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On 2016-02-16 15:27 +0800, Leo Liu wrote:
> The bug is still there however I can only reproduce this with a local
> setup involving Erlang + wrangler + emacs (24.5, 25.0.91).
I have found a recipe to partially reproduce the bug.
1. start emacs -Q
2. define a command
(defun test ()
(interactive)
(shell-command (format "echo 'test' >> %s" buffer-file-name))
(revert-buffer nil t t))
3. Open a file, mark an active region and M-x test
You should observe the mark stay active. The active region goes off
after 2 seconds. In emacs 24.5 the mark will go off immediately. With my
local setup the active region stays on. Thus I am calling this recipe
``partial''.
I wonder if it helps understand the issue.
Leo
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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) On 2016-02-16 18:06 +1100, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > That was two weeks ago... is this OK now? Sorry there is a Spring Festival break. The bug is still there however I can only reproduce this with a local setup involving Erlang + wrangler + emacs (24.5, 25.0.91). I need time to find a recipe to reproduce it. Cheers, Leo
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Full text available.Received: (at 22338) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2016 07:07:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 16 02:07:06 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aVZiz-0007PW-WA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 02:07:06 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58498) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1aVZiy-0007PO-KK for 22338 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 02:07:04 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1aVZia-00073k-Bv; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:06:41 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Leo Liu <sdl.web@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#22338: 25.0.50; deactivate-mark regression References: <m1si26yd6u.fsf@HIDDEN> <8337tyextd.fsf@HIDDEN> <m27fj3xmsv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y4bi9ap3.fsf@HIDDEN> <m260y8y9qn.fsf@HIDDEN> <834mds1c52.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2io27yjt0.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 18:06:36 +1100 In-Reply-To: <m2io27yjt0.fsf@HIDDEN> (Leo Liu's message of "Tue, 02 Feb 2016 09:36:59 +0800") Message-ID: <87twl93zib.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aVZia-00073k-Bv X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@HIDDEN MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456211201.50667@nQ+VaWA/xRULZa07U3fOTA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22338 Cc: 22338 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Leo Liu <sdl.web@HIDDEN> writes: > On 2016-02-01 21:08 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> This is exactly what I did, and your observations now match mine. >> >> Do you still think the mark should be deactivated in that single case, >> or can we conclude that the problem is no longer significant and close >> this bug? >> >> Thanks. > > Yes I think that's the right thing to do. Will close it in a few days. That was two weeks ago... is this OK now? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) On 2016-02-01 21:08 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > This is exactly what I did, and your observations now match mine. > > Do you still think the mark should be deactivated in that single case, > or can we conclude that the problem is no longer significant and close > this bug? > > Thanks. Yes I think that's the right thing to do. Will close it in a few days. Thanks, Leo.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#22338; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 22338) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2016 19:09:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 01 14:09:30 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45471 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aQJqs-0003g3-3G for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 14:09:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aQJqr-0003fs-4O for 22338 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 14:09:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aQJqi-0001Dw-VK for 22338 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 14:09:24 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39178) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aQJqi-0001Ds-Ry; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 14:09:20 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1333 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aQJqi-0001Rs-5S; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 14:09:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 21:08:57 +0200 Message-Id: <834mds1c52.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Leo Liu <sdl.web@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <m260y8y9qn.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Leo Liu on Mon, 01 Feb 2016 19:02:08 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#22338: 25.0.50; deactivate-mark regression References: <m1si26yd6u.fsf@HIDDEN> <8337tyextd.fsf@HIDDEN> <m27fj3xmsv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y4bi9ap3.fsf@HIDDEN> <m260y8y9qn.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22338 Cc: 22338 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) > From: Leo Liu <sdl.web@HIDDEN> > Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 19:02:08 +0800 > > I am now using GNU Emacs 25.0.90 built on 2016-01-31 and the problem > seems getting better. My current observation is this (revert-buffer nil > t t) only keeps the active mark if the file has not changed at all but > deactivates it otherwise. I modified the file by appending a line to it > using shell command. This is exactly what I did, and your observations now match mine. Do you still think the mark should be deactivated in that single case, or can we conclude that the problem is no longer significant and close this bug? Thanks.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#22338; Package emacs.
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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) On 2016-01-21 18:08 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Would you mind showing a more detailed recipe, including the file you > used and the exact procedure to change the file behind Emacs's back? > Also, how do you check that the mark is still active after the revert? > I feel there are some fine details that are different between our > attempts to reproduce the issue, because I cannot reproduce it no > matter what I do. There's some factor here that I don't get. I hope > it's not some stupid oversight on my part. I am now using GNU Emacs 25.0.90 built on 2016-01-31 and the problem seems getting better. My current observation is this (revert-buffer nil t t) only keeps the active mark if the file has not changed at all but deactivates it otherwise. I modified the file by appending a line to it using shell command. > Well, if we are talking about users, why would a user invoke > revert-buffer in such a strange way? And if the region is active, but > not highlighted, doesn't "C-x C-x" show it highlighted? Obviously not directly. It can be part of a hook. For example I am using a package to refactor erlang which writes to disk and send emacs the list of files that may have changed. HTH, Leo
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Full text available.Received: (at 22338) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2016 16:08:54 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 21 11:08:54 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aMHn4-0000JG-Ju for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:08:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aMHn2-0000J3-5X for 22338 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:08:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aMHms-0004KK-TM for 22338 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:08:47 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47616) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aMHms-0004KG-Pi; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:08:42 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4344 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aMHms-000818-3I; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:08:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:56 +0200 Message-Id: <83y4bi9ap3.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Leo Liu <sdl.web@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <m27fj3xmsv.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Leo Liu on Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:13:36 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#22338: 25.0.50; deactivate-mark regression References: <m1si26yd6u.fsf@HIDDEN> <8337tyextd.fsf@HIDDEN> <m27fj3xmsv.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22338 Cc: 22338 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Leo Liu <sdl.web@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:13:36 +0800 > > How did you revert? C-x C-v or eval (revert-buffer nil t t)? The latter, of course. > For me the latter always keeps the region active in 25.0.50 (built > on 02 Jan 2016). My build is more current, but I don't think anything's changed since Jan 2. Would you mind showing a more detailed recipe, including the file you used and the exact procedure to change the file behind Emacs's back? Also, how do you check that the mark is still active after the revert? I feel there are some fine details that are different between our attempts to reproduce the issue, because I cannot reproduce it no matter what I do. There's some factor here that I don't get. I hope it's not some stupid oversight on my part. > The trouble is now users have no idea what the active region is. For > example I've experienced reverts that change the active region to cover > nearly the whole buffer. Well, if we are talking about users, why would a user invoke revert-buffer in such a strange way? And if the region is active, but not highlighted, doesn't "C-x C-x" show it highlighted? Anyway, let's delay this discussion until we understand what exactly is needed to reproduce the issue. Thanks.
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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On 2016-01-16 10:24 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > When I try this with different files and different changes actually > made to the file behind Emacs's back, I see the region deactivate > every time I revert and the file on disk was really changed. Maybe it > doesn't always deactivate the region, but it certainly doesn't always > keep it active, except when the file on disk didn't change at all. > > Do you really see the region remain active every revert, no matter > what the changes to the file on disk? Can you show a detailed recipe > for that? > > Anyway, since the documentation never says what will happen with the > region, I tend to consider this behavior unspecified: why should Lisp > programs expect anything specific to happen to the region during a > revert? How did you revert? C-x C-v or eval (revert-buffer nil t t)? For me the latter always keeps the region active in 25.0.50 (built on 02 Jan 2016). >> The trouble is if the file has changed on disk (e.g. by another process >> such as vim), the mark is still active after the revert. > > Why is that trouble? > > Thanks. The trouble is now users have no idea what the active region is. For example I've experienced reverts that change the active region to cover nearly the whole buffer. The sane behaviour seems to have the active region off after revert just like in emacs 24.x. Leo
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