Received: (at 24526) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Apr 2017 09:31:36 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 19 05:31:36 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55541 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1d0lxY-0007AP-Ip for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:31:36 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:52262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1d0lxW-0007AB-0Y for 24526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:31:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.27]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M6P5z-1c7AIf3i15-00yRUf; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:31:26 +0200 Message-ID: <58F72E64.6090304@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:31:16 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza" <dieter.jurzitza@HIDDEN>, 24526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#24526: iconifying / framesize References: <2404679.08DogL2IpK@djunix> <57EA1AB1.2090707@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <57EA1AB1.2090707@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:e843gYc9ybFJS7puFYLTVMXxGmTodtqKSrqcWNcfP2P3BIWRikx a2f53KxR4/mji0YLrSiXURDmQDh3ZSQAY6FCnShL4acaxc7RksHnozMQso/k7/q9neS8YfL 99it4BD09KJJTrRdqOyJl0VzlTVr3cSTHppLZG3X4grSZuG2DWBVmnYBP9iEnhkqjwhJr3A kqxGUyRE87wfJYiI7X/8Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:M7zf2mJo184=:ru+rDEL/6rNr678UU38Yz4 j9n1OocxQxwBBM9KjTMsVUk81T9nO25iHkQk4wSHWRORbTpJLIt+mn4uNp2hef6q3CSNV+RkV ZYZy1ITyM8Fp7cW9PRRQ81zqWtVBsaebhIdbaptw1PJgQCwUPFbquOCtSkuIP9d56qkDXi32u KJKz1dRFYYOOr5kubkJH5J8LqMU+2X0gMxw6xfHadkxOxWPeRB688oHg6d5Qh2sPspSHIHPlY DfDeAJ76vdfnWxUopHZ+r9k9rOvhgFUKLB9CUxrF2AuxPUGJ9bwibtucoBFyF3zkZ+aGDpYHK 9Hfm9KKqeDOpTFI4t9T03ykdXCa1jto3bZu/z1H1GkSDLHIL/nQd8UAAIxtNKx0V4XRQqvaKP Snfj9+88CrdHHUAtkHXPEyEQwLtNqI0D5M84bLTFNio49OCC6LWMirO/Gzg4H0w5/p+iDQbQA tm1I0JzBHx+cekuSjm/IUN+qGJkj82HVMmrgC01ll3PX9rI3npwMMxbVsVrkAbXpWPQRZAB+J iFl3jihfXD/Ge+9EzciiDkYalQq2x9FKReR1zkWoN15haSHPwtaFZpSOmEPtq9eqwPgppW/Yd q41zZPIKqkPX/ZXJ9f8rYdxDE73Dtokhp2Fgf/G/mMks4pqlDlAv06zhCbXeCwEJLWY4maOAX iRmhYdApwoqYVtCHeGbknGL6lFB5u3w3V5sOUYowavJFobjSlXFxaQ8AkL3VqX8ro/xdZtfT9 Y0iikW/Y5rXDvOve0Nlz8FhxDG3RFSmC8QBAVTTsZfKEI2TiJWEIHDcRfPrA4O+ecsvYqfFRn 51Fk/6MTIkfCq2CDOmQjYuGcRJ9Pg== X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24526 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Dieter, just in case you are still around Sorry for the long delay. I have now looked into this issue again. The behavior you describe is partly reproducible here on Windows XP and I should find a fix for it. But I cannot reproduce it on any of my GNU/Linux builds (GTK, Lucid, no-toolkit) starting from the oldest ones I was able to preserve. So I stronlgy suspect that the behavior you observe is either theme or font related. From one of the dumps you sent me I see that your character size for emacs -Q is 9 x 22 but changes to 11 x 29 for emacs/emacs -iconic. Can you clarify why? Does emacs -Q -geometry 135x34+35+20 -iconic come up with the expected frame size? martin
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> please find a file attached to this email containing (hopefully :-)) all
> information requested.
Thanks for the work.
> emacs -Q
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> frame text pixel: 720 x 792 cols/lines: 80 x 36
> [...]
>
> emacs -Q -iconic
> [...]
> frame text pixel: 720 x 792 cols/lines: 80 x 36
So an iconic frame has the same number of text columns/lines as a
normal one.
> emacs
> frame text pixel: 1485 x 986 cols/lines: 135 x 34
And the frame with the geometry specified in your .emacs has 135 text
columns and 34 text lines as requeste via (I presume)
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 135))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(height . 34))
This looks correct as well (no off by one issue here AFAICT). I have to
admit that this was the major issue that bothered me.
> emacs -iconic
> [...]
> frame text pixel: 715 x 783 cols/lines: 65 x 27
This is the expected mess. The strange values are obviously due to the
fact that the default character size changed from 9 x 22 to 11 x 29
while the frame's outer size did not change along with that. Emacs is
talking characters and the window manager is talking pixels.
I will look into this but I can't promise to find a solution soon.
> emacs -iconic C-X 5 2
> [...]
> frame text pixel: 1485 x 986 cols/lines: 135 x 34
For the new frame I presume, everything as expected.
Thanks again for sending me all this information, martin
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> emacs -geometry 135x34+35+20 -iconic
> ((outer-position 35 . 20) (outer-size 1251 . 850) (external-border-size 6 . 6)
> (title-bar-size 0 . 31) (menu-bar-external . t) (menu-bar-size 1239 . 29)
> (tool-bar-external . t) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-size 1239 . 53)
> (internal-border-width . 0))
>
> emacs -Q
> ((outer-po((outer-position 0 . 0) (outer-size 761 . 917) (external-border-size
> 6 . 6) (title-bar-size 0 . 31) (menu-bar-external . t) (menu-bar-size 749 .
> 29) (tool-bar-external . t) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-size 749 . 53)
> (internal-border-width . 0))
>
> emacs -iconic
> ((outer-position 35 . 20) (outer-size 756 . 908) (external-border-size 6 . 6)
> (title-bar-size 0 . 31) (menu-bar-external . t) (menu-bar-size 744 . 29)
> (tool-bar-external . t) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-size 744 . 53)
> (internal-border-width . 0))
Thanks. Please do the same also for the case that you specify the
geometry in your initial file via
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 135))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(height . 34))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(top . 20))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(left . 35))
for the initial frame and for a frame made via C-x 5 2.
And in all five cases I also need the result of doing
M-: (window--dump-frame)
which you can find in a buffer called *window-frame-dump* after each
invocation (sorry - it's all a a bit tedious).
> By the way; emacs spits out the following message after start:
>
> (emacs:25506): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory of theme oxygen has no size
> field
>
> (emacs:25464): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-enable-
> tooltips is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a
> future version.
If I only knew about these ...
martin
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Sorry, using xwininfo is not what I meant. Please try to determine the
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emacs -geometry 135x34+35+20 -iconic
and then, within the instance of emacs you started this way, after
deiconifying the frame, do
M-: (frame-geometry)
This should print something like
((outer-position -4 . -4) (outer-size 1688 . 1030) (external-border-size
4 . 4) (title-bar-size 1662 . 19) (menu-bar-external . t) (menu-bar-size
1680 . 19) (tool-bar-external) (tool-bar-position) (tool-bar-size 0 . 0)
(internal-border-width . 0))
in the echo area. Please copy the string you get there (from the
*Messages* buffer) and post it here. Then do the same also for
emacs -Q
and
emacs -iconic
that is once for an emacs instance without and once with your .emacs
init file. For the latter please also do C-x 5 2 and then type
M-: (frame-geometry)
in the new frame you just created and retrieve the results.
And please don't forget to report for which platform your Emacs was
built and which window manager you use.
The reasons for different behaviors we all may see in this context are
too manifold to cite here. The main reason is that Emacs iconifies the
frame before calculating its desired size and, once it has calculated
that size, doesn't tell the window manager/OS about it.
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Dear listmembers,
dear Mr. Rudalics,
I tested as suggested - please find the results below, thank you for looking
into this:
fred@djunix:~> cat info-emacs
*******************************************************************************
fred@djunix:~/Downloads> emacs -Q &
(emacs:5488): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory of theme oxygen has no size
field
fred@djunix:~/Downloads> xwininfo
xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
would like information by clicking the
mouse in that window.
xwininfo: Window id: 0x360011f "emacs@djunix"
Absolute upper-left X: 6
Absolute upper-left Y: 275
Relative upper-left X: 0
Relative upper-left Y: 0
Width: 749
Height: 874
Depth: 24
Visual: 0x25
Visual Class: TrueColor
Border width: 0
Class: InputOutput
Colormap: 0x360011e (not installed)
Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Backing Store State: NotUseful
Save Under State: no
Map State: IsViewable
Override Redirect State: no
Corners: +6+275 -845+275 -845-51 +6-51
-geometry 79x35+0-45
*******************************************************************************
fred@djunix:~/Downloads> emacs -Q -iconic &
fred@djunix:~/Downloads> xwininfo
xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
would like information by clicking the
mouse in that window.
xwininfo: Window id: 0x360011f "emacs@djunix"
Absolute upper-left X: 6
Absolute upper-left Y: 275
Relative upper-left X: 0
Relative upper-left Y: 0
Width: 749
Height: 874
Depth: 24
Visual: 0x25
Visual Class: TrueColor
Border width: 0
Class: InputOutput
Colormap: 0x360011e (not installed)
Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Backing Store State: NotUseful
Save Under State: no
Map State: IsViewable
Override Redirect State: no
Corners: +6+275 -845+275 -845-51 +6-51
-geometry 79x35+0-45
*******************************************************************************
fred@djunix:~> emacs -iconic &
fred@djunix:~> xwininfo
xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
would like information by clicking the
mouse in that window.
xwininfo: Window id: 0x360011f "emacs@djunix"
Absolute upper-left X: 41
Absolute upper-left Y: 57
Relative upper-left X: 0
Relative upper-left Y: 0
Width: 744
Height: 865
Depth: 24
Visual: 0x25
Visual Class: TrueColor
Border width: 0
Class: InputOutput
Colormap: 0x360011e (not installed)
Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Backing Store State: NotUseful
Save Under State: no
Map State: IsViewable
Override Redirect State: no
Corners: +41+57 -815+57 -815-278 +41-278
-geometry 64x26+35+20
*******************************************************************************
Ok, I hopefully understood you right:
- start emacs -iconic &
- uniconify emacs
- start a new frame with C-x 5 2
- determine the size of *this* newly generated frame with xwininfo
fred@djunix:~> emacs -iconic &
fred@djunix:~> xwininfo
xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
would like information by clicking the
mouse in that window.
xwininfo: Window id: 0x36003e5 "*GNU Emacs*"
Absolute upper-left X: 41
Absolute upper-left Y: 57
Relative upper-left X: 0
Relative upper-left Y: 0
Width: 1514
Height: 1068
Depth: 24
Visual: 0x25
Visual Class: TrueColor
Border width: 0
Class: InputOutput
Colormap: 0x360011e (not installed)
Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Backing Store State: NotUseful
Save Under State: no
Map State: IsViewable
Override Redirect State: no
Corners: +41+57 -45+57 -45-75 +41-75
-geometry 134x33+35+20
*******************************************************************************
Thanks again,
take care
Dieter Jurzitza
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> I elaborated a little further on this topic. Say, I was to start emacs=
(25.1)
> with
>
> emacs -geometry 135x34+35+20 -iconic
>
> xwininfo tells me:
[...]
> Corners: +41+57 -320+57 -320-336 +41-336
What do these corner values mean?
> -geometry 109x24+35+20
>
> after "uniconifying" the frame. Leaving "-iconic" away, things come ou=
t as
> expected. I have no idea how 109x24 would correlate with 135x34.
Neither do I. Please tell me what =E2=80=98frame-geometry=E2=80=99 tells=
about this
frame. Maybe it's relaed to the frame's default font size.
The surprising thing about this is that here on Windows the -geometry
option is processed as expected. So this looks like a good place to
start investigating this on Windows. Can anyone on GNU/Linux try with
Dieter's options, that is
emacs -geometry 135x34+35+20 -iconic
and report here _if they work_ as expected?
Thanks, martin
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I can observe > differences in framesize between > > emacs -iconic > > and
> > emacs > > both called from within an xterm. I configured the size of
the frame in my > ".emacs" - file. Starting xwininfo and deiconifying emacs
that had had been > started with "emacs -iconic" results in: [...] > -geometry
64x26+35+20 > > In contrast, when simply triggering "emacs" not being iconic,
I get > fred@djunix:~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64> xwininfo [...] > -geometry 134x33+35+20
> > The last lines from "-geometry" are very close to my settings from within
> .emacs: > > (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 135)) > (add-to-list
'default-frame-alist '(height . 34)) > (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist
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> I installed the released version of emacs-25.1 today. Thereby I can ob=
serve
> differences in framesize between
>
> emacs -iconic
>
> and
>
> emacs
>
> both called from within an xterm. I configured the size of the frame i=
n my
> ".emacs" - file. Starting xwininfo and deiconifying emacs that had had=
been
> started with "emacs -iconic" results in:
[...]
> -geometry 64x26+35+20
>
> In contrast, when simply triggering "emacs" not being iconic, I get
> fred@djunix:~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64> xwininfo
[...]
> -geometry 134x33+35+20
>
> The last lines from "-geometry" are very close to my settings from wit=
hin
> .emacs:
>
> (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 135))
> (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(height . 34))
> (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(top . 20))
> (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(left . 35))
>
> though the x- and y- size parameters are off by "1" this is no problem=
=2E
We should investigate this off-by-one issue separately.
In any case, what does evaluating (frame-geometry) return for the five
cases:
(1) emacs -Q
(2) emacs -Q -iconic
(3) emacs with your .emacs
(4) emacs -iconic with your .emacs
(5) emacs -iconic with your .emacs for the new frame after C-x 5 2
Maybe you could also try replacing =E2=80=98default-frame-alist=E2=80=99 =
with
=E2=80=98initial-frame-alist=E2=80=99 but I doubt that would change anyth=
ing.
> However, the fact that the iconified emacs comes up with
> -geometry 64x26+35+20 points me to the fact that the x- and y- size pa=
rameters
> are not processed apropriately.
I suppose so. I tried with your =E2=80=98default-frame-alist=E2=80=99 se=
ttings in
=2Eemacs on Windows and can reproduce it with versions up from Emacs 21.
So apparently this never worked here. Do you incidentally have an older
version of Emacs where this works correctly? Which OS and window
manager do you use?
Thanks, martin
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Dear Listmebers,
I elaborated a little further on this topic. Say, I was to start emacs (25.1)
with
emacs -geometry 135x34+35+20 -iconic
xwininfo tells me:
fred@djunix:~> xwininfo
xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
would like information by clicking the
mouse in that window.
xwininfo: Window id: 0x420011f "emacs@djunix"
Absolute upper-left X: 41
Absolute upper-left Y: 57
Relative upper-left X: 0
Relative upper-left Y: 0
Width: 1239
Height: 807
Depth: 24
Visual: 0x25
Visual Class: TrueColor
Border width: 0
Class: InputOutput
Colormap: 0x420011e (not installed)
Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Backing Store State: NotUseful
Save Under State: no
Map State: IsViewable
Override Redirect State: no
Corners: +41+57 -320+57 -320-336 +41-336
-geometry 109x24+35+20
after "uniconifying" the frame. Leaving "-iconic" away, things come out as
expected. I have no idea how 109x24 would correlate with 135x34.
I know this is a minor issue, however, if someone finds the time to look into
it, I wanted to share my findings.
Thank you very much,
take care
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Dear listmembers,
I installed the released version of emacs-25.1 today. Thereby I can observe
differences in framesize between
emacs -iconic
and
emacs
both called from within an xterm. I configured the size of the frame in my
".emacs" - file. Starting xwininfo and deiconifying emacs that had had been
started with "emacs -iconic" results in:
fred@djunix:~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64> xwininfo
xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
would like information by clicking the
mouse in that window.
xwininfo: Window id: 0x340011f "emacs@djunix"
Absolute upper-left X: 41
Absolute upper-left Y: 57
Relative upper-left X: 0
Relative upper-left Y: 0
Width: 744
Height: 865
Depth: 24
Visual: 0x25
Visual Class: TrueColor
Border width: 0
Class: InputOutput
Colormap: 0x340011e (not installed)
Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Backing Store State: NotUseful
Save Under State: no
Map State: IsViewable
Override Redirect State: no
Corners: +41+57 -815+57 -815-278 +41-278
-geometry 64x26+35+20
In contrast, when simply triggering "emacs" not being iconic, I get
fred@djunix:~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64> xwininfo
xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
would like information by clicking the
mouse in that window.
xwininfo: Window id: 0x340011f "emacs@djunix"
Absolute upper-left X: 41
Absolute upper-left Y: 57
Relative upper-left X: 0
Relative upper-left Y: 0
Width: 1514
Height: 1068
Depth: 24
Visual: 0x25
Visual Class: TrueColor
Border width: 0
Class: InputOutput
Colormap: 0x340011e (not installed)
Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
Backing Store State: NotUseful
Save Under State: no
Map State: IsViewable
Override Redirect State: no
Corners: +41+57 -45+57 -45-75 +41-75
-geometry 134x33+35+20
The last lines from "-geometry" are very close to my settings from within
.emacs:
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 135))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(height . 34))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(top . 20))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(left . 35))
though the x- and y- size parameters are off by "1" this is no problem.
However, the fact that the iconified emacs comes up with
-geometry 64x26+35+20 points me to the fact that the x- and y- size parameters
are not processed apropriately.
Many thanks for looking into this,
take care
Dieter Jurzitza
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