other is "path" which means
search through the search path, which was the previous default
behaviour. If you can think of better names please email.
The intention behind this change is to improve support for
installation of multiple versions of manuals at once. For example,
with a dir entry of
* Emacs-23: (emacs-23/emacs)Top.
and with files emacs-23/emacs.info, emacs-23/calc.info
doing "info Emacs-23" gives the emacs-23/emacs.info file. Then
following a cross-reference "*Note (calc)Top::." will find
emacs-23/calc.info, instead of whatever calc.info file was earlier in
the search path. Likewise there can be other subdirectories under the
main Info subdirectory for other versions, like "emacs-24" or
"emacs-25", containing the corresponding Info files.
This should be useful for projects like Emacs with many manuals that
all reference each other, and when finding the manual for the same
version is desirable.
This appears to provide the functionality that some users wanted, for
example the Debian maintainers. However, let me point out what this
doesn't accomplish:
* References to the "emacs" manual from outwith the "emacs-23"
subdirectory will not be capable of finding "emacs-23/emacs.info",
unless "emacs-23" is in the search path.
* Such dir entries cannot at present be automatically generated by
appropriately invoking install-info (the program to update dir files),
or by Automake-generated build systems that install Info files. So
there still isn't a convenient way to install and access multiple
versions of Info manuals at once.
* References to subdirectories in node specifications aren't treated
the way they need to be for this to work by the Info browser from the
Texinfo 6.0 release; this has been changed since then in the
development sources.
Please email bug-texinfo@HIDDEN with any suggestions that could be
useful for the Texinfo project.
Eli Zaretskii asked me to file this bug report. I emailed
bug-gnu-emacs because M-x report-emacs-bug isn't set up to send emails
for me.
Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN From: help-debbugs@HIDDEN (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123@HIDDEN> Subject: bug#21206: Acknowledgement (Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual) Message-ID: <handler.21206.B.143895046626142.ack <at> debbugs.gnu.org> References: <CAKPWYQ3XCzt39mNEOsFRTUGsdfGFAvtYM=ShnbDzDJo3Ff8vvQ@HIDDEN> X-Gnu-PR-Message: ack 21206 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 21206 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:28:03 +0000 Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received. Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please send it to 21206 <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Please do not send mail to help-debbugs@HIDDEN unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. --=20 21206: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D21206 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@HIDDEN with problems
Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2019 22:33:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 29 18:33:37 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iEhl3-0002wS-HP for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:33:37 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f170.google.com ([209.85.215.170]:40131) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <stefankangas@HIDDEN>) id 1iEhl1-0002wB-Tm for control <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:33:36 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f170.google.com with SMTP id d26so789070pgl.7 for <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 15:33:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=qO9tsRLtu0T+gXY5T091LCrJhXVVicxmhyc+rlLOGNM=; b=BK+JWs6BChQwRIU78QUCbZA8HbkGgrwgZDrtVGD6jhOMLYfeL7fjqQ3FVpweodGuCA pemku+WMfYO06OQJyG4VCvxvzIGeO7NJvlciK8Mqb1c7en59C0puUJsIoY1qi3e+BKHv K00dIx3au9WZ3hlO7z9geVOg3BTF2cyfEhvyxeQQ8KxsACHGJpUzSGO3KYQVjm1R1Ed6 a1Qk7E+t7/sw1gA186JmBhd9pRCjzux3h/mywF6U+7lDyReGWF92Tpe60xu37twAueRJ xX1D9ZaLWnLSQP7d448+MGFzgTLRvF8/rjYycfjXrBdHtWkVu2afP/17EuQEw047P8O5 f8Qg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUe17qJ5HrcFkKPf0Y/NFpnrwEHNVmN2jxfdvhd3fnXFkAyEx05 kGLS0vGIRAR11mYvfltU7Ur3A3HLtqtUCXWzrEw/mBJrtbo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyuAWU+aU3J7RrcXSjN17FDSXHs0XHNNSy8vpXEu2DYaIDb8VP3ZClA3nKKz2We4llbmlQPwXkObbNpSjIY1qM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:1150:: with SMTP id d16mr23900488pje.2.1569796409911; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 15:33:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 00:33:19 +0200 Message-ID: <CADwFkm=WKc=ZeenTTGEJP7RSdYRnCR4wAWO9VE7Ayw56CgY+yA@HIDDEN> Subject: To: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: severity 21206 wishlist thanks Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stefankangas[at]gmail.com) -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.215.170 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different 2.0 BLANK_SUBJECT Subject is present but empty X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) severity 21206 wishlist thanks
GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham,
1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd,
1994-97 Ian Jackson.