Received: (at 22947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2016 16:10:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 12 11:10:33 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46411 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aem7d-00039l-5L for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:10:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58366) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aem7c-00039Z-9P for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:10:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aem7W-0000p0-04 for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:10:26 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aem7Q-0000oW-VH; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:10:20 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2060 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aem7Q-0006Zw-4z; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:10:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 18:09:47 +0200 Message-Id: <83ziu3fzjo.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <bcc503b1-1ee7-4c9b-e9a0-150af0fbbafe@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:46:50 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#22947: 25.0.92; xref-find-definitions fails for Perl & etags References: <22239.6546.544495.576771@HIDDEN> <88256367-3f1d-6dda-a509-d89e3c8e6c28@HIDDEN> <22239.36324.478948.721025@HIDDEN> <83y49qlbam.fsf@HIDDEN> <272376b7-ad78-a16d-ceeb-d7408fb59fdb@HIDDEN> <83oaaml57e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2823a513-de6a-2c99-fc06-825efb1f0be0@HIDDEN> <83io0ul2vb.fsf@HIDDEN> <2c9b9fe9-4df0-1ba2-123d-ab4743bf49ca@HIDDEN> <83ziu5jv92.fsf@HIDDEN> <c60804f4-1b9b-4661-b4b9-e1c567587fb0@HIDDEN> <83egbhjc1v.fsf@HIDDEN> <7471846c-3ea0-f05f-23b5-deec649c89d5@HIDDEN> <83lh5ogn2h.fsf@HIDDEN> <59e05a4c-2197-304a-8da5-d9c13f9a9077@HIDDEN> <834mcbho46.fsf@HIDDEN> <bcc503b1-1ee7-4c9b-e9a0-150af0fbbafe@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22947 Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:46:50 +0200 > > OK, I'm going to go file that separate feature request now. Thanks.
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Full text available.Received: (at 22947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2016 12:34:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 12 07:34:30 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45798 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aeikY-0006U4-2T for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:34:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47577) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeikW-0006Ts-Ig for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:34:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeikQ-0002cb-Mc for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:34:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42092) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeikM-0002c1-RH; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:34:18 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1555 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeikM-0001Om-2k; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:34:18 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:33:45 +0200 Message-Id: <834mcbho46.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <59e05a4c-2197-304a-8da5-d9c13f9a9077@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:10:52 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#22947: 25.0.92; xref-find-definitions fails for Perl & etags References: <22239.6546.544495.576771@HIDDEN> <88256367-3f1d-6dda-a509-d89e3c8e6c28@HIDDEN> <22239.36324.478948.721025@HIDDEN> <83y49qlbam.fsf@HIDDEN> <272376b7-ad78-a16d-ceeb-d7408fb59fdb@HIDDEN> <83oaaml57e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2823a513-de6a-2c99-fc06-825efb1f0be0@HIDDEN> <83io0ul2vb.fsf@HIDDEN> <2c9b9fe9-4df0-1ba2-123d-ab4743bf49ca@HIDDEN> <83ziu5jv92.fsf@HIDDEN> <c60804f4-1b9b-4661-b4b9-e1c567587fb0@HIDDEN> <83egbhjc1v.fsf@HIDDEN> <7471846c-3ea0-f05f-23b5-deec649c89d5@HIDDEN> <83lh5ogn2h.fsf@HIDDEN> <59e05a4c-2197-304a-8da5-d9c13f9a9077@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22947 Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:10:52 +0200 > > Just to be clear: by "new feature" here, you mean outputting both > qualified and unqualified tags for C++, ObjC, Java, and Perl? No, all languages that have a notion of a class-qualified name.
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On 03/12/2016 09:41 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> I don't think this implies any considerable amount of work in etags >> either. I could be wrong, of course. > > I just said that etags never had these features, so we are talking > about an enhancement, not a bugfix. "features", multiple? > No, I'm just saying this is a new feature whose implementation costs > are unknown to me at this point. Just to be clear: by "new feature" here, you mean outputting both qualified and unqualified tags for C++, ObjC, Java, and Perl? If so, fair enough. >> If you've made a deliberate choice, it doesn't seem like a patch from a >> volunteer that would make a different choice is likely to be accepted. > > I've made no choices, except not to work on this today. I don't > understand why you think I'm against adding such a feature, if done > cleanly. It's almost a reason to take offense, since I never said > anything that could be interpreted as such an intent. You've made an argument that it would somehow imply supporting qualified tags for all the languages, and never acknowledged the validity of my response. I'm not sure I understand your position anymore. But anyway, there's a careful "if" in my previous message.
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Full text available.Received: (at 22947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2016 07:42:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 12 02:42:29 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45671 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aeeBw-0006LE-NM for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 02:42:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56167) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeeBv-0006L0-81 for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 02:42:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeeBp-00041p-2O for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 02:42:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeeBl-000406-3n; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 02:42:17 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4771 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeeBk-0005dN-4h; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 02:42:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:41:42 +0200 Message-Id: <83lh5ogn2h.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <7471846c-3ea0-f05f-23b5-deec649c89d5@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:08:13 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#22947: 25.0.92; xref-find-definitions fails for Perl & etags References: <22239.6546.544495.576771@HIDDEN> <88256367-3f1d-6dda-a509-d89e3c8e6c28@HIDDEN> <22239.36324.478948.721025@HIDDEN> <83y49qlbam.fsf@HIDDEN> <272376b7-ad78-a16d-ceeb-d7408fb59fdb@HIDDEN> <83oaaml57e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2823a513-de6a-2c99-fc06-825efb1f0be0@HIDDEN> <83io0ul2vb.fsf@HIDDEN> <2c9b9fe9-4df0-1ba2-123d-ab4743bf49ca@HIDDEN> <83ziu5jv92.fsf@HIDDEN> <c60804f4-1b9b-4661-b4b9-e1c567587fb0@HIDDEN> <83egbhjc1v.fsf@HIDDEN> <7471846c-3ea0-f05f-23b5-deec649c89d5@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22947 Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:08:13 +0200 > > On 03/11/2016 04:59 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I said "etags", not "emacs". > > I don't think this implies any considerable amount of work in etags > either. I could be wrong, of course. I just said that etags never had these features, so we are talking about an enhancement, not a bugfix. > >> We can perfectly well choose to support this feature only for a few > >> languages. It's better than nothing. > > > > I'm not sure "better than nothing" is good enough. > > I'm not buying the argument that doing the right thing is somehow > undesirable because we can't afford to do the perfect thing right now. I'm not selling it. > > Anyway, I don't really understand what we are arguing about. > > I'm arguing that -Q should output both qualified and unqualified tags, > so that the result is actually useful. > > You seem to be arguing towards -Q preserving the previous behavior of > the parser, _in certain languages_, no matter the usefulness of the > resulting tag files. No, I'm just saying this is a new feature whose implementation costs are unknown to me at this point. > >> Ultimately, it's your choice, of course. > > > > Volunteers are free to beat me to it, if they have an itch to scratch. > > If you've made a deliberate choice, it doesn't seem like a patch from a > volunteer that would make a different choice is likely to be accepted. I've made no choices, except not to work on this today. I don't understand why you think I'm against adding such a feature, if done cleanly. It's almost a reason to take offense, since I never said anything that could be interpreted as such an intent.
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I don't think this implies any considerable amount of work in etags either. I could be wrong, of course. >> And allowing the output of qualified+unqualified, in etags, doesn't seem >> like a huge job to me. > > For languages where qualified tags are already created, maybe. And it is those languages where I think the users would be served better by a different behavior. > (C-like languages might be not so easy, due to the state machines they > use.) But are we sure all languages do? I'm sorry, all languages do what? Use state machines, and thus are "not so easy"? >> We can perfectly well choose to support this feature only for a few >> languages. It's better than nothing. > > I'm not sure "better than nothing" is good enough. I'm not buying the argument that doing the right thing is somehow undesirable because we can't afford to do the perfect thing right now. Especially since the transition path from "good" to "perfect" is natural in this case (just add support for more languages later). This way, you won't have to change the semantics of -Q in future releases, or invent another flag that behaves similarly to -Q, "but better", and deal with having to document that -Q is not actually recommended for use. > Anyway, I don't really understand what we are arguing about. I'm arguing that -Q should output both qualified and unqualified tags, so that the result is actually useful. You seem to be arguing towards -Q preserving the previous behavior of the parser, _in certain languages_, no matter the usefulness of the resulting tag files. Apparently, to support some consumers of tag files that do it in a fashion we can't predict, and might somehow be inconvenienced if the "qualified-only" output is not one of the options. Is that correct? >> Here's the relevant excerpt from ctags's manpage: > > Thanks, but why do you think I don't have it installed? You might, or you might not. It was easier to quote directly. Does that excerpt not make sense to you? >> Ultimately, it's your choice, of course. > > Volunteers are free to beat me to it, if they have an itch to scratch. If you've made a deliberate choice, it doesn't seem like a patch from a volunteer that would make a different choice is likely to be accepted.
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Because otherwise > it worked for me. It works fine for me either way. > Yes, I see that now. But shouldn't it also work from other files? One reason why it might not work, is if the same method name is not recognized by the other file's syntax table as the symbol at point. For etags, we're basically calling (thing-at-point 'symbol). You can evaluate this form in any context, and see if it returns the method name you were trying to look up. If not, though, you can still press `C-u M-.' and type out the name of the method to look for (or even press M-n, see the default value inserted, and edit it), and press RET. This is not too different from the find-tag workflow. > I > find it very useful to type M-. on a Perl method name that appears in > documentation or in my notes, or to find a Perl definition mentioned in > a Javascript file comment (and vice versa). In general, it should work. Could you describe exactly what it is you tried (which file did you open, and where did you navigate before pressing `M-.'? did you press C-u?), so that we can reproduce it? > And many Perl programs have substantial C components. Am I to > understand that M-. between C and Elisp no longer works for Emacs? You can just from C to Elisp just like before. From Elisp to C - a bit tricker, since emacs-lisp-mode sets up an xref backend using find-func by default, not etags. But you can (add-hook 'emacs-lisp-mode-hook 'xref-etags-mode) to make it use etags as well.
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11 Mar 2016 13:08:32 -0500 > The new etags builds the table without package
qualifications, but > after "emacs -Q" and "M-x visit-tags-table", "M-."
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11 Mar 2016 13:08:32 -0500 > The new etags builds the table without package
qualifications, but > after "emacs -Q" and "M-x visit-tags-table", "M-."
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:34:12 +0200
> From: Bob Rogers <rogers@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:08:32 -0500
> The new etags builds the table without package qualifications, but
> after "emacs -Q" and "M-x visit-tags-table", "M-." still doesn't
> find either the parse_recipes or add_ingredient definitions.
Probably because you were not visiting a Perl file. Because otherwise
it worked for me.
Yes, I see that now. But shouldn't it also work from other files? I
find it very useful to type M-. on a Perl method name that appears in
documentation or in my notes, or to find a Perl definition mentioned in
a Javascript file comment (and vice versa).
And many Perl programs have substantial C components. Am I to
understand that M-. between C and Elisp no longer works for Emacs?
-- Bob
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Content preview: From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016
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> Sure; I will do so when I get home this evening. (If you could give me
> a quick recipe for fetching the right branch, it might speed things up;
> I'm still a Git beginner.)
git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git
followed by
git checkout emacs-25
Thank you; I wound up rebuilding the whole thing with revision 8b8a6ad.
The new etags builds the table without package qualifications, but after
"emacs -Q" and "M-x visit-tags-table", "M-." still doesn't find either
the parse_recipes or add_ingredient definitions. FWIW, the previous
version of emacs was able to find both add_ingredient definitions, but
not parse_recipes.
> Also, FWIW, I thought I should mention that M-x find-tag works
> correctly with the existing etags output . . .
Yes, but we are switching away of find-tag towards the xref commands.
The user interface, yes, but it seemed worthy of note that the find-tag
backend works with the original etags output . . .
-- Bob
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Full text available.Received: (at 22947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2016 14:59:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 11 09:59:46 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aeOXZ-0005f2-RV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:59:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeOXZ-0005eq-11 for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:59:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeOXO-0005iT-09 for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:59:39 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeOXJ-0005i6-5V; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:59:29 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3767 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeOXI-00010b-Eq; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:59:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:59:08 +0200 Message-Id: <83egbhjc1v.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <c60804f4-1b9b-4661-b4b9-e1c567587fb0@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:46:25 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#22947: 25.0.92; xref-find-definitions fails for Perl & etags References: <22239.6546.544495.576771@HIDDEN> <88256367-3f1d-6dda-a509-d89e3c8e6c28@HIDDEN> <22239.36324.478948.721025@HIDDEN> <83y49qlbam.fsf@HIDDEN> <272376b7-ad78-a16d-ceeb-d7408fb59fdb@HIDDEN> <83oaaml57e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2823a513-de6a-2c99-fc06-825efb1f0be0@HIDDEN> <83io0ul2vb.fsf@HIDDEN> <2c9b9fe9-4df0-1ba2-123d-ab4743bf49ca@HIDDEN> <83ziu5jv92.fsf@HIDDEN> <c60804f4-1b9b-4661-b4b9-e1c567587fb0@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22947 Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:46:25 +0200 > > On 03/11/2016 10:04 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Etags never had these features, so you are asking for enhancements. I > > suggest to file a separate wishlist bug report with these requests, > > and maybe Someone will implement them at some point. > > There's nothing to implement in Emacs, both of these scenarios should > work already. I said "etags", not "emacs". > And allowing the output of qualified+unqualified, in etags, doesn't seem > like a huge job to me. For languages where qualified tags are already created, maybe. (C-like languages might be not so easy, due to the state machines they use.) But are we sure all languages do? > > Note that adding such a feature would mean extending the generation of > > class-qualified names to all the languages which have a notion of a > > class or a package, so it's not a small job, and requires to have a > > good understanding of many languages. > > We can perfectly well choose to support this feature only for a few > languages. It's better than nothing. I'm not sure "better than nothing" is good enough. Anyway, I don't really understand what we are arguing about. > Here's the relevant excerpt from ctags's manpage: Thanks, but why do you think I don't have it installed? > Ultimately, it's your choice, of course. Volunteers are free to beat me to it, if they have an itch to scratch.
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I > suggest to file a separate wishlist bug report with these requests, > and maybe Someone will implement them at some point. There's nothing to implement in Emacs, both of these scenarios should work already. They just need the presence of qualified names in the tags table. And allowing the output of qualified+unqualified, in etags, doesn't seem like a huge job to me. > Note that adding such a feature would mean extending the generation of > class-qualified names to all the languages which have a notion of a > class or a package, so it's not a small job, and requires to have a > good understanding of many languages. We can perfectly well choose to support this feature only for a few languages. It's better than nothing. Here's the relevant excerpt from ctags's manpage: """ q Include an extra class-qualified tag entry for each tag which is a member of a class (for languages for which this information is extracted; currently C++, Eiffel, and Java). The actual form of the qualified tag depends upon the language from which the tag was derived (using a form that is most natural for how qualified calls are specified in the language). For C++, it is in the form "class::member"; for Eiffel and Java, it is in the form "class.member". This may allow easier location of a specific tags when multiple occurrences of a tag name occur in the tag file. Note, however, that this could potentially more than double the size of the tag file. """ > Personally, I'd like first to see if the current implementation of > etags + xref gives good results, before considering enhancements. > Without seeing user responses, we will never know how important these > features are. Ultimately, it's your choice, of course.
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Full text available.Received: (at 22947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2016 08:04:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 11 03:04:49 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aeI3x-0002XV-So for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:04:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49413) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeI3w-0002XI-8A for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:04:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeI3m-0000Hn-MH for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:04:38 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56517) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeI3j-0000HO-4a; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:04:31 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3038 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1aeI3i-0006Ub-3b; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:04:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:04:25 +0200 Message-Id: <83ziu5jv92.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <2c9b9fe9-4df0-1ba2-123d-ab4743bf49ca@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:45:39 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#22947: 25.0.92; xref-find-definitions fails for Perl & etags References: <22239.6546.544495.576771@HIDDEN> <88256367-3f1d-6dda-a509-d89e3c8e6c28@HIDDEN> <22239.36324.478948.721025@HIDDEN> <83y49qlbam.fsf@HIDDEN> <272376b7-ad78-a16d-ceeb-d7408fb59fdb@HIDDEN> <83oaaml57e.fsf@HIDDEN> <2823a513-de6a-2c99-fc06-825efb1f0be0@HIDDEN> <83io0ul2vb.fsf@HIDDEN> <2c9b9fe9-4df0-1ba2-123d-ab4743bf49ca@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22947 Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:45:39 +0200 > > On 03/10/2016 06:22 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Then users will not use that switch. And note that before these > > changes, etags would _always_ produce only qualified names. So the -Q > > switch provides a way to get the old behavior back. > > Honestly, I didn't use the "before" etags much. I did use 'ctags -e', > however. I imagine many users will be in a similar position. > > ctags has had the --extra=+q option for years (although it's worked only > for a few languages). So if we're asking for arguments, they should be > for why deviate, rather than why do the same, the latter being the > default choice. And yes, users do want those: > > https://github.com/universal-ctags/ctags/issues/787 > https://github.com/universal-ctags/ctags/issues/524 > > >> Do you expect the user to call 'etags' twice, with and without 'Q', and > >> append the outputs? > > > > No, I think qualified names are almost never useful, given the way > > TAGS tables are used in Emacs nowadays, so the -Q option is just a > > kind of "fire escape" for use cases that I think should never happen. > > > > If I'm wrong, then I'd like to see these use cases described, and we > > should then rethink the whole issue of qualified tag names. > > Here's a couple of scenarios: > > 1. Suppose there are a lot of classes that define the method bar. But I > know which class I'm interested in. So I type C-u M-., type > My::Class#bar, and jump to it straight away (typing it with completion > might be rather quick). If the tags file contains only unqualified > entries, I'm forced to see the whole list of methods with this name in > all classes, use isearch to go to the desired entry, press RET to jump > to it, and then do something about the xref window (I didn't need to see > the whole list in the first place, and it's taking up valuable screen > estate). More keypresses and micromanagement this way. > > 2. Suppose I want to see all methods defined by the class Foo. I can > call xref-find-apropos, type in the class name, and if these is a fully > qualified entry for each of its methods in the tags table, I'll see them > all in the list. Or I want to see all methods in a family of classes > (unified by a namespace, or a common word in the name). Having all > qualified names listed would facilitate this kind of exploration. > > Users shouldn't have to give up having functional xref-find-definitions > for these features. Etags never had these features, so you are asking for enhancements. I suggest to file a separate wishlist bug report with these requests, and maybe Someone will implement them at some point. Note that adding such a feature would mean extending the generation of class-qualified names to all the languages which have a notion of a class or a package, so it's not a small job, and requires to have a good understanding of many languages. Personally, I'd like first to see if the current implementation of etags + xref gives good results, before considering enhancements. Without seeing user responses, we will never know how important these features are.
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And note that before these > changes, etags would _always_ produce only qualified names. So the -Q > switch provides a way to get the old behavior back. Honestly, I didn't use the "before" etags much. I did use 'ctags -e', however. I imagine many users will be in a similar position. ctags has had the --extra=+q option for years (although it's worked only for a few languages). So if we're asking for arguments, they should be for why deviate, rather than why do the same, the latter being the default choice. And yes, users do want those: https://github.com/universal-ctags/ctags/issues/787 https://github.com/universal-ctags/ctags/issues/524 >> Do you expect the user to call 'etags' twice, with and without 'Q', and >> append the outputs? > > No, I think qualified names are almost never useful, given the way > TAGS tables are used in Emacs nowadays, so the -Q option is just a > kind of "fire escape" for use cases that I think should never happen. > > If I'm wrong, then I'd like to see these use cases described, and we > should then rethink the whole issue of qualified tag names. Here's a couple of scenarios: 1. Suppose there are a lot of classes that define the method bar. But I know which class I'm interested in. So I type C-u M-., type My::Class#bar, and jump to it straight away (typing it with completion might be rather quick). If the tags file contains only unqualified entries, I'm forced to see the whole list of methods with this name in all classes, use isearch to go to the desired entry, press RET to jump to it, and then do something about the xref window (I didn't need to see the whole list in the first place, and it's taking up valuable screen estate). More keypresses and micromanagement this way. 2. Suppose I want to see all methods defined by the class Foo. I can call xref-find-apropos, type in the class name, and if these is a fully qualified entry for each of its methods in the tags table, I'll see them all in the list. Or I want to see all methods in a family of classes (unified by a namespace, or a common word in the name). Having all qualified names listed would facilitate this kind of exploration. Users shouldn't have to give up having functional xref-find-definitions for these features.
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Bob, can you try etags from the latest emacs-25 branch? I tried your
recipe, and it seems to work well with "meals", but I'm not a power
Perl user, so maybe there's some left-overs that we need to handle.
Thanks.
Sure; I will do so when I get home this evening. (If you could give me
a quick recipe for fetching the right branch, it might speed things up;
I'm still a Git beginner.)
Also, FWIW, I thought I should mention that M-x find-tag works
correctly with the existing etags output . . .
-- Bob
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Full text available.Received: (at 22947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2016 15:31:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 10 10:31:49 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ae2Z3-0003Bc-03 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:31:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44938) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ae2Yz-0003BM-C5 for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:31:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ae2Yr-0004h0-2F for 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:31:40 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43906) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ae2Yq-0004gv-TP; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:31:36 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2037 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ae2Yp-0005gZ-Q7; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:31:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:31:49 +0200 Message-Id: <83oaaml57e.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <272376b7-ad78-a16d-ceeb-d7408fb59fdb@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:36:58 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#22947: 25.0.92; xref-find-definitions fails for Perl & etags References: <22239.6546.544495.576771@HIDDEN> <88256367-3f1d-6dda-a509-d89e3c8e6c28@HIDDEN> <22239.36324.478948.721025@HIDDEN> <83y49qlbam.fsf@HIDDEN> <272376b7-ad78-a16d-ceeb-d7408fb59fdb@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22947 Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rogers@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Cc: 22947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:36:58 +0200 > > On 03/10/2016 03:20 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Is there something that should be done in etags for this issue? If > > so, what? > > The usual, I think: Bob is searching for perl_method_name, but the > entries in TAGS have names like Perl::Package::perl_method_name. > > So we need to generate unqualified tag names, in addition to (or simply > instead of) the qualified ones like the above. I decided to go the same way as with C-like languages: by default produce unqualified tag names, unless -Q was specified. Bob, can you try etags from the latest emacs-25 branch? I tried your recipe, and it seems to work well with "meals", but I'm not a power Perl user, so maybe there's some left-overs that we need to handle. Thanks.
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Content preview: From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016
03:52:43 +0200 Hi Bob, On 03/08/2016 08:27 PM, Bob Rogers wrote: [...]
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Hi Bob,
On 03/08/2016 08:27 PM, Bob Rogers wrote:
> The bug is that, no matter how many perl_method_name definitions exist
> in the TAGS file, xref-find-definitions won't find any of them, because
> it's only looking for an exact match to what Perl considers the
> package-qualified name, namely the "Perl::Package::perl_method_name" as
> it appears in this TAGS line:
>
> sub perl_method_name ^?Perl::Package::perl_method_name^A23,321
This seems to indicate a problem in etags. Were you using the "real"
etags, one that's developed and distributed together with Emacs? Did it
come with the development snapshot your bug report was sent from?
Yes, and yes.
If so, please send a small sample of Perl code we can reproduce the
problem in.
Try this:
1. git clone git@HIDDEN:rgrjr/meals.git
2. cd meals
3. etags *.pl
and then continue with step two in the original recipe. (This is a
small hack; the clone should only be half a megabyte.) You can try
M-. on parse_recipes (one definition) or add_ingredient (two
definitions).
-- Bob
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#22947; Package emacs.
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1. In a top-level directory with Perl modules ("*.pm") underneath,
create an etags file that indexes the modules, e.g.
find . -type f -name '*.pm' | etags -
2. Invoke "emacs -Q" in this directory.
3. "M-x visit-tags-table RET RET"
4. "M-. perl_method_name RET" where "perl_method_name" is known to
be defined.
The bug is that, no matter how many perl_method_name definitions exist
in the TAGS file, xref-find-definitions won't find any of them, because
it's only looking for an exact match to what Perl considers the
package-qualified name, namely the "Perl::Package::perl_method_name" as
it appears in this TAGS line:
sub perl_method_name ^?Perl::Package::perl_method_name^A23,321
FWIW, the patch I have included below "================" papers over the
problem (though it's clearly much too kludgy to apply).
Note that this has also been failing in master for some time now; sorry
I didn't report it sooner.
-- Bob Rogers
http://www.rgrjr.com/
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diff -u --label /usr/share/emacs/25.0.92/lisp/progmodes/etags.el.gz --label \#\<buffer\ etags.el.gz\> /tmp/rogers/jka-com1969tT2 /tmp/rogers/buffer-content-1969snL
--- /usr/share/emacs/25.0.92/lisp/progmodes/etags.el.gz
+++ #<buffer etags.el.gz>
@@ -1617,7 +1617,11 @@
(or (and (eq (char-after (point)) ?\001)
(eq (char-after (- (point) (length tag) 1)) ?\177))
;; We are not on the explicit tag name, but perhaps it follows.
- (looking-at (concat "[^\177\n]*\177" (regexp-quote tag) "\001"))))
+ (looking-at (concat "[^\177\n]*\177" (regexp-quote tag) "\001"))
+ ;; This works for perl. -- rgr, 8-Mar-16.
+ (save-excursion
+ (skip-chars-backward "^:\n")
+ (looking-at (concat (regexp-quote tag) "\001")))))
;; t if point is at a tag line that has an implicit name.
;; point should be just after a string that matches TAG.
Bob Rogers <rogers@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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