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25.1.50; mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2

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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.1.50; mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:51:41 +0200

At least in all the Gnome apps I've tried, the primary X selection is
already inserted on the middle mouse button down event, not the up
event.  Therefore I'd suggest to change the binding of
mouse-yank-primary from mouse-2 to down-mouse-2.  This might even
partially solve the Gnome-Terminal issue described in
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24420.


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Message #8 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50;
 mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 17:48:51 +0200

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Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:

> At least in all the Gnome apps I've tried, the primary X selection is
> already inserted on the middle mouse button down event, not the up
> event.  Therefore I'd suggest to change the binding of
> mouse-yank-primary from mouse-2 to down-mouse-2.  This might even
> partially solve the Gnome-Terminal issue described in
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24420.

I'm not seeing this in Firefox or calibre; the selection is inserted on
the mouse button up event.  xterm does the same.

What applications did you test?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

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Message #11 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50;
 mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 14:23:43 +0200

Am Mi., 9. Okt. 2019 um 17:49 Uhr schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
>
> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > At least in all the Gnome apps I've tried, the primary X selection is
> > already inserted on the middle mouse button down event, not the up
> > event.  Therefore I'd suggest to change the binding of
> > mouse-yank-primary from mouse-2 to down-mouse-2.  This might even
> > partially solve the Gnome-Terminal issue described in
> > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24420.
>
> I'm not seeing this in Firefox or calibre; the selection is inserted on
> the mouse button up event.  xterm does the same.
>
> What applications did you test?

I'll re-check once I have access to a machine with Gnome (in two weeks or so).

Message #14 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50; mouse-yank-primary should be bound to
 down-mouse-2
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:42:01 +0100

Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Am Mi., 9. Okt. 2019 um 17:49 Uhr schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
>>
>> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > At least in all the Gnome apps I've tried, the primary X selection is
>> > already inserted on the middle mouse button down event, not the up
>> > event.  Therefore I'd suggest to change the binding of
>> > mouse-yank-primary from mouse-2 to down-mouse-2.  This might even
>> > partially solve the Gnome-Terminal issue described in
>> > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24420.
>>
>> I'm not seeing this in Firefox or calibre; the selection is inserted on
>> the mouse button up event.  xterm does the same.
>>
>> What applications did you test?
>
> I'll re-check once I have access to a machine with Gnome (in two weeks or so).

That was five weeks ago, so here's a friendly reminder to look into
this when you find the time.  Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #19 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50;
 mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:36:20 +0100

Am Do., 21. Nov. 2019 um 12:42 Uhr schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
>
> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Am Mi., 9. Okt. 2019 um 17:49 Uhr schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
> >>
> >> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > At least in all the Gnome apps I've tried, the primary X selection is
> >> > already inserted on the middle mouse button down event, not the up
> >> > event.  Therefore I'd suggest to change the binding of
> >> > mouse-yank-primary from mouse-2 to down-mouse-2.  This might even
> >> > partially solve the Gnome-Terminal issue described in
> >> > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24420.
> >>
> >> I'm not seeing this in Firefox or calibre; the selection is inserted on
> >> the mouse button up event.  xterm does the same.
> >>
> >> What applications did you test?
> >
> > I'll re-check once I have access to a machine with Gnome (in two weeks or so).
>
> That was five weeks ago, so here's a friendly reminder to look into
> this when you find the time.  Thanks in advance.
>

Hmm, I've checked now with GEdit and Gnome Terminal, and both now
paste on mouse up. So maybe the behavior in Gnome has changed? In that
case, we should close the bug.

Message #22 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50;
 mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:41:51 +0100

Am Do., 21. Nov. 2019 um 21:36 Uhr schrieb Philipp Stephani
<p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>:
>
> Am Do., 21. Nov. 2019 um 12:42 Uhr schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
> >
> > Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > Am Mi., 9. Okt. 2019 um 17:49 Uhr schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
> > >>
> > >> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > >>
> > >> > At least in all the Gnome apps I've tried, the primary X selection is
> > >> > already inserted on the middle mouse button down event, not the up
> > >> > event.  Therefore I'd suggest to change the binding of
> > >> > mouse-yank-primary from mouse-2 to down-mouse-2.  This might even
> > >> > partially solve the Gnome-Terminal issue described in
> > >> > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24420.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not seeing this in Firefox or calibre; the selection is inserted on
> > >> the mouse button up event.  xterm does the same.
> > >>
> > >> What applications did you test?
> > >
> > > I'll re-check once I have access to a machine with Gnome (in two weeks or so).
> >
> > That was five weeks ago, so here's a friendly reminder to look into
> > this when you find the time.  Thanks in advance.
> >
>
> Hmm, I've checked now with GEdit and Gnome Terminal, and both now
> paste on mouse up. So maybe the behavior in Gnome has changed?

Nope, it hasn't. It's just that the middle button of my touchpad
generates they KeyPress event on key release (!). With a different
mouse the behavior is as described: In GEdit and Gnome Terminal,
pasting happens on key press; in Emacs it happens on key release.

Message #25 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50; mouse-yank-primary should be bound to
 down-mouse-2
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 13:42:47 +0100

Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Nope, it hasn't. It's just that the middle button of my touchpad
> generates they KeyPress event on key release (!). With a different
> mouse the behavior is as described: In GEdit and Gnome Terminal,
> pasting happens on key press; in Emacs it happens on key release.

My mouse generates KeyPress event when I click the middle mouse
button, and the KeyRelease event when I release it.  X applications
paste on KeyRelease here.  So I'm not sure what is going on here.

What does xev say happens when you click the mouse button in the
second case?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #28 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50;
 mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 15:44:41 +0100

Am Fr., 29. Nov. 2019 um 13:42 Uhr schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
>
> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Nope, it hasn't. It's just that the middle button of my touchpad
> > generates they KeyPress event on key release (!). With a different
> > mouse the behavior is as described: In GEdit and Gnome Terminal,
> > pasting happens on key press; in Emacs it happens on key release.
>
> My mouse generates KeyPress event when I click the middle mouse
> button, and the KeyRelease event when I release it.  X applications
> paste on KeyRelease here.  So I'm not sure what is going on here.

For the touchpad it's just a driver/hardware issue, nothing specific to Emacs.
Which GTK+ application did you check? As said, at least for me GEdit
and Gnome Terminal consistently paste on key press.

>
> What does xev say happens when you click the mouse button in the
> second case?

IIRC it was as I described: KeyPress event on pressing the button,
KeyRelease when releasing it.

Message #31 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50; mouse-yank-primary should be bound to
 down-mouse-2
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:33:14 +0100

Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Which GTK+ application did you check? As said, at least for me GEdit
> and Gnome Terminal consistently paste on key press.

OK, I installed some stuff and did some testing.  On my machine:

The following tested applications pastes on key PRESS:

- gnome-terminal
- gedit
- gnome-calculator
- konsole (qt)
- xedit
- libreoffice
- gvim (gtk3)
- chromium

The following tested applications pastes on key RELEASE:

- xterm 
- urxvt
- firefox (using gtk)
- calibre (using gtk)
- emacs (using gtk)

Could you try one or two of the programs in the latter group
(excluding emacs) and verify that you see the same?

If my above observations are not due to some mucked up local
configuration, this seems inconclusive.  I'm not sure where that
leaves us.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #34 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50; mouse-yank-primary should be bound to
 down-mouse-2
Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 14:10:25 +0200

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Which GTK+ application did you check? As said, at least for me GEdit
>> and Gnome Terminal consistently paste on key press.
>
> OK, I installed some stuff and did some testing.  On my machine:
>
> The following tested applications pastes on key PRESS:
>
> - gnome-terminal
> - gedit
> - gnome-calculator
> - konsole (qt)
> - xedit
> - libreoffice
> - gvim (gtk3)
> - chromium
>
> The following tested applications pastes on key RELEASE:
>
> - xterm 
> - urxvt
> - firefox (using gtk)
> - calibre (using gtk)
> - emacs (using gtk)
>
> Could you try one or two of the programs in the latter group
> (excluding emacs) and verify that you see the same?
>
> If my above observations are not due to some mucked up local
> configuration, this seems inconclusive.  I'm not sure where that
> leaves us.

Just a friendly ping.

FWIW, I think there is probably not much to do here, since the above
results were inconclusive; this implies that we should close this bug
report.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #39 received at 24421-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 24421-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50;
 mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 09:20:08 -0700

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:
>
>> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Which GTK+ application did you check? As said, at least for me GEdit
>>> and Gnome Terminal consistently paste on key press.
>>
>> OK, I installed some stuff and did some testing.  On my machine:
>>
>> The following tested applications pastes on key PRESS:
>>
>> - gnome-terminal
>> - gedit
>> - gnome-calculator
>> - konsole (qt)
>> - xedit
>> - libreoffice
>> - gvim (gtk3)
>> - chromium
>>
>> The following tested applications pastes on key RELEASE:
>>
>> - xterm
>> - urxvt
>> - firefox (using gtk)
>> - calibre (using gtk)
>> - emacs (using gtk)
>>
>> Could you try one or two of the programs in the latter group
>> (excluding emacs) and verify that you see the same?
>>
>> If my above observations are not due to some mucked up local
>> configuration, this seems inconclusive.  I'm not sure where that
>> leaves us.
>
> Just a friendly ping.
>
> FWIW, I think there is probably not much to do here, since the above
> results were inconclusive; this implies that we should close this bug
> report.

More information was requested, but none was given within 13 weeks, so
I'm closing this bug.

If you feel that this is incorrect, please reply to this email (use
"Reply to all" in your email client) and we can reopen the bug report.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #42 received at 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 24421 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24421: 25.1.50;
 mouse-yank-primary should be bound to down-mouse-2
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 18:43:03 +0200

Am So., 26. Jan. 2020 um 16:33 Uhr schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
>
> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Which GTK+ application did you check? As said, at least for me GEdit
> > and Gnome Terminal consistently paste on key press.
>
> OK, I installed some stuff and did some testing.  On my machine:
>
> The following tested applications pastes on key PRESS:
>
> - gnome-terminal
> - gedit
> - gnome-calculator
> - konsole (qt)
> - xedit
> - libreoffice
> - gvim (gtk3)
> - chromium
>
> The following tested applications pastes on key RELEASE:
>
> - xterm
> - urxvt
> - firefox (using gtk)
> - calibre (using gtk)
> - emacs (using gtk)
>
> Could you try one or two of the programs in the latter group
> (excluding emacs) and verify that you see the same?

Verified for Xterm and Firefox.

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