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Hi
When starting emacs in a graphical ubuntu 16.04 session, the "dired"
icon in the toolbar is much larger than the other ones, making the
result quite ugly.
It might be related to the fact that I have a hi-dpi display and set
scale=2 in the unity Display setting. However, other icons in the
toolbar have the right size, therefore there surely is something wrong.
In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
of 2016-04-17 on lgw01-04, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11803000
System Description: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
Configured using:
`configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
--sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
--localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
--mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes
--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.5/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.5/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
--build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib
--libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib
--infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes
--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.5/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.5/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
--with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars
'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat
-Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro''
Important settings:
value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
Major mode: Python
Minor modes in effect:
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent messages:
Mark set [6 times]
Mark saved where search started
Saving file /media/san/linux/5 min
Lebesgue/2016-06-21_Christophe/titre.py...
Wrote /media/san/linux/5 min Lebesgue/2016-06-21_Christophe/titre.py
<f5> is undefined
Making completion list...
No match
<backtab> is undefined [2 times]
No match
<backtab> is undefined [2 times]
Load-path shadows:
/usr/share/emacs/24.5/site-lisp/debian-startup hides
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/debian-startup
Features:
(shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml
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Memory information:
((conses 16 94205 9952)
(symbols 48 19284 0)
(miscs 40 87 339)
(strings 32 14730 3963)
(string-bytes 1 432803)
(vectors 16 11398)
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Thanks, this sounds like http://debbugs.gnu.org/21659 .
According to that report, the solution is to delete
("etc/images/diropen" . "n:system-file-manager")
from x-gtk-stock-map in x-win.el.
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Glenn Morris wrote:
> Thanks, this sounds like http://debbugs.gnu.org/21659 .
> According to that report, the solution is to delete
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> from x-gtk-stock-map in x-win.el.
But that would leave that icon unthemed and looking weird for every Gtk user.
I guess the right solution is to find whatever stock Gtk item best maps
to dired and use that instead of the current application icon.
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Actually looking at
https://developer.gnome.org/icon-naming-spec/
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So maybe Emacs needs to explicitly set the size for Gtk svg icons?
I don't know.
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Le 27/06/2016 à 19:07, Glenn Morris a écrit :
> Glenn Morris wrote:
>
>> Thanks, this sounds like http://debbugs.gnu.org/21659 .
>> According to that report, the solution is to delete
>>
>> ("etc/images/diropen" . "n:system-file-manager")
>>
>> from x-gtk-stock-map in x-win.el.
> But that would leave that icon unthemed and looking weird for every Gtk user.
> I guess the right solution is to find whatever stock Gtk item best maps
> to dired and use that instead of the current application icon.
I'm sorry I didn't have access to the laptop recently. Now I have tested
this, and indeed it works.
thanks a lot.
I agree that the unthemed icon is not very nice and looks weird, but for
me this is still better than
the too large one.
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Le 27/06/2016 à 21:59, Glenn Morris a écrit :
> Actually looking at https://developer.gnome.org/icon-naming-spec/
> there does not seem to be anything better to use. So maybe Emacs needs
> to explicitly set the size for Gtk svg icons? I don't know.
by the way I have an aside (newbie) question:
when I customize the variable
x-gtk-stock-map
in my .emacs, it works, but if I try to modify directly x-win.el, it has
no effect.
(this is in /usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/term, I gunzip x-win.el.gz,
modify it, then byte-compile it)
what did I miss ?
thx
S.
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Le 27/06/2016 à 21:59, Glenn Morris a écrit :
> Actually looking at
> https://developer.gnome.org/icon-naming-spec/
> there does not seem to be anything better to use.
> So maybe Emacs needs to explicitly set the size for Gtk svg icons?
> I don't know.
I should also mention that the problem is present for ubuntu 16.04 with
GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
but *not* for ubuntu 14.04 with GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu,
GTK+ Version 3.10.7)
In the latter case, the correct nautilus icon shows up with the right size.
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Le 27/06/2016 à 21:59, Glenn Morris a écrit :
> Actually looking at
> https://developer.gnome.org/icon-naming-spec/
> there does not seem to be anything better to use.
> So maybe Emacs needs to explicitly set the size for Gtk svg icons?
> I don't know.
additional information: this is indeed related to the scale=2 setting
in the gnome display setting: if I set scale=1, then the opendir icon
has the right size (meaning the same size as the other icons, which are
of course very tiny for me with the setting scale=1)
So, for some reason when scale=2, the icon sizes are multiplied by 2
(this is normal behaviour) except for the opendir icon which is
multiplied by 4.
Maybe this means that scale is applied twice for this "named" icon ?
Just a guess.
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It seems that "n:system-file-manager" is not the only problem
icon in the emacs toolbar. I faced the problem with the Breeze
KDE theme and emacs-25.2 in Ubuntu-18.04.
Is there a particular reason of the choice for the help icon
that appears e.g. for customize mode?
- ("etc/images/help" . ("help-browser" "gtk-help"))
Would not it better to use "n:help-contents" for help? Unlike
"help-browser" that comes from apps, "help-contents" belongs to the
Actions category, so its style is uniform with other toolbar icons.
Unfortunately I could not suggest an equivalent for "diropen", e.g.
"n:folder-new" could be misleading.
Maybe I have missed something but it looks like as a quite sour story.
KDE developers believes that the problem should be fixed in emacs, see
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353496
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=21659
I am not familiar with Gtk so I am unaware if it is possible to adjust
breeze gtk theme to override compiled-in icon size (22px as default in
KDE theme vs. 24px used by Gtk).
I am really puzzled by the following statement, I could not get where
related user preferences could be set:
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkToolbar.html#gtk-toolbar-set-icon-size
> gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size ()
> ...
> This should only be used for special-purpose toolbars,
> normal application toolbars should respect
> the user preferences for the size of icons.
Preferences in settings.ini are ignored, see
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html#GtkSettings--gtk-icon-sizes
Likely it is impossible to override GtkToolbar icon-size though theme
CSS as well.
Obviously KDE-specific hints in index.theme are not taken
into account by Gtk
ToolbarDefault=22
ToolbarSizes=16,22,32,48
It looks like that it is completely up to the particular application if
icon sizes other than compiled-in defaults should be used. I would
expect some high-level API in Gtk that ensures reasonable icon
sizes across displays of various sizes with minimal efforts of
developers of an application but from the first glance I have not
noticed any traces of code that runs behind the scene ensuring
meaningful defaults. Maybe there is no simple way to properly handle
screens with significantly different resolution connected to the same
box, so such work must be done in every application.
Other application experienced similar problems as well, e.g. inkscape
and gparted. They were solved by adding dedicated icons, adjusting
Breeze theme to allow scaling of icons in some directories, or by
modifying application code to force desired size through explicit scaling.
I do not know if using of gtk_icon_theme_load_icon()
with GTK_ICON_LOOKUP_FORCE_SIZE is a viable approach for emacs.
Are there any objections against "help-contents" icon for help?
P.S. GtkToolbar has been removed from the Gtk master branch.
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> When starting emacs in a graphical ubuntu 16.04 session, the "dired"
> icon in the toolbar is much larger than the other ones, making the
> result quite ugly.
> It might be related to the fact that I have a hi-dpi display and set
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On 08/02/2022 13:50, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> sanette-linux writes:
>
>> When starting emacs in a graphical ubuntu 16.04 session, the "dired"
>> icon in the toolbar is much larger than the other ones, making the
>> result quite ugly.
>> It might be related to the fact that I have a hi-dpi display and set
>> scale=2 in the unity Display setting. However, other icons in the
>> toolbar have the right size, therefore there surely is something wrong.
>
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
> at the time.)
>
> I'm unable to reproduce this on a HiDPI display with Gnome Shell with
> the current Emacs. Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs
> versions?
Lars, thank you for grooming the bug tracker.
I faced this bug as unrelated to HiDPI display and namely in KDE. Help
and open folder toolbar icons have normal sizes in Gnome.
I do not have a VM with latest KDE plasma and Emacs, but I had to add
the following to my init file on Ubuntu-20.04 focal (latest long time
support release) with Emacs-26.3:
'(icon-map-list
(quote
((("etc/images/diropen" . "n:folder-new")
("etc/images/help" . "help-contents"))
x-gtk-stock-map)))
Warning: do not try to to create such structure from easy customization
UI. Alist pairs will not be wrapped in a list, invalid values will not
be e.g. rejected by setter and you will get semi-broken emacs spitting
icon-related errors on attempts of various actions.
The problem is that KDE does not provide these non-standard icons in
sizes suitable for toolbar, Gtk takes larger versions while other icons
have normal size.
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Maxim Nikulin <m.a.nikulin@HIDDEN> writes:
> I faced this bug as unrelated to HiDPI display and namely in KDE. Help
> and open folder toolbar icons have normal sizes in Gnome.
>
> I do not have a VM with latest KDE plasma and Emacs, but I had to add
> the following to my init file on Ubuntu-20.04 focal (latest long time
> support release) with Emacs-26.3:
>
> '(icon-map-list
> (quote
> ((("etc/images/diropen" . "n:folder-new")
> ("etc/images/help" . "help-contents"))
> x-gtk-stock-map)))
Thanks. I don't have a KDE setup here, so I can't really test easily.
Hopefully somebody else with KDE can debug this further.
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On 10/02/2022 18:46, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Maxim Nikulin writes:
>
> Thanks. I don't have a KDE setup here, so I can't really test easily.
> Hopefully somebody else with KDE can debug this further.
Lars, what do you mean by "debug this further"?
breeze-icon-theme version 4:5.68.0-0ubuntu1 and other KDE themes does
not have 24x24 system-file-manager icon, so a larger one is used. E.g.
adwaita theme has an icon with such size so Gnome does have such
problem. Emacs uses icons from "applications" category for "actions"
buttons. I just can not easily confirm the problem for latest versions
of KDE and Emacs.
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/16x16/legacy/system-file-manager.png
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/22x22/legacy/system-file-manager.png
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/24x24/legacy/system-file-manager.png
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/256x256/legacy/system-file-manager.png
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/32x32/legacy/system-file-manager.png
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/legacy/system-file-manager.png
/usr/share/icons/breeze/apps/16/system-file-manager.svg
/usr/share/icons/breeze/apps/22/system-file-manager.svg
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/usr/share/icons/breeze/apps/48/system-file-manager.svg
/usr/share/icons/breeze/apps/64/system-file-manager.svg
See my older comment:
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=23847#31
P.S. Lars, sorry, at first I sent this message just to you instead of to
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