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Nice, thanks. However don't see a way to specify this '(:case-fixed t)froma command. Neither `add-global-abbrev' nor `add-mode-abbrev' offer a slot. What about having customizable vars for this, which are taken when set? ;;;;;; GNU Emacs 25.0.95.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5) of 2016-06-12
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On 04.07.2016 10:12, Andreas Röhler wrote: > `define-abbrevs' comes with an option to use > case-sensitivabbreviations. Nice, thanks. > > However don't see a way to specify this '(:case-fixed t)froma command. > > Neither `add-global-abbrev' nor `add-mode-abbrev' offer a slot. > What about having customizable vars for this, which are taken when set? > > ;;;;;; > > GNU Emacs 25.0.95.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5) of > 2016-06-12 > > > >
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[206.188.64.44]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f129sm182513ioe.35.2016.07.04.18.55.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jul 2016 18:55:57 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@HIDDEN References: <ca5b9330-3560-8b56-65ed-cce8e147099e@HIDDEN> <e9c506b8-e5bd-f96a-baf7-525f988c26e3@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 21:56:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <e9c506b8-e5bd-f96a-baf7-525f988c26e3@HIDDEN> ("Andreas \=\?utf-8\?Q\?R\=C3\=B6hler\=22's\?\= message of "Mon, 4 Jul 2016 10:44:00 +0200") Message-ID: <87zipwdf0q.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Andreas R=C3=B6hler <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN> writes: >> `define-abbrev' comes with an option to use >> case-sensitive abbreviations. Nice, thanks. >> >> However don't see a way to specify this '(:case-fixed t)from a command. >> >> Neither `add-global-abbrev' nor `add-mode-abbrev' offer a slot. >> What about having customizable vars for this, which are taken when set? It seems `edit-abbrevs' also lacks support for properties: an abbrev defined with :case-fixed via `define-abbrev' does not show up with an indicator in the *Abbrevs* buffer, and when saving the propery is removed.
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#23891: define-abbrevs - property args not accessible Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 07:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.23891.B23891.146770284621925 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23891 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: npostavs@HIDDEN Cc: 23891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23891-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B23891.146770284621925 (code B ref 23891); Tue, 05 Jul 2016 07:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 23891) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2016 07:14:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37671 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1bKKYX-0005hX-UT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 03:14:06 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.133]:52069) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN>) id 1bKKYW-0005gh-Es for 23891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 03:14:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.35] ([77.12.8.47]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MGmMn-1b6sHb2vtB-00DYma; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:13:46 +0200 References: <ca5b9330-3560-8b56-65ed-cce8e147099e@HIDDEN> <e9c506b8-e5bd-f96a-baf7-525f988c26e3@HIDDEN> <87zipwdf0q.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <deec6464-69e8-1f72-2a4b-6df82e1b6f0c@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 09:18:35 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87zipwdf0q.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:M47EYynb881DG0lAtEyykwJdRwXpVA1FdSjsOs0iZRo6Y82E0kh bAFhfvFcJT/HzzEzd3x67D/HYsmk4c/ZqNJCBMujPp80fLJcqzQELKTcFDG6PIXQBw0dk5j t5C9U7QuFXwbGF+YepL+88B9S0Ad0aucLHnqjgh6jccpihr78rJ2rOhnQlhAPuvEIKdciP7 tsLZ/yeCU39UQmhzsVu3Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:THtgDkfX9oE=:OwQYHBxCz2dEe9aLUcsVxc EkoKMmLCYcyupg4GCZUt4oa6Qb+gUIFdk8OPSCZ+ubxA2zU3cdaZ4bt5JeBcqS7JFoXve0iEW gHNwakTCyJXXWYKsm9yv+9SsgRK1UiMi7k8JoJcISo9NKapBPszs0BXfw97JNZiXyliWOxIrd O8+6iHNHH2+XCsd66aP6BO9iFQmxO1CgP61zCHPm6R9NzAVTg+u9rlmbVxjuB3fDfTzBAcgWf lPVDlRYSOakS3qT6fKPMRe+Yd24OjCy34uT/1qftEpQmEQ6kcK36zmCWeuxoEIp7tDQgSqBV4 h4nz68WGXclEpb1bp9s+EXmDUkC7fcYOB2z2M0nLamxhF3Q8Y9X0sWn4MOXhiCaUGLfjD2Bra JKZLfpiTtyy9JHvEZQLk4howdRmKy6U/L/2WONu3Z26olSbfuVhpLTaaMg4O0DS1BZxpEukxx 0MQhhqYrOrB/GhLTRfhQIzNWAKrim44nvlMt5UPz1eN35NwkRtg1BcGM10iD2sYLgjzrbB1k1 JHfTT9UQDseam1rXwgP4MX4oVKz4wdwbDlDTSkHh4zjcW633IksODzp/KYHkbbSyS9tsGF+/O lft5EC4NfNVKpdhE1jaq45HcqwyX3tnDglLwbIQCzsi0OCwu6eWxKWXCUEtcstwpLcKaOYlj6 ibMQOZaO9HRWfvCOaxrBlydnROYDZGXYqe7XJecoZNqnNm9HeWfY9wrpX+57nPymd3D2tagBZ r8O26FuNvtudcyiy X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On 05.07.2016 03:56, npostavs@HIDDEN wrote: > Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN> writes: > >>> `define-abbrev' comes with an option to use >>> case-sensitive abbreviations. Nice, thanks. >>> >>> However don't see a way to specify this '(:case-fixed t)from a command. >>> >>> Neither `add-global-abbrev' nor `add-mode-abbrev' offer a slot. >>> What about having customizable vars for this, which are taken when set? > It seems `edit-abbrevs' also lacks support for properties: an abbrev > defined with :case-fixed via `define-abbrev' does not show up with an > indicator in the *Abbrevs* buffer, and when saving the propery is > removed. Thanks for your care. Beside there was also slowness reported - and still experienced: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14518#29
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No way to define: > > tLB -> Let's work that afternoon over the London Bridge. > > > > The latter should read No way to define: tLB -> Let's work that afternoon over the London Bridge. and tlb -> Something interesting too in parallel
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