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I am running emacs from a text ssh session.

% emacs -Q
M-x server-start RET
M-x shell RET
% touch foo
% emacsclient foo
C-x b RET                  (switch back to shell buffer)
M-x comint-stop-subjob RET

I expected this to background the emacsclient process within the shell
window.  But it causes all of emacs to disappear from the screen, back
to the original shell prompt that launched emacs, where the emacs
process appears to have hung and can only be killed with C-c.



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Ed Avis wrote:

> I am running emacs from a text ssh session.
>
> % emacs -Q
> M-x server-start RET
> M-x shell RET
> % touch foo
> % emacsclient foo
> C-x b RET                  (switch back to shell buffer)
> M-x comint-stop-subjob RET
>
> I expected this to background the emacsclient process within the shell
> window. 

It sends SIGSTOP.

I know this isn't very helpful, but the only thing I can think to say is
"don't do that". Either use the normal C-x C-f to open a file, or if you
must call emacsclient from within a shell inside Emacs (?!), use the
--no-wait option.




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>
> I expected this to background the emacsclient process within the shell
> window.  But it causes all of emacs to disappear from the screen, back
> to the original shell prompt that launched emacs, where the emacs
> process appears to have hung and can only be killed with C-c.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got little response at
the time.)

I tried this in Emacs 25.1 (and Emacs 28), but was unable to reproduce
the problem.  Are you still seeing this issue in newer Emacs versions?

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Ed Avis <ed.avis@HIDDEN> writes:

> Following the original recipe I'm seeing a slightly different crash.  Emacs doesn't
> exit all the way back to the original shell prompt but hangs instead.  The output
> left on the screen looks fun:
>
> Waiting for Emacs...  M-x c o m i n t - s t o p - s u b j o b RET 
> [1]+  Stopped                 emacsclient foo
> eda@qmaw-linux05 ~ $
> -UUU:**--F1  *shell*        Bot L16838  (Shell:run)
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Hm...  well, isn't that back to the original shell prompt?  (In the
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Ed Avis <ed.avis@HIDDEN> writes:

> I meant that originally, on killing the emacsclient process, the whole emacs
> process would kaboom.  Now the emacs process seems to hang instead of exiting
> altogether, but it's just as bad an outcome.

The outer Emacs process doesn't seem to hang for me?  The inner Emacs
process is stopped, and the outer process works as normal, as far as I
can tell?

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For me the whole emacs process (outer one) hangs.  Normal Emacs keystrokes =
like C-g have no effect and it doesn't update the screen (so pressing Enter=
 adds a blank line and scrolls up the whole screen).  I have to kill(1) it.

Since you've also followed the recipe and not seen the same result, I will =
check again carefully that there isn't some hidden step or configuration th=
at triggers it.  I was running under GNU screen, which might have affected =
it somehow.

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I've gone back to the original recipe, with no GNU screen and no .bashrc fi=
le to set environment variables.  It's as I described it back in 2015:

I am running emacs from a text ssh session.

% emacs -Q
M-x server-start RET
M-x shell RET
% touch foo
% emacsclient foo
C-x b RET                  (switch back to shell buffer)
M-x comint-stop-subjob RET

I expected this to background the emacsclient process within the shell
window.  But it causes all of emacs to disappear from the screen, back
to the original shell prompt that launched emacs, where the emacs
process appears to have hung and can only be killed with C-c.

This is emacs-27.1 running on RHEL 8.4.  The build was originally derived f=
rom Fedora Linux but I rebuilt it on RHEL.  Do you want me to try a complet=
ely vanilla build from the tarball?

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Ed Avis <ed.avis@HIDDEN> writes:

> I've gone back to the original recipe, with no GNU screen and no
> .bashrc file to set environment variables.  It's as I described it
> back in 2015:
>
> I am running emacs from a text ssh session.
>
> % emacs -Q
> M-x server-start RET
> M-x shell RET
> % touch foo
> % emacsclient foo
> C-x b RET                  (switch back to shell buffer)
> M-x comint-stop-subjob RET

Ah -- I was running the outer Emacs as a graphical Emacs.  With "emacs
-Q -nw" I can reproduce the problem.

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