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25.0.50; Please add cl-constantly function from Common Lisp

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: Mark Karpov <markkarpov@HIDDEN>; Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
bug marked as fixed in version 29.1, send any further explanations to 21584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Mark Karpov <markkarpov@HIDDEN> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

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Mark Karpov <markkarpov@HIDDEN> writes:

> In Common Lisp there is =E2=80=98constantly=E2=80=99 function:
>
>   http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_cons_1.htm
>
> which creates new function without side-effects that takes any number of
> arguments and always returns specified value.
>
> For some reason =E2=80=98cl-lib=E2=80=99 doesn't provide =E2=80=98cl-cons=
tantly=E2=80=99, so I guess it
> should exist in pure Emacs Lisp under different name.

I've now added `cl-constantly' to Emacs 29.

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  > I thought we weren't adding unnamespaced functions anymore.

For a general-purpose useful function, such as this one, that is 
the way to add it -- if we are going to add it.


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>   > > Maybe we can add 'constantly' to Emacs outside the cl package.
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> Yes.
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> What file to put it in is a detail I am not addressing.

I thought we weren't adding unnamespaced functions anymore.


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  > > Maybe we can add 'constantly' to Emacs outside the cl package.

  > Do you mean as a standard documented function

Yes.

What file to put it in is a detail I am not addressing.

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Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> writes:

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> Maybe we can add 'constantly' to Emacs outside the cl package.

Do you mean as a standard documented function, in subr.el?  Or maybe in
subr-x.el?

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[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
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Maybe we can add 'constantly' to Emacs outside the cl package.

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In Common Lisp there is =E2=80=98constantly=E2=80=99 function:

  http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_cons_1.htm

which creates new function without side-effects that takes any number of
arguments and always returns specified value.

For some reason =E2=80=98cl-lib=E2=80=99 doesn't provide =E2=80=98cl-consta=
ntly=E2=80=99, so I guess it
should exist in pure Emacs Lisp under different name. However, I
couldn't find such a function, so I ask you to tell me name of function
that word like =E2=80=98constantly=E2=80=99 in Emacs Lisp or add =E2=80=98c=
l-constantly=E2=80=99 in
=E2=80=98cl-lib=E2=80=99 in Emacs 25.



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