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Isn't that what > the > problem was, and still is? Hm. You're right, Stephen. But not with just that change, I think. And it looks like the problem is maybe for defun doc strings but not for defvar doc strings? (But see below.) (defun foo1 ()) (defvar foo2 ()) (defvar foo nil " `foo2' something. `foo2'\t- units and their movement function `foo1' something. `foo1'\t- units and their movement function ") (defun bar () " `foo2' something. `foo2'\t- units and their movement function `foo' something. `foo'\t- units and their movement function " 42) `C-h v foo' shows links everywhere, for both var foo2 and function foo1. But `C-h f bar' does not show a link for the first occurrence of `foo'. ___ What's odd, and the reason I thought this was fixed, is that I checked (using `emacs -Q') the doc string in my code that I was reporting about. That doc string is for a function, not a variable, but it (correctly) has links for all of the variables mentioned in it. The recipe for the original report is this: 1. Download library isearch+.el from here: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/isearch%2b.el 2. Load that source code. 3. `C-h f isearch-forward' 4. This variable (user option) in the doc was not linked, but should have been: `isearchp-prompt-for-filter-name'. But now that option has a link. (With the above recipe all have links except those with `[*]', which the doc tells you are defined in another library - so no links is correct without that library loaded.)
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2021 19:55:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 07 15:55:33 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57866 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mNhBt-0000DZ-9Q for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:55:33 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mNhBq-0000DE-D9; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:55:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ap85yZTgks1OvWdzyKxwJ/4Mpfpbr42VvDmzyYxSP5Q=; b=Djec5sCKUgksoyBAZJ+NMHQvbN U736YoDs8sldHLSBIpfqZrbWY4U4pmgxt40aajIjqPp3sxRMEZuBX0DeBwIYPrVnqEKhX8WpOpA2r w2N1dGShYo0VAsHCAWHunAnrkQN703TF+1qqo+wyeI3qzPFJDgA/QisFLbAuK7BEXy7w=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mNhBg-00016l-Rj; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:55:23 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#24842: bug#9445: 24.0.50; `help-make-xrefs' has bad logic References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87wnnsgogn.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:55:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wnnsgogn.fsf@HIDDEN> (Stephen Berman's message of "Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:44:40 +0200") Message-ID: <87bl5488k7.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> writes: > But the recipe Lars gave doesn't quite match the description Drew gave, > IIUC: if in the recipe you change the first occurrence of `functions' to > `function', then eval and do `C-h v foo', then th [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: 9445 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>, 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> writes: > But the recipe Lars gave doesn't quite match the description Drew gave, > IIUC: if in the recipe you change the first occurrence of `functions' to > `function', then eval and do `C-h v foo', then the first occurrence of > `foo2' in the doc string is not turned into a link. Isn't that what the > problem was, and still is? Yup. So here's the recipe to reproduce the problem: (defun foo1 ()) (defvar foo2 ()) (defvar foo nil " `foo1'\t- on-demand action function `foo2'") So I'm reopening the bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2021 19:44:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 07 15:44:55 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57854 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mNh1a-0008Mt-Sz for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:44:55 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:39627) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <stephen.berman@HIDDEN>) id 1mNh1Y-0008MV-7V; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:44:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1631043881; bh=B8hVOhRbjUh/Np0mRoRPWl9qQl9kjgFBue+Z3TD/LGc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=dDSmNIbR1mG6QW16Pts2hdcpoUrjL2ECPwYgzsp964osubxhbw8XxHbkLegikEt5b btsxdAPs8eSt4LUvhZw6Gk8DLH3h3fSFQSSYhaxZwINioGLByUtJSJfXKLcwbmhfzk pZdM2sr3ePqkJvMQnhHnMiYwhvfM3g9nyy2kNgDs= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs ([188.109.165.244]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MbzuB-1mx2hi2ov9-00dYvJ; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:44:41 +0200 From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#24842: bug#9445: 24.0.50; `help-make-xrefs' has bad logic References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:44:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 07 Sep 2021 20:00:20 +0200") Message-ID: <87wnnsgogn.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:TH/CqQ0JUXVGDbMzSwA0L4xUgD8cKIdE6w1rF2DYbgXEvEIMe81 +bt4sZDKP2cS+qshGgulrdBt4iWUrFg7Co99tClFnuEAtGLfM+6mEHQnTCe4FkvOQFXwce4 jt/v6i6v7MizcHl2joXG0/CujztGTL7zKVu3HokAyfkh4tUoqFcHCIppA1N7GnCZxSdEy2M kFvi6fnCABFhFJ00Fv91A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:nLI15WWIKKk=:OKpU3dntmpeHub+alQDWRO vasOcRVay2UYfky33ssDfWXmn8XWj/+C7Oglr3HDzTmkG/K/1T58R6chf24erdQ1B+92O6mes izKmYOMGMS6hAwqEy0VxeRw7CR6wMlOTLYkWcfKESwsPssVTMTGu/uAdAuDppgxd8qifYtaG1 Fp09dCKdJD8HowuaRw7fHAkCCL1cw0qTw5/xZH3wn17ItSub4UXmO0E+MwHwRGkBf3Zms5hUe mEAQX/6TSPWtSQvElafs2u3IVx/GDSe4NV1zOKzbFEeK4aMgBhw0R03Qlop17Dz99Up+GAFSB Ae8gfdoDvfmlfeGyCEUyx5YZEUL3HVZOaWFbhPt2+eJ/3d3EJFMHLQL+vOR1LfUbUCLb8XBfS PBgbHhcp4QnWSpZHzWfALVTPeOzGKNJXC/T6Ms3PU4kq1BfzjrwBGpehhMqO/Au9EbxrkFEFF e5yy7HKq+y0Ptsg4tmNpJmA0v54xoYPKW2WZ6MwYaViafg62yHHgSbPmC2KdQrHljKPX6jE7b JacNn5XWTlt/EzYOboijwLLsJL6YdHE0iMy04XduX6JiratOogt6jMYivrVlIRCyJGd+zzuAU kpWhGfxU246QYLGxbksDJ1QEbcV1NANPcRTbuSWbtZPzjXkz9gOLINRMwB9NU+3maeP5TTAU1 VfdRSA5o09A8wd8FlnQfuFR2WCApYsc5HWNubn0eTpS/jhxo2YVngASCKr95Pg9QT2Zo3oR4X lQLzE86GRr6WqvzgtvTobAgMcPdSA00ZSF4W6OmNFD01oOZV6WQnx+1W3KZZHcXNISV00jDmu 36X3E0SJoQUpJtS90+ezi/10lpcDF+co7ahfN759hM96F3+c3Di+qnrj++Sn/u7UKS2kxR5Ek K6adryqeMWbErHTX1fyllbhcniZ14PaOEOEVarew/eSpQrvuUWgskxfYhljgXX8cNiECSnYBW pQUo98E3sJK54TDdoLOb4udzti5SsHeCQlnFF4xB1EW2YkI/iOSSQH1/0eXi6D7UzVVCDj3Ww 1yzhblEVoXHkGHG4dyAesdVAAMNLHaBwriInndpkfz7wu8hAwo/xVutxLFEF9qR16qlJ01Tyz egVmfFxRyVeOu8= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: 9445 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>, 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, 07 Sep 2021 20:00:20 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote: > Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > >> `help-make-xrefs' tries to guess the type of a symbol that is enclosed >> in `...', in help. >> >> This determination needs to to be improved, or else programmers need >> some way to inhibit it when it turns out to be inappropriate. >> >> Example: This is part of a doc string I have: >> >> `isearchp-movement-unit-alist'\t- units and their movement functions >> `isearchp-on-demand-action-function'\t- on-demand action function >> `isearchp-prompt-for-filter-name'\t- when to ask for filter name >> >> Those symbols are all variables (in fact, user options), not functions. >> but the word "function" at the end of the second line causes the quoted >> symbol that follows it to be considered as a function name. And then, >> because it is not `fboundp', it gets no link. It should instead get a >> variable-name link to its definition. > > There wasn't any recipe for reproduction here, so I came up with this: > > (defun foo1 ()) > (defvar foo2 ()) > > (defvar foo nil > " > `foo1' something. > `foo1'\t- units and their movement functions > `foo2' something. > `foo2'\t- units and their movement functions > ") > > When evaling this and then `C-h v foo RET' in Emacs 28, all these are > recognised as symbols in the *Help* buffer, so this seems to work for me > in this test case, at least. > > Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? On Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:28:22 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote: > Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > >>> Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? >> >> Thanks for testing. This was apparently fixed in release 24. >> The bug was filed in a snapshot between 23 and 24. (The bug >> still exists in 23.) >> >> So this can be closed. Thx. > > Thanks; closing this, then. But the recipe Lars gave doesn't quite match the description Drew gave, IIUC: if in the recipe you change the first occurrence of `functions' to `function', then eval and do `C-h v foo', then the first occurrence of `foo2' in the doc string is not turned into a link. Isn't that what the problem was, and still is? Steve Berman
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Thanks for testing. This was apparently fixed in release 24. The bug was filed in a snapshot between 23 and 24. (The bug still exists in 23.) So this can be closed. Thx. (I can't speak to the merges with other bugs, however. Maybe they should not all be closed.)
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24842; Package emacs.
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Content preview: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > `help-make-xrefs' tries to guess the type of a symbol that is enclosed > in `...', in help. > > This determination needs to to be improved, or else programmers need > some way to inhibit it when it [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: 9445 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > `help-make-xrefs' tries to guess the type of a symbol that is enclosed > in `...', in help. > > This determination needs to to be improved, or else programmers need > some way to inhibit it when it turns out to be inappropriate. > > Example: This is part of a doc string I have: > > `isearchp-movement-unit-alist'\t- units and their movement functions > `isearchp-on-demand-action-function'\t- on-demand action function > `isearchp-prompt-for-filter-name'\t- when to ask for filter name > > Those symbols are all variables (in fact, user options), not functions. > but the word "function" at the end of the second line causes the quoted > symbol that follows it to be considered as a function name. And then, > because it is not `fboundp', it gets no link. It should instead get a > variable-name link to its definition. There wasn't any recipe for reproduction here, so I came up with this: (defun foo1 ()) (defvar foo2 ()) (defvar foo nil " `foo1' something. `foo1'\t- units and their movement functions `foo2' something. `foo2'\t- units and their movement functions ") When evaling this and then `C-h v foo RET' in Emacs 28, all these are recognised as symbols in the *Help* buffer, so this seems to work for me in this test case, at least. Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2018 21:26:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 01 16:26:09 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60243 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1eW7az-0004h9-1J for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2018 16:26:09 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:35582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1eW7ax-0004gj-2Y for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2018 16:26:07 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.21/8.16.0.21) with SMTP id w01LNA9T138920 for <24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:26:01 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2017-10-26; bh=t7CADXEow9AdBqYZC85W1QJgEL3Yp5gc94F9pRVz14E=; b=kQjV/887GxgC56CJ8osQRalqk2JTO/38NmFkJ+t1vX7rf7gA0adzQqLWwu4qhat582bp hrMGCApsywukMKrLOXM8l12/zOaX9PHCeWwQkIR5xR3199kLwE5m14wB05F7bAwRnhxv /H27BomX7edV3mzYgfhPVaxBgqNfESw7ZpzYqWtXmfr8Jmg7luvQDxlog3aMzYhXvW8a hUEvC7LPlOGPJppXFgJw7qQUOGDkx1e3qYkeMlYdKjpViSmM/QamCkIu4nAzD8Tc6A0z kVI/Mp2q1YyYOvdX40A4mWO5f182E4NVkoOrEIW2scqtCR5P/76sHiWcAK0Lp3aJg5Ge Cw== Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2f7vr9g06m-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 01 Jan 2018 21:26:01 +0000 Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w01LKxV0026011 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:21:00 GMT Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w01LKxOd011532 for <24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:20:59 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <d935c84e-4ff7-4b30-895c-5c8e2885066b@default> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 13:20:49 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <d3032a33-5935-4548-a863-10bebf312961@default> In-Reply-To: <d3032a33-5935-4548-a863-10bebf312961@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4627.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8761 signatures=668650 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=13 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=521 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1801010315 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > I've been using this for a while, and it seems to be an improvement. > I have not noticed any bad cases. Can you please consider making > this change? I think the logic is better. Or can you point to a > case where it is not an improvement? >=20 > Thx. ping
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2017 19:27:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 05 14:27:21 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56913 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1caST3-0001ST-5S for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 14:27:21 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:38327) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1caST2-0001SG-1C for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 14:27:20 -0500 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v15JRDub028191 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:27:13 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v15JRD8l017574 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:27:13 GMT Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v15JRB0C006232 for <24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:27:12 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <d3032a33-5935-4548-a863-10bebf312961@default> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 11:27:10 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> In-Reply-To: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) > 1. One possible approach is to improve the behavior. I have not tested > this generally, but changing the `cond' clauses to include the test > for type and for documentation as part of the `cond' test, instead of > being part of the result clause after the test, fixes at least the > immediate problem of the above example. >=20 > For example, instead of: >=20 > ((match-string 4) ; `function' &c > (and (fboundp sym) ; similarly > (help-xref-button 8 'help-function sym))) >=20 > use this: >=20 > ((and (match-string 4) ; `function' &c > (fboundp sym)) ; similarly > (help-xref-button 8 'help-function sym)) >=20 > Similarly for the other clauses. >=20 > Possibly this does not DTRT generally, since it lets subsequent > `cond' clauses get tested if the code cannot determine that the > symbol is a variable, function, etc. >=20 > But that's the point of those clauses. If they cannot find that some > symbol is a variable, etc., then shouldn't the subsequent clauses be > tried? (The tests might need to be improved. Dunno.) >=20 > Again, I have not tested this, so I don't propose an exact code fix. > I'm reporting the bug. I've been using this for a while, and it seems to be an improvement. I have not noticed any bad cases. Can you please consider making this change? I think the logic is better. Or can you point to a case where it is not an improvement? Thx.
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2016 16:50:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 01 12:50:11 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39231 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1c1cGJ-00060c-AI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:50:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1cGI-00060O-IT for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:50:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1cGA-0005HP-CN for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:50:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41242) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1cGA-0005HE-98; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:50:02 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4187 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1cG9-0001Gf-Fu; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:50:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 18:50:17 +0200 Message-Id: <83k2cnnnzq.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <9c2643d7-4279-45c8-acf6-f07572be8f71@default> (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:29:08 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations References: <<919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default>> <<878tt4qdjq.fsf@HIDDEN>> <<bd840000-09af-4b41-82bc-042688a66bc4@default>> <<83wpgnns4x.fsf@HIDDEN>> <<CAM-tV-_+-Ewzh_vMpi65cc5ukD+T+WHNPGk0dooqQCaJAvmTaQ@HIDDEN>> <<83r36vnpjw.fsf@HIDDEN>> <9c2643d7-4279-45c8-acf6-f07572be8f71@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:29:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> > Cc: 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > unmerge 12016 > > severity 12016 normal > > severity 12106 minor > > merge 12106 9445 > > thanks > > > > > > Duplicate of 12016 and 9445. > > > > > > I don't think #12016 (ff-find-other-file is not considering > > > cc-other-file-alist for .cxx files) is related, typo? > > > > Oops. It's 12106, now fixed. > > 12106 is not really a duplicate either, IMO. It's about preventing > a link that would be inappropriate. 24842 is about ensuring a link - > preventing a non-link that would be inappropriate. The underlying issue is the same.
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2016 16:29:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 01 12:29:20 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1c1bw8-0003q4-1d for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:29:20 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:45645) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bw6-0003pq-L8 for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:29:18 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uA1GTCbv004273 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:29:12 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uA1GTCCk009534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:29:12 GMT Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uA1GTAXd011397; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:29:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9c2643d7-4279-45c8-acf6-f07572be8f71@default> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:29:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations References: <<919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default>> <<878tt4qdjq.fsf@HIDDEN>> <<bd840000-09af-4b41-82bc-042688a66bc4@default>> <<83wpgnns4x.fsf@HIDDEN>> <<CAM-tV-_+-Ewzh_vMpi65cc5ukD+T+WHNPGk0dooqQCaJAvmTaQ@HIDDEN>> <<83r36vnpjw.fsf@HIDDEN>> In-Reply-To: <<83r36vnpjw.fsf@HIDDEN>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) > unmerge 12016 > severity 12016 normal > severity 12106 minor > merge 12106 9445 > thanks >=20 > > > Duplicate of 12016 and 9445. > > > > I don't think #12016 (ff-find-other-file is not considering > > cc-other-file-alist for .cxx files) is related, typo? >=20 > Oops. It's 12106, now fixed. 12106 is not really a duplicate either, IMO. It's about preventing a link that would be inappropriate. 24842 is about ensuring a link - preventing a non-link that would be inappropriate.
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2016 16:25:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 01 12:25:20 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39175 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1c1bsG-0003kS-GO for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:25:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48709) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bsE-0003kC-Mc for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:25:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bs4-0005Ms-2A for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:25:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bs3-0005Mj-WC; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:25:08 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4086 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bs3-0001Ym-6p; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:25:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 18:25:23 +0200 Message-Id: <83mvhjnp58.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <518ea058-cddf-412e-93b1-2cee723615f7@default> (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:15:25 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations References: <<919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <878tt4qdjq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bd840000-09af-4b41-82bc-042688a66bc4@default>> <<83wpgnns4x.fsf@HIDDEN>> <518ea058-cddf-412e-93b1-2cee723615f7@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:15:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> > Cc: npostavs@HIDDEN, 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > Duplicate of 12016 and 9445. > > Not really a duplicate, IMO. > > One of the things #24842 asks for is _documentation_ for users writing doc > strings: > > 1. Tell them about the behavior - preceding quoted symbols with "function" etc. > 2. Tell them how to override the behavior when inappropriate, effectively > "escaping" an occurrence of a word such as "function" that would otherwise > cause the symbol that follows it to be handled incorrectly. > > Do you need a separate bug report for just this part (doc)? No need for a separate report, because I still think these 3 reports basically talk about the same issue. I also don't think these issues will be ever fixed unless someone motivated takes upon themselves to clean up this area, which IMO is too full of semi-kludges and heuristics that only works 90% of the time.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24842; Package emacs.
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2016 16:16:31 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 01 12:16:31 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39158 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1c1bjj-0003WN-62 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:16:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46108) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bjh-0003W8-L2 for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:16:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bjY-0002j8-IS for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:16:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bjY-0002j1-G8; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:16:20 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4075 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1c1bjX-0000pU-Kg; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:16:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 18:16:35 +0200 Message-Id: <83r36vnpjw.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <CAM-tV-_+-Ewzh_vMpi65cc5ukD+T+WHNPGk0dooqQCaJAvmTaQ@HIDDEN> (message from Noam Postavsky on Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:34:36 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <878tt4qdjq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bd840000-09af-4b41-82bc-042688a66bc4@default> <83wpgnns4x.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAM-tV-_+-Ewzh_vMpi65cc5ukD+T+WHNPGk0dooqQCaJAvmTaQ@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: drew.adams@HIDDEN, 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) unmerge 12016 severity 12016 normal severity 12106 minor merge 12106 9445 thanks > From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@HIDDEN> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:34:36 -0400 > Cc: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>, 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > Duplicate of 12016 and 9445. > > I don't think #12016 (ff-find-other-file is not considering > cc-other-file-alist for .cxx files) is related, typo? Oops. It's 12106, now fixed. Thanks.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24842; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2016 16:15:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 01 12:15:38 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1c1bir-0003Uc-Tf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:15:38 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:35182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1c1biq-0003UQ-JR for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:15:37 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uA1GFTJP015581 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:15:30 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uA1GFTmO015861 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:15:29 GMT Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uA1GFRGc003222; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:15:28 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <518ea058-cddf-412e-93b1-2cee723615f7@default> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:15:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations References: <<919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <878tt4qdjq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bd840000-09af-4b41-82bc-042688a66bc4@default>> <<83wpgnns4x.fsf@HIDDEN>> In-Reply-To: <<83wpgnns4x.fsf@HIDDEN>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) > severity 12016 minor > severity 24842 minor > merge 9445 12016 24842 > thanks >=20 > Duplicate of 12016 and 9445. Not really a duplicate, IMO. One of the things #24842 asks for is _documentation_ for users writing doc strings: 1. Tell them about the behavior - preceding quoted symbols with "function" = etc. 2. Tell them how to override the behavior when inappropriate, effectively "escaping" an occurrence of a word such as "function" that would otherwi= se cause the symbol that follows it to be handled incorrectly. Do you need a separate bug report for just this part (doc)?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24842; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24842; Package emacs.
Full text available.Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 24842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2016 04:35:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 01 00:35:25 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38455 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1c1QnE-0000S1-V6 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 00:35:25 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:19037) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1c1QnD-0000Rq-P3 for 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 00:35:24 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uA14ZH8v001374 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 04:35:17 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uA14ZGBF011697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 04:35:16 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uA14ZGsG010880; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 04:35:16 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <bd840000-09af-4b41-82bc-042688a66bc4@default> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:35:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: npostavs@HIDDEN Subject: RE: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <878tt4qdjq.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <878tt4qdjq.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24842 Cc: 24842 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > What about ZERO WIDTH SPACE? >=20 > `isearchp-movement-unit-alist'\t- units and their movement > functions\u200B > `isearchp-on-demand-action-function'\t- on-demand action > function\u200B > `isearchp-prompt-for-filter-name'\t- when to ask for filter > name\u200B Yes, I thought there was such a character, and it could be used. That is a reasonable workaround, I guess, for a programmer to override inappropriate behavior that can occur now. I should have separated #1 and #2 not as alternatives, but as two approaches that should both, I think, be taken. Do you think the code as written in help-mode.el is correct? Do you not think that the cond clauses are just wrong? Note that only a couple of the cond clauses have the weird form of putting part of the test for type in the result, and not in the test part. The other clauses have, as one might expect, all of the testing in the condition part, and only the `help-xref-button' call in the result part. (That doesn't prove that the same approach should be taken for all of them. But it does suggest a possible miscoding.) I think it would be good to take a close look at this. And also to document the workaround, letting people know of a _recommended_ way to override the default behavior.
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`help-make-xrefs' tries to guess the type of a symbol that is enclosed
in `...', in help.
This determination needs to to be improved, or else programmers need
some way to inhibit it when it turns out to be inappropriate.
Example: This is part of a doc string I have:
`isearchp-movement-unit-alist'\t- units and their movement functions
`isearchp-on-demand-action-function'\t- on-demand action function
`isearchp-prompt-for-filter-name'\t- when to ask for filter name
Those symbols are all variables (in fact, user options), not functions.
but the word "function" at the end of the second line causes the quoted
symbol that follows it to be considered as a function name. And then,
because it is not `fboundp', it gets no link. It should instead get a
variable-name link to its definition.
1. One possible approach is to improve the behavior. I have not tested
this generally, but changing the `cond' clauses to include the test
for type and for documentation as part of the `cond' test, instead of
being part of the result clause after the test, fixes at least the
immediate problem of the above example.
For example, instead of:
((match-string 4) ; `function' &c
(and (fboundp sym) ; similarly
(help-xref-button 8 'help-function sym)))
use this:
((and (match-string 4) ; `function' &c
(fboundp sym)) ; similarly
(help-xref-button 8 'help-function sym))
Similarly for the other clauses.
Possibly this does not DTRT generally, since it lets subsequent
`cond' clauses get tested if the code cannot determine that the
symbol is a variable, function, etc.
But that's the point of those clauses. If they cannot find that some
symbol is a variable, etc., then shouldn't the subsequent clauses be
tried? (The tests might need to be improved. Dunno.)
Again, I have not tested this, so I don't propose an exact code fix.
I'm reporting the bug.
2. An alternative, if you don't find that #1 is reasonable, could be to
explicitly provide for (and document) some way for a programmer to
"escape" a given quoted symbol from a "determiner" such as "function"
that immediately precedes it.
The regexp used now looks for whitespace after the "determiner": any
combination of space, tab, and newline chars.
I can insert a NULL char, x00, after "function", and that "fixes"
things, but that char then appears in the output, as "^@". Another
Unicode whitespace char could be used instead, etc. But that still
means another character that gets rendered, increasing the line
length, etc.
If #2 is chosen, the solution should hopefully be more robust and
cleaner that such a hack.
I hope you will consider fixing this in some way.
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