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Docstring of electric-newline-and-maybe-indent says


"Insert a newline.
If `electric-indent-mode' is enabled, that's that, but if it
is *disabled* then additionally indent according to major mode...."

I.e disabling `electric-indent-mode' will cause electric indent?

Is this sane?

Cheers,

Andreas

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> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 12:23:24 +0100
> 
> Docstring of electric-newline-and-maybe-indent says
> 
> 
> "Insert a newline.
> If `electric-indent-mode' is enabled, that's that, but if it
> is *disabled* then additionally indent according to major mode...."
> 
> I.e disabling `electric-indent-mode' will cause electric indent?

Where does it say that the additional indent is electric?  It isn't.

> Is this sane?

It is to me.

Did you look at the code?

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 Content preview:  On 01.11.2016 19:45, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Andreas
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   +0100 Docstring of electric-newline-and-maybe-indent >> says "Insert a newline.
    If `electric-indent-mode' is enabled, that's >> that, but if it is *disabled*
    then additionally indent according to >> major mode...." I.e disabling `electric-indent-mode'
    will cause >> electric indent? > Where does it say that the additional indent
    is electric? It isn't. [...] 
 
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   +0100 Docstring of electric-newline-and-maybe-indent >> says "Insert a newline.
    If `electric-indent-mode' is enabled, that's >> that, but if it is *disabled*
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On 01.11.2016 19:45, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Andreas R�hler <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 
>> 2016 12:23:24 +0100 Docstring of electric-newline-and-maybe-indent 
>> says "Insert a newline. If `electric-indent-mode' is enabled, that's 
>> that, but if it is *disabled* then additionally indent according to 
>> major mode...." I.e disabling `electric-indent-mode' will cause 
>> electric indent? 
> Where does it say that the additional indent is electric? It isn't.

Understand "electric" just as a kind of joint --or additional-- action. 
Wrong?

>> Is this sane? 
> It is to me. Did you look at the code?

No, the experience was concludent with docu.

In haskell-mode at EOL:

factors :: Int -> [Int]

C-j calls

electric-newline-and-maybe-indent

and indents wrongly - there is nothing to indent.

BTW why electric-newline? Isn't the indent the electric action?

In order to avoid the wrong indent, have to enable electric-indent-mode 
- doesn't make sense for me.

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> Cc: 24844 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Andreas R�hler <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:43:04 +0100
> 
> In haskell-mode at EOL:
> 
> factors :: Int -> [Int]
> 
> C-j calls
> 
> electric-newline-and-maybe-indent
> 
> and indents wrongly - there is nothing to indent.

So perhaps this is the problem to solve, not the documentation?

> BTW why electric-newline? Isn't the indent the electric action?

I agree that the name is confusing; I guess the "electric-" prefix is
to blame.

> In order to avoid the wrong indent, have to enable electric-indent-mode 
> - doesn't make sense for me.

So I think the bug is the wrong indent you needed to avoid.

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On 01.11.2016 21:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: 24844 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: Andreas R�hler <andreas.roehler@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:43:04 +0100
>>
>> In haskell-mode at EOL:
>>
>> factors :: Int -> [Int]
>>
>> C-j calls
>>
>> electric-newline-and-maybe-indent
>>
>> and indents wrongly - there is nothing to indent.
> So perhaps this is the problem to solve, not the documentation?
>
>> BTW why electric-newline? Isn't the indent the electric action?
> I agree that the name is confusing; I guess the "electric-" prefix is
> to blame.
>
>> In order to avoid the wrong indent, have to enable electric-indent-mode
>> - doesn't make sense for me.
> So I think the bug is the wrong indent you needed to avoid.

Hmm, think there are two bugs.

In electric-newline-and-maybe-indent switching the clauses should solve 
this one.

Than, even an electric-indent should do nothing when not appropriate, 
second bug.

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