Received: (at 24023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2016 15:48:54 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 19 11:48:54 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57474 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1bPXGP-0002Hh-Pg for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:48:53 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:19859) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1bPXGN-0002HV-Kb for 24023 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:48:52 -0400 Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6JFmjjR009589 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:48:45 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6JFmivb030009 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:48:44 GMT Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6JFmh3P004251; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:48:44 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <6a0a1013-de68-4b41-9e12-037105615216@default> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 08:48:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#24023: 24.5; Use `custom-file' (if defined), not init file, for `en/disable-command' References: <013bc8d5-e959-4814-9f31-bc9297499588@default> <83bn1t1w7h.fsf@HIDDEN> <vyd1m9skgz.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <vyd1m9skgz.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24023 Cc: 24023 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) > See discussion from previous identical report: > http://debbugs.gnu.org/5974 +1. And apologies for creating a duplicate bug report.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24023; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 24023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2016 15:47:53 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 19 11:47:53 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57469 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1bPXFR-0002G6-EM for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:47:53 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:30647) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1bPXFP-0002Ft-HC for 24023 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:47:52 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6JFlgk5000845 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:47:44 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6JFlgGE009097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:47:42 GMT Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u6JFlfPl023914; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:47:42 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <f8be0bca-adb4-461f-8e52-11a4add481db@default> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 08:47:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#24023: 24.5; Use `custom-file' (if defined), not init file, for `en/disable-command' References: <<013bc8d5-e959-4814-9f31-bc9297499588@default>> <<83bn1t1w7h.fsf@HIDDEN>> In-Reply-To: <<83bn1t1w7h.fsf@HIDDEN>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24023 Cc: 24023 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) > This feature is not a defcustom, so it doesn't work like one. Perhaps > the easiest way forward would be to make it a defcustom, or something > like one. I see now that this was all discussed in the bug that this one was merged w= ith. I'd forgotten about that bug. Yes, something should be done, to bring this feature up to the level of cur= rent Emacs. A priori, I don't really care what is done or how. IOW, I tru= st your judgment on this. The point is that Emacs should not still be writing to a users init file. = As mentioned in that other bug thread, two alternative suggestions were: * Replace this way of enabling/disabling with a way that uses defcustom. (= It could involve a wrapper around the `put' thingy or something else.) * Keep the current mechanism, but write to a different file from the init f= ile (and different from `custom-file').
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