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#22921
25.1.50; Wishlist: There should be a new URL interface
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Reported by: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 13:46:02 UTC
Severity: wishlist
Merged with 37577
Found in versions 25.1.50, 27.0.50
Done: Adam Sjøgren <asjo <at> koldfront.dk>
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The current interfaces to the URL library aren't very handy. It's
`url-retrieve' and `url-retrieve-synchronously'. The main problem is
that they're inconsistent and difficult to interact with.
For instance, most of the "inputs" to the functions are dynamically
bound specially variables like `url-request-method', and that sucks.
The buffers that are returned are inconsistent based on the URL
method -- HTTP buffers come with the headers first, while ftp buffers do
not.
So: `with-url-buffer'.
Typical usage would be
(with-url-buffer ("https://fsf.org"
:verbose t
:request-method "POST"
:timeout 10)
(do-stuff-with-the-result-here))
That is, the callback is in the form. There are no headers in the
buffer, and point is at point-min when the body is called. Headers are
accessed with a new form like `(url-header "date")', and the headers are
available in a buffer-local variable called `url-headers'.
Upon completion of the body form, the buffer is killed, unless a
parameter :inhibit-kill-buffer is given.
Synchronous and asynchronous operation looks identical, but synchronous
operation happens when you say :synchronous t.
Implementation-wise, this happens with lexical bindings switched on, and
the body form is turned into a closure that's evaluated upon completion.
`with-url-buffer' will not support the exotic, never-actually-used
protocols like news:, irc:, imap:, etc, but only http:, https:, ftp:
and file:.
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Message #10 received at 22921 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
> So: `with-url-buffer'.
What's the current status of your with-fetched-url branch? Is it
ready to merge into master? It would be nice to get it in so that we
can start playing around with it.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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Message #13 received at 22921 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:
> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
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>> So: `with-url-buffer'.
>
> What's the current status of your with-fetched-url branch? Is it
> ready to merge into master? It would be nice to get it in so that we
> can start playing around with it.
It should be (more or less) ready to go. I've been meaning to merge it
ever since Emacs 28 started, but I haven't found time yet.
If I remember, there may be some quirks with certain auth schemes that
needs fixing, but that can be done after the merge. But I need to block
out, say, a week where I can respond to bug reports in a speedy manner,
and I haven't found that week yet...
But it'll happen sometime within a month or to.
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Message #16 received at 22921 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
>> What's the current status of your with-fetched-url branch? Is it
>> ready to merge into master? It would be nice to get it in so that we
>> can start playing around with it.
>
> It should be (more or less) ready to go. I've been meaning to merge it
> ever since Emacs 28 started, but I haven't found time yet.
Hmm, maybe we can have it in Emacs 29? :-)
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Message #19 received at 22921 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
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>>> What's the current status of your with-fetched-url branch? Is it
>>> ready to merge into master? It would be nice to get it in so that we
>>> can start playing around with it.
>>
>> It should be (more or less) ready to go. I've been meaning to merge it
>> ever since Emacs 28 started, but I haven't found time yet.
>
> Hmm, maybe we can have it in Emacs 29? :-)
:-)
It got put on the back burner because I started thinking about the proxy
stuff that url.el supports but I hadn't implemented for with-url yet.
Because I think that's the wrong level to do it. Emacs should support a
general network proxy thing, that would allow all network connections to
be proxied. (Or selectively.)
And the more I looked at this, the more apparently it became that Emacs'
network stuff should just be totally reimplemented, because it's so full
of... oddnesses geared toward processes. And processes and network
connections are very different things.
So it's a Big Project. :-/
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