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24.3; Eshell not using stderr

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From: Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; Eshell not using stderr
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 12:23:58 +0000

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Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and

the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe

starting from `emacs -Q':


Starting from emacs -Q

go into eshell (M-x eshell)

executing the following c++ program:


#include <iostream>


int main()

{

   std::cerr << "ERROR\n";

   std::cout << "OUTPUT\n";


}


provides the following output:


~ $ ./a.out 2> /dev/null

ERROR

OUTPUT


From which it seems that eshell ignores stderr and sends everything to
stdout



If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,

please include the output from the following gdb commands:

`bt full' and `xbacktrace'.

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In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7)

of 2014-03-07 on lamiak, modified by Debian

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Message #8 received at 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#21605: 24.3; Eshell not using stderr
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 14:26:21 +0200

Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Starting from emacs -Q
> go into eshell (M-x eshell)
> executing the following c++ program: 
> #include <iostream>
> int main()
> {
>    std::cerr << "ERROR\n";
>    std::cout << "OUTPUT\n";
> }
> provides the following output:
> ~ $ ./a.out 2> /dev/null
> ERROR
> OUTPUT
> From which it seems that eshell ignores stderr and sends everything to stdout

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

This seems to be the case in Emacs 29, too, but I'm not sure whether
this is by design or not.  I've added Jim to the CCs; perhaps he has
some input here.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #11 received at 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21605: 24.3; Eshell not using stderr
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 19:14:46 -0700

On 5/12/2022 5:26 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> This seems to be the case in Emacs 29, too, but I'm not sure whether
> this is by design or not.  I've added Jim to the CCs; perhaps he has
> some input here.

I think this is just a missing feature, partly due to the fact that the 
redirection operators don't let you redirect a specific fd. That's in 
the "Bugs and Ideas" section of the Eshell manual though:

  Support ‘2>&1’ and ‘>&’ and ‘2>’ and ‘|&’

    The syntax table for parsing these should be customizable, such that
    the user could change it to use rc syntax: ‘>[2=1]’.

Doing that is probably the hardest part. The other bit that would need 
to be fixed is (I think) to modify `eshell-gather-process-output' to use 
`make-process' instead of `start-file-process', and then give it a 
:stderr argument so that Emacs doesn't write both stdout and stderr to a 
single temp buffer.

I agree that this would definitely be nice to have though.

Message #14 received at 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#21605: 24.3; Eshell not using stderr
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 14:38:23 +0200

Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> writes:

> I think this is just a missing feature, partly due to the fact that
> the redirection operators don't let you redirect a specific fd. That's
> in the "Bugs and Ideas" section of the Eshell manual though:
>
>   Support ‘2>&1’ and ‘>&’ and ‘2>’ and ‘|&’
>
>     The syntax table for parsing these should be customizable, such that
>     the user could change it to use rc syntax: ‘>[2=1]’.
>
> Doing that is probably the hardest part. The other bit that would need
> to be fixed is (I think) to modify `eshell-gather-process-output' to
> use `make-process' instead of `start-file-process', and then give it a
> :stderr argument so that Emacs doesn't write both stdout and stderr to
> a single temp buffer.

I see; thanks.

> I agree that this would definitely be nice to have though.

Yup.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #17 received at 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#21605: [PATCH] 24.3; Eshell not using stderr
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 20:29:22 -0700

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On 5/13/2022 5:38 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> I agree that this would definitely be nice to have though.
> 
> Yup.

And here's a patch series. It's a bit long, so I'll summarize the changes.

The first patch just adds docs/tests for the existing code, plus a bit 
of code cleanup. It also fixes a very small edge case I stumbled upon, 
where "echo foo >a >b >a" only writes to "a". That was just a logic bug 
in 'eshell-set-output-handle'.

The second patch enhances 'eshell-interactive-output-p' so that it can 
check just stdout (or stderr) for interactivity, or all. This is 
technically a behavior change in some functions that call this, but I 
looked through all of them, and I think the new behavior makes more 
sense. This is really just laying the groundwork for the final patch in 
the series though.

The third patch adds all the parsing and command handling for various 
new kinds of redirect operators, like '&>', '2>&1', and '|&'.

The fourth patch moves some internal Eshell process bookkeeping onto the 
process objects. That way, we can reuse this code when making a pipe 
process. I also added some more tests for the existing code (this time 
just for external process handling).

The final patch fixes the actual issue described in this bug. When 
creating an external process, it checks whether stdout and stderr go to 
different places. If so, it makes a pipe process to monitor stderr and 
routes everything as appropriate.

[0001-Simplify-Eshell-handle-functions-and-add-tests-docum.patch (text/plain, attachment)]

[0002-Allow-checking-specific-Eshell-handles-for-interacti.patch (text/plain, attachment)]

[0003-Add-support-for-more-kinds-of-redirect-operators-in-.patch (text/plain, attachment)]

[0004-Put-Eshell-s-bookkeeping-data-for-external-processes.patch (text/plain, attachment)]

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Message #20 received at 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#21605: [PATCH] 24.3; Eshell not using stderr
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 12:31:01 +0200

Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> writes:

> And here's a patch series. It's a bit long, so I'll summarize the changes.

I had a quick look-through, and it makes sense to me, so go ahead and
push if you want.

Message #23 received at 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 21605 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#21605: [PATCH] 24.3; Eshell not using stderr
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 21:25:07 -0700

On 8/30/2022 3:31 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> And here's a patch series. It's a bit long, so I'll summarize the changes.
> 
> I had a quick look-through, and it makes sense to me, so go ahead and
> push if you want.

Thanks for taking a look. Since it's a fairly big set of changes, I'll 
give it a couple days in case anyone has any concerns, but assuming no 
one does, I'll just merge it then.

Message #28 received at 21605-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 21605-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Nikolas De Giorgis <bznein <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#21605: [PATCH] 24.3; Eshell not using stderr
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2022 16:05:08 -0700

On 8/30/2022 9:25 PM, Jim Porter wrote:
> Thanks for taking a look. Since it's a fairly big set of changes, I'll 
> give it a couple days in case anyone has any concerns, but assuming no 
> one does, I'll just merge it then.

Merged as f07505d1ecf15ca9f6e6461e042092ceee96cc25. Closing this bug.

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