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25.1; Wrong key for `dired-do-compress-to'

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Reported by: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>

Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:04:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: wontfix

Found in version 25.1

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.1; Wrong key for `dired-do-compress-to'
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:02:51 -0700 (PDT)
Emacs 25.1 devotes `c' to the new command
`dired-do-compress-to', unfortunately.

Letter keys for`dired-do-*' commands are generally uppercase.
There are few exceptions: `k', `l', and `x'.

Please consider using `M-z' or `K' (uppercase k) instead for
`dired-do-compress-to'.

(Also, `c' is bound by Francis J. Wright's library `dired-sort-menu.el'
to `dired-sort-menu-toggle-ignore-case', which toggles ls-lisp switch
‘ls-lisp-ignore-case’ and updates the buffer.)


(There is also a typo in the doc string of `dired-compress-files-alist':
"the the".)


In GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2016-09-17
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --without-dbus --without-compress-install CFLAGS=-static'




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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 24484 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24484: 25.1; Wrong key for `dired-do-compress-to'
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:40:08 +0200
Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:

> Emacs 25.1 devotes `c' to the new command
> `dired-do-compress-to', unfortunately.
>
> Letter keys for`dired-do-*' commands are generally uppercase.
> There are few exceptions: `k', `l', and `x'.
>
> Please consider using `M-z' or `K' (uppercase k) instead for
> `dired-do-compress-to'.

The binding has now been in place for years, so I think it's too late to
change now; closing.

> (There is also a typo in the doc string of `dired-compress-files-alist':
> "the the".)

Looks like this was fixed by:

commit 8e40429c960a9dd42103be9c41db5a3af7f9ee25
Author: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Date:   Wed Nov 22 17:52:11 2017 -0500

    ; Fix some doc typos


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Added tag(s) wontfix. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:41:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 24484 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:41:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 24484 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#24484: 25.1; Wrong key for `dired-do-compress-to'
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 09:29:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > Emacs 25.1 devotes `c' to the new command
> > `dired-do-compress-to', unfortunately.
> >
> > Letter keys for`dired-do-*' commands are generally uppercase.
> > There are few exceptions: `k', `l', and `x'.
> >
> > Please consider using `M-z' or `K' (uppercase k) instead for
> > `dired-do-compress-to'.
> 
> The binding has now been in place for years, so I think it's too late
> to change now; closing.

That's not a good enough reason, IMO.  Emacs 25 is
not very old, and it's unlikely that changing the
_default_ binding of this command would impact users
negatively.

Keys involving character `c' are used, in Dired, for
"copy", "comment", and "change" (marks).  Keys for
compressing/uncompressing use char `z'.

And we use lowercase chars in Dired for other kinds
of things than `dired-do-*'.

In keeping with the use of char `z' for compressing
and uncompressing.  Dired+ uses `M-z' for
`dired-do-compress-to'.  I suggest that vanilla
Dired do likewise.




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