GNU bug report logs - #22670
Upgrading Emacs Packages and Pay What You Want

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From: Joshua Branson <jbranson <at> setyourwaypoint.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Upgrading Emacs Packages and Pay What You Want
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 17:54:22 -0500

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Hello,

With the recent news of the Magit maintainer taking a well deserved
break from emacs hacking, I suggest that Emacs's package management
implements a pay what you want/can model.  Essentially, is it possible
to create a pay-what-you-want.el package, that will store your payment
credentials, and allow users to seamlessly give tiny donations to emacs
developers on certain updates: ie: a new version of a package came out
(Gnus 10.0), or emacs now implements threads, or emacs can now
understand mental commands?  I envision this package working as follows
(but by no means am I dictating how it has to work): When these
important milestones are reached, emacs would prompt you before
downloading the package to pay what you want for these updates.

Kickstarter, Indegogo, humble Indie Bundle, etc, have all proven that
pay what you want can be successful, and this change would hopefully
encourage users to donate more to emacs development, which in turn would
foster continued improvements to Emacs (and possibly GNU and the FSF).

P.S.  Perhaps GNU Guix could do the same thing, and I also suggest that
the documents at GNU.org also should be pay what you want.

-- 
<hr>
Joshua Branson
WayPoint
Web Developer
jbranso.me
Sent From Emacs
[[https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/]]

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From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Joshua Branson <jbranson <at> setyourwaypoint.com>
Cc: 22670 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22670: Upgrading Emacs Packages and Pay What You Want
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:44:18 -0500

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  >   Essentially, is it possible
  > to create a pay-what-you-want.el package, that will store your payment
  > credentials, and allow users to seamlessly give tiny donations to emacs
  > developers on certain updates: ie: a new version of a package came out
  > (Gnus 10.0), or emacs now implements threads, or emacs can now
  > understand mental commands?  I envision this package working as follows
  > (but by no means am I dictating how it has to work): When these
  > important milestones are reached, emacs would prompt you before
  > downloading the package to pay what you want for these updates.

It's a fine idea.  The hard part is how to do the payments.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.

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From: Joshua Branson <jbranson <at> setyourwaypoint.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 22670 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22670: Upgrading Emacs Packages and Pay What You Want
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 18:28:05 -0500

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Thanks for the speedy response!

Bitcoin is one of the best digital privacy respecting options.  Creating
a bitcoin client written in emacs lisp or guile, is probably the best
initial way to implement this feature request whilst respecting a user's
privacy.  Though that may not be an easy task.

Also the same should be true for all documentation on
"[[https://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.html]]".  May I suggest to you
Dr. Stallman that all documentation on gnu should be pay what you
want/can?  If it is using CiviCRM, then it integrating a payment option
that prompts users to pay what they want when downloading documentation
should be easy.  GNU would also get more donations.

-- 
<hr>
Joshua Branson
WayPoint
Web Developer
jbranso.me
Sent From Emacs
[[https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/]]

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Message #14 received at 22670 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Joshua Branson <jbranson <at> setyourwaypoint.com>
Cc: 22670 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22670: Upgrading Emacs Packages and Pay What You Want
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:47:42 -0500

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > Bitcoin is one of the best digital privacy respecting options.

Actually, bitcoin is not anonymous.  But we don't have to insist on
anonymous payment for this.  Accepting bitcoin is ok.

The FSF has been thinking about giving downloaders an option to donate.
Actually implementing it is not so easy.  We're looking for people to help
us do this and other things.  Does anyone want to volunteer?

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.

Message #17 received at 22670 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Joshua Branson <jbranson <at> setyourwaypoint.com>
Cc: 22670 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22670: Upgrading Emacs Packages and Pay What You Want
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 14:53:11 +0200

Joshua Branson <jbranson <at> setyourwaypoint.com> writes:

> With the recent news of the Magit maintainer taking a well deserved
> break from emacs hacking, I suggest that Emacs's package management
> implements a pay what you want/can model.

This may or may not be a good idea, but I think it's a bit out of scope
for the issue tracker, so I'm closing this.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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