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11.89; Wrong DocTeX-mode

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Hi Piet,

2016-09-12 11:55 GMT+02:00 Piet van Oostrum <piet@HIDDEN>:
> I want newline in a dtx buffer to automatically insert the % at the begin=
ning of the line. You have to set TeX-newline-function to an appropriate va=
lue. I thought LaTeX-newline would be a good value, but that is not interac=
tive. So I ended up with:
> (setq TeX-newline-function #'(lambda () (interactive) (LaTeX-newline)))
>
> Is there a better way? Or would I rather request LaTeX-newline to be made=
 interactive?

I made `LaTeX-newline' interactive.  Can this ticket be closed now?

Bye,
Mos=C3=A8




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David Kastrup wrote:

[...]

 > Also necessary because if you write
 >=20
 > mode: LaTeX
 >=20
 > (or any other capitalization) in a file variable block, Emacs will
 > invariably call latex-mode .
 >=20
I didn't realize that. Not nice.

 > > I had put something in docTeX-mode-hook, and I didn't see much
 > > evidence of it happening. There was an error in it, but I did not =
get
 > > an error message. However, now you told me this, I looked in
 > > *Messages* and I saw the message there. So it seems to work.
 > >
 > > Thanks for updating me. You are never too old to learn something n=
ew.
 >=20
 > Well, I would not want to rule out any blunder of that kind sitting
 > around for 10 years or so.  But chances are that somebody might have=

 > caught it at some time.  Don't even remember who did the original
 > docTeX-mode (or made it useful), probably Ralf.  It's quirky but pre=
tty
 > useful.

I was tricked into thinking this, because I did C-h m in a dtx buffer, =
and then clicked on doctex-mode.el there (docTeX/FPS mode defined in =E2=
=80=98tex-mode.el=E2=80=99) and came in the standard TeX mode to my sur=
prise. I just overlooked the :override advice: =E2=80=98TeX-doctex-mode=
=E2=80=99.

But maybe you can answer another question.
I want newline in a dtx buffer to automatically insert the % at the beg=
inning of the line. You have to set TeX-newline-function to an appropri=
ate value. I thought LaTeX-newline would be a good value, but that is n=
ot interactive. So I ended up with:
(setq TeX-newline-function #'(lambda () (interactive) (LaTeX-newline)))=


Is there a better way=3F Or would I rather request LaTeX-newline to be =
made interactive=3F

With kind regards,
--=20
Piet van Oostrum <piet@HIDDEN>
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Piet van Oostrum <piet@HIDDEN> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
>
>  > TeX-modes is a variable defined in =E2=80=98tex-site.el=E2=80=99.
>  > Its value is
>  > (tex-mode plain-tex-mode texinfo-mode latex-mode doctex-mode)
>  >=20
>  > Documentation:
>  > List of modes provided by AUCTeX.
>  >=20
>  > This variable can=E2=80=99t be set normally; use customize for that, or
>  > set it with =E2=80=98TeX-modes-set=E2=80=99.
>  >=20
>  > You can customize this variable.
>
> Oops! That's tricky.

Also necessary because if you write

mode: LaTeX

(or any other capitalization) in a file variable block, Emacs will
invariably call latex-mode .

> I had put something in docTeX-mode-hook, and I didn't see much
> evidence of it happening. There was an error in it, but I did not get
> an error message. However, now you told me this, I looked in
> *Messages* and I saw the message there. So it seems to work.
>
> Thanks for updating me. You are never too old to learn something new.

Well, I would not want to rule out any blunder of that kind sitting
around for 10 years or so.  But chances are that somebody might have
caught it at some time.  Don't even remember who did the original
docTeX-mode (or made it useful), probably Ralf.  It's quirky but pretty
useful.

--=20
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To: David Kastrup <dak@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#24412: 11.89; Wrong DocTeX-mode
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David Kastrup wrote:

 > Piet van Oostrum <piet@HIDDEN> writes:
 >=20
 > > In AucTeX, latex.el (line 5871) contains:
 > >
 > > (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.dtx\\'" . doctex-mode))
 > >
 > > However, AUCTeX's doctex mode is called docTeX-mode. So the line a=
bove causes the standard Emacs doctex-mode to be invoked, rather than A=
UCTeX's docTeX-mode. This is undesirable.
 > >
 > > The line should be:
 > >
 > > (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.dtx\\'" . docTeX-mode))
 >=20
 > Why=3F  It doesn't change the other modes either.  The point is that=
 they
 > are mapped to the AUCTeX modes on-demand, see
 >=20
 >=20
 > TeX-modes is a variable defined in =E2=80=98tex-site.el=E2=80=99.
 > Its value is
 > (tex-mode plain-tex-mode texinfo-mode latex-mode doctex-mode)
 >=20
 > Documentation:
 > List of modes provided by AUCTeX.
 >=20
 > This variable can=E2=80=99t be set normally; use customize for that,=
 or
 > set it with =E2=80=98TeX-modes-set=E2=80=99.
 >=20
 > You can customize this variable.

Oops! That's tricky.
 >=20
 > > There is another thing. The documentation of docTeX-mode says:
 > >
 > > "Major mode in AUCTeX for editing .dtx files derived from `LaTeX-m=
ode'.
 > > Runs `LaTeX-mode', sets a few variables and
 > > runs the hooks in `docTeX-mode-hook'."
 > >
 > > However, docTeX-mode-hook is never run.
 >=20
 > That's a possible bug.  Let me see.
 >=20
 > docTeX-mode is defined with
 >=20
 > (define-derived-mode docTeX-mode TeX-latex-mode "docTeX"
 > ...
 >=20
 > in latex.el.  The documentation of define-derived-mode states:
 >=20
 >     The new mode runs the hook constructed by the function
 >     =E2=80=98derived-mode-hook-name=E2=80=99.
 >=20
 > which is defined as
 >=20
 >     (defsubst derived-mode-hook-name (mode)
 >       "Construct a mode-hook name based on a MODE name."
 >       (intern (concat (symbol-name mode) "-hook")))
 >=20
 > Which very much looks like it should do the job.  Do you have actual=

 > evidence that it doesn't=3F

I had put something in docTeX-mode-hook, and I didn't see much evidence=
 of it happening. There was an error in it, but I did not get an error =
message. However, now you told me this, I looked in *Messages* and I sa=
w the message there. So it seems to work.

Thanks for updating me. You are never too old to learn something new.
 >=20
 > --=20
 > David Kastrup

--=20
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Piet van Oostrum <piet@HIDDEN> writes:

> In AucTeX, latex.el (line 5871) contains:
>
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.dtx\\'" . doctex-mode))
>
> However, AUCTeX's doctex mode is called docTeX-mode. So the line above ca=
uses the standard Emacs doctex-mode to be invoked, rather than AUCTeX's doc=
TeX-mode. This is undesirable.
>
> The line should be:
>
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.dtx\\'" . docTeX-mode))

Why?  It doesn't change the other modes either.  The point is that they
are mapped to the AUCTeX modes on-demand, see


TeX-modes is a variable defined in =E2=80=98tex-site.el=E2=80=99.
Its value is
(tex-mode plain-tex-mode texinfo-mode latex-mode doctex-mode)

Documentation:
List of modes provided by AUCTeX.

This variable can=E2=80=99t be set normally; use customize for that, or
set it with =E2=80=98TeX-modes-set=E2=80=99.

You can customize this variable.

> There is another thing. The documentation of docTeX-mode says:
>
> "Major mode in AUCTeX for editing .dtx files derived from `LaTeX-mode'.
> Runs `LaTeX-mode', sets a few variables and
> runs the hooks in `docTeX-mode-hook'."
>
> However, docTeX-mode-hook is never run.

That's a possible bug.  Let me see.

docTeX-mode is defined with

(define-derived-mode docTeX-mode TeX-latex-mode "docTeX"
...

in latex.el.  The documentation of define-derived-mode states:

    The new mode runs the hook constructed by the function
    =E2=80=98derived-mode-hook-name=E2=80=99.

which is defined as

    (defsubst derived-mode-hook-name (mode)
      "Construct a mode-hook name based on a MODE name."
      (intern (concat (symbol-name mode) "-hook")))

Which very much looks like it should do the job.  Do you have actual
evidence that it doesn't?

--=20
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In AucTeX, latex.el (line 5871) contains:

(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.dtx\\'" . doctex-mode))

However, AUCTeX's doctex mode is called docTeX-mode. So the line above causes the standard Emacs doctex-mode to be invoked, rather than AUCTeX's docTeX-mode. This is undesirable.

The line should be:

(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.dtx\\'" . docTeX-mode))

There is another thing. The documentation of docTeX-mode says:

"Major mode in AUCTeX for editing .dtx files derived from `LaTeX-mode'.
Runs `LaTeX-mode', sets a few variables and
runs the hooks in `docTeX-mode-hook'."

However, docTeX-mode-hook is never run.
------------------------------------------------------------------------



Emacs  : Aquamacs 3.3dev  GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.1.0, NS appkit-1344.72 Version 10.10.2 (Build 14C109))
 of 2016-08-27 on d897b997d8d0ed9db56ce9d1afc679b9a3f1e2fd
Package: 11.89

current state:
==============
(setq
 AUCTeX-date "2015-11-13"
 window-system 'ns
 LaTeX-version "2e"
 TeX-style-path '("/Applications/Aquamacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/aquamacs/edit-modes/var/auctex" "/Applications/Aquamacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/aquamacs/edit-modes/auctex/style" "/Users/piet/Library/Preferences/Aquamacs Emacs/Packages/auctex/auto" "/Users/piet/Library/Preferences/Aquamacs Emacs/Packages/auctex/style" "auto" "style")
 TeX-auto-save t
 TeX-parse-self t
 TeX-master t
 TeX-command-list '(("LatexMk" "latexmk %(-PDF)%S%(mode) %(file-line-error) %(extraopts) %t"
					 TeX-run-latexmk nil (plain-tex-mode latex-mode doctex-mode) :help
					 "Run LatexMk")
					("TeX"
					 "%(PDF)%(tex) %(file-line-error) %(extraopts) %`%S%(PDFout)%(mode)%' %t"
					 TeX-run-TeX nil (plain-tex-mode ams-tex-mode texinfo-mode) :help
					 "Run plain TeX")
					("LaTeX" "%`%l%(mode)%' %t" TeX-run-TeX nil (latex-mode doctex-mode) :help
					 "Run LaTeX")
					("Makeinfo" "makeinfo %(extraopts) %t" TeX-run-compile nil (texinfo-mode)
					 :help "Run Makeinfo with Info output")
					("Makeinfo HTML" "makeinfo %(extraopts) --html %t" TeX-run-compile nil
					 (texinfo-mode) :help "Run Makeinfo with HTML output")
					("AmSTeX" "amstex %(PDFout) %(extraopts) %`%S%(mode)%' %t" TeX-run-TeX nil
					 (ams-tex-mode) :help "Run AMSTeX")
					("ConTeXt" "%(cntxcom) --once --texutil %(extraopts) %(execopts)%t"
					 TeX-run-TeX nil (context-mode) :help "Run ConTeXt once")
					("ConTeXt Full" "%(cntxcom) %(extraopts) %(execopts)%t" TeX-run-TeX nil
					 (context-mode) :help "Run ConTeXt until completion")
					("BibTeX" "bibtex %s" TeX-run-BibTeX nil t :help "Run BibTeX")
					("Biber" "biber %s" TeX-run-Biber nil t :help "Run Biber")
					("View" "%V" TeX-run-discard-or-function t t :help "Run Viewer")
					("Print" "%p" TeX-run-command t t :help "Print the file")
					("Queue" "%q" TeX-run-background nil t :help "View the printer queue" :visible
					 TeX-queue-command)
					("File" "%(o?)dvips %d -o %f " TeX-run-dvips t t :help
					 "Generate PostScript file")
					("Dvips" "%(o?)dvips %d -o %f " TeX-run-dvips nil t :help
					 "Convert DVI file to PostScript")
					("Dvipdfmx" "dvipdfmx %d" TeX-run-dvipdfmx nil t :help
					 "Convert DVI file to PDF with dvipdfmx")
					("Ps2pdf" "ps2pdf %f" TeX-run-ps2pdf nil t :help
					 "Convert PostScript file to PDF")
					("Index" "makeindex %s" TeX-run-index nil t :help
					 "Run makeindex to create index file")
					("Xindy" "texindy %s" TeX-run-command nil t :help
					 "Run xindy to create index file")
					("Check" "lacheck %s" TeX-run-compile nil (latex-mode) :help
					 "Check LaTeX file for correctness")
					("ChkTeX" "chktex -v6 %s" TeX-run-compile nil (latex-mode) :help
					 "Check LaTeX file for common mistakes")
					("Spell" "(TeX-ispell-document \"\")" TeX-run-function nil t :help
					 "Spell-check the document")
					("Clean" "TeX-clean" TeX-run-function nil t :help
					 "Delete generated intermediate files")
					("Clean All" "(TeX-clean t)" TeX-run-function nil t :help
					 "Delete generated intermediate and output files")
					("Other" "" TeX-run-command t t :help "Run an arbitrary command")
					("Jump to PDF" "%V" TeX-run-discard-or-function nil t :help "Run Viewer"))
 )
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@HIDDEN>
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