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24.5; Add optional arg to `eval-buffer' and `eval-region' to ignore invisible text

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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.5; Add optional arg to `eval-buffer' and `eval-region' to ignore
 invisible text
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:33:04 -0700 (PDT)

Enhancement request.  Add an optional argument to `eval-buffer' and
`eval-region'.  When it is non-nil, ignore text that is invisible.

More generally, maybe: if a (non-nil) symbol, interpret the symbol as a
text property, and ignore any text that has a non-nil value of that
property.

Or if the arg value is a cons (PROP . VALUE), with car a symbol, ignore
any text with property PROP that has value VALUE.

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 24269 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24269: 24.5; Add optional arg to `eval-buffer' and
 `eval-region' to ignore invisible text
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:58:57 +0200

Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:

> Enhancement request.  Add an optional argument to `eval-buffer' and
> `eval-region'.  When it is non-nil, ignore text that is invisible.
>
> More generally, maybe: if a (non-nil) symbol, interpret the symbol as a
> text property, and ignore any text that has a non-nil value of that
> property.

I don't think that sounds like a clean interface for these functions.
If you need stuff like this, it sounds like you should just write
functions that do this for you.  Closing.

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Message #15 received at 24269 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 24269 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#24269: 24.5; Add optional arg to `eval-buffer' and
 `eval-region' to ignore invisible text
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 09:46:19 -0700 (PDT)

> > Enhancement request.  Add an optional argument to `eval-buffer' and
> > `eval-region'.  When it is non-nil, ignore text that is invisible.
> >
> > More generally, maybe: if a (non-nil) symbol, interpret the symbol as
> a
> > text property, and ignore any text that has a non-nil value of that
> > property.
> 
> I don't think that sounds like a clean interface for these functions.
> If you need stuff like this, it sounds like you should just write
> functions that do this for you.  Closing.

It's not about me (or anyone) _needing_ this
behavior.  It's about the _use cases_ of these
two commands.

It just _makes sense_ for these existing commands
to let you ignore certain zones of text.

They already do that (naturally) for sexps in
comments.  Instead of commenting out a zone to
have it ignored, you could well want to eval
only specific zones of text.

That's in fact the _only_ use case of `eval-region':
it ignores text outside the region.  Without this
command you would need to narrow the buffer and then
use `eval-buffer'.

Would you argue, using your same logic, that we
should get rid of `eval-region' because you can
always just narrow and use `eval-buffer'?

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