Received: (at 25115) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2016 10:09:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 12 05:09:45 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1cGNYH-0007SL-LL for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:09:45 -0500 Received: from mail-pg0-f68.google.com ([74.125.83.68]:33584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <tino.calancha@HIDDEN>) id 1cGNYG-0007S8-K6 for 25115 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:09:44 -0500 Received: by mail-pg0-f68.google.com with SMTP id 3so558738pgd.0 for <25115 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 02:09:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=6tP8CxLgP/OPnkeqMLWQUXeC+PR5Sp/lvoD05wDGXP0=; b=xPEp71XvCClaqNjbqtJ/VD8H1PQ7GJ5pOcsFSQIvPn0Rr4tF6diDWDxAjN0wg8EjFx ZUvxztwKS7yioa+++aP+R+UW74MzWIaBL9AOFA5reNQ6bcWGDUsj2kCtn26hu0XSujxM cJO9ab+WuaQ522hf2SedP5dWIE9nL8SuSeqa5pO5bdrvNKd1ofrwHB4uK9OcrfWKOzEf ER6BaNftgQ78oW/lZgaZs9xE921qgcnDRZR4MnxvXMHsULd8m4KnyxQxMJAnN0kZ4O8l ij70ugKXVArpjmqfAh5fNSFFd9ZeqMVz95EqqS5SbKR+Fn4zb3io3Q/Be9Ew2fN2F/2V icDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=6tP8CxLgP/OPnkeqMLWQUXeC+PR5Sp/lvoD05wDGXP0=; b=MVqX+jGgRiW+iHV4xqMy1LZfFeyg71a2Fq/PTRiq8KpqAsjU/2gBzAJkwLOKsGyJoU oMGR0+z6BDT3I6Jy2YaejJoyE974N8cxzBhX3GpvOXO+xrKBwmrG5Yk2LpSVgJhKemt2 H0WxVN918CdrGvQicepGOfgfhierJbvDVaih6oc91vtW7eFT0oefQW8lG0i62Mg/Fcyv gKc6hs6DbQONFvxlPZ9AvzSDLHykHzW2gUcK/bAMwM1FqQPEgtHVu+YdjgT/gkIa+VKH 4bu229QbuA98/iKxVRySfJgTWy2STf8uKTNZtbdR/1jd4MSxKS1dQTNdrM9bsyY74pkp t+lA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC03KEUJNzMfAzSjvZC6kywAwgUilvEErENyNRPEzJ0UtMWbPZkbXCY9+iSEDbWzgHQ== X-Received: by 10.99.239.5 with SMTP id u5mr166197440pgh.61.1481537378653; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 02:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from calancha-pc (177.192.218.133.dy.bbexcite.jp. [133.218.192.177]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t25sm75633372pgo.9.2016.12.12.02.09.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 02:09:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-Google-Original-From: Tino Calancha <calancha@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:09:32 +0900 (JST) X-X-Sender: calancha@calancha-pc To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#25115: 26.0.50; ibuffer fails to show confirmation buffer when there are side windows In-Reply-To: <584E751C.5050505@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1612121901590.2504@calancha-pc> References: <921d3030-33fa-b1df-1fa9-d2a3e9b1c56b@HIDDEN> <584517C7.8040604@HIDDEN> <d0790209-000a-ea3a-d279-f04d5b0b65d8@HIDDEN> <58453E86.3060206@HIDDEN> <87shq25s7j.fsf@HIDDEN> <584594B6.4010400@HIDDEN> <87bmwp5pge.fsf@HIDDEN> <5846CB0F.5010907@HIDDEN> <13c2beac-ab53-b893-ada4-ff76c4fb860f@HIDDEN> <584E751C.5050505@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25115 Cc: 25115 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Liu Hui <liuhui1610@HIDDEN>, Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@HIDDEN>, Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On Mon, 12 Dec 2016, martin rudalics wrote: >> IMO, displaying the confirmation buffer just above the minibuffer >> waiting for user input, or by splitting ibuffer itself (like Dired*), >> is better. > > I leave it to Tino to deal with this. IIUC ibuffer has a dedicated > community and I don't want to interfere with longstanding behaviors. Thank you. I would like to follow the 'Principle of Minimum Interaction', that is, i am happy to modify one file whenever it fix a bug or provide a new useful feature. Other than that, i tend to prefer accepting the original author's design.
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> IMO, displaying the confirmation buffer just above the minibuffer
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I leave it to Tino to deal with this. IIUC ibuffer has a dedicated
community and I don't want to interfere with longstanding behaviors.
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[124.154.237.164]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c8sm37225220pfe.15.2016.12.06.14.45.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Dec 2016 14:45:17 -0800 (PST) From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-Google-Original-From: Tino Calancha <calancha@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 07:45:14 +0900 (JST) X-X-Sender: calancha@calancha-pc To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#25115: 26.0.50; ibuffer fails to show confirmation buffer when there are side windows In-Reply-To: <5846CB0F.5010907@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1612070742580.1921@calancha-pc> References: <921d3030-33fa-b1df-1fa9-d2a3e9b1c56b@HIDDEN> <584517C7.8040604@HIDDEN> <d0790209-000a-ea3a-d279-f04d5b0b65d8@HIDDEN> <58453E86.3060206@HIDDEN> <87shq25s7j.fsf@HIDDEN> <584594B6.4010400@HIDDEN> <87bmwp5pge.fsf@HIDDEN> <5846CB0F.5010907@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="8323329-1964627426-1481064317=:1921" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25115 Cc: 25115 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Liu Hui <liuhui1610@HIDDEN>, Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@HIDDEN>, Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) --8323329-1964627426-1481064317=:1921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 6 Dec 2016, martin rudalics wrote: >> Your patch has perfect sense to me. Indeed i wrote an almost identical >> fix but you were faster than me. > > Damn. Next time I'll wait a day or two :-( > > But we still don't know what this ‘window-list’ stuff is all about. I'd > rather have asked ‘walk-window-tree-1’ on the main window to return the > last window it sees, but consider the following emacs -Q scenario: > > C-x 2 > C-x o > M-x ibuffer > m > m > D > > The confirmation buffer appears above the ibuffer buffer. I doubt that > such behavior is intentional but since I'm no ibuffer user ... I think it shows the author preference for, if possible, display *Ibuffer confirmation* in other window that the one showing Ibuffer. If the current frame just has a window showing Ibuffer, then *Ibuffer confirmation* is shown in that same window: emacs -Q M-x ibuffer RET d d x emacs -Q C-x b test RET M-x ibuffer RET H M-x other-frame RET d d x If we cannot show *Ibuffer confirmation* in the side window, because it's not allow to split it, it's more useful to chose another window, i.e., to follow your patch, instead of signal an error. Tino --8323329-1964627426-1481064317=:1921--
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Content preview: > Your patch has perfect sense to me. Indeed i wrote an almost
identical > fix but you were faster than me. Damn. Next time I'll wait a
day or two :-( But we still don't know what this ‘window-list’ stuff is
all about. I'd rather have asked ‘walk-window-tree-1’ on the main window
to return the last window it sees, but consider the following emacs -Q scenario:
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> Your patch has perfect sense to me. Indeed i wrote an almost identica=
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> fix but you were faster than me.
Damn. Next time I'll wait a day or two :-(
But we still don't know what this =E2=80=98window-list=E2=80=99 stuff is =
all about. I'd
rather have asked =E2=80=98walk-window-tree-1=E2=80=99 on the main window=
to return the
last window it sees, but consider the following emacs -Q scenario:
C-x 2
C-x o
M-x ibuffer
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The confirmation buffer appears above the ibuffer buffer. I doubt that
such behavior is intentional but since I'm no ibuffer user ...
martin
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Full text available.Received: (at 25115) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2016 16:24:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 05 11:24:40 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1cDw4F-00030O-Tj for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 11:24:40 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:61732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1cDw4E-00030B-OB for 25115 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 11:24:39 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.117]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M9OMc-1cOQRU27wM-00CiNM; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 17:24:30 +0100 Message-ID: <584594B6.4010400@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2016 17:24:22 +0100 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#25115: 26.0.50; ibuffer fails to show confirmation buffer when there are side windows References: <921d3030-33fa-b1df-1fa9-d2a3e9b1c56b@HIDDEN> <584517C7.8040604@HIDDEN> <d0790209-000a-ea3a-d279-f04d5b0b65d8@HIDDEN> <58453E86.3060206@HIDDEN> <87shq25s7j.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87shq25s7j.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:jF1TA87PfL6wXBDrEXKCVjEZtOEfJHQlI7gJHtK8Ht3vKl9Basd joOqXXPymcSVEJjSzkSAlf7+M5KdY1th1u3i27sZJv2ZD5dEAd4Fz+ivEa9PsDXT8MHY/o/ Ff4BprXLvCGMagPJVxjEycHm4/XtZXKAbNkAQloO9F5rTFnocaiNNc2qRlJcF+KM1cWlx4E o/m6EWZomOwKBnpeldZbw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:fK4NPstjYRg=:tVk3UN51x4OGPbOLApVh5Z qiadxCsQbYrRLpg72VLEwAd7h5CU0epfZuaBZlRClI7Pfe992QqPxpzzlH1i2JZlP68iSMH3I ysowCi+6TIh93wZqRP3Lf8vLy3HyjYjIiGLgUyQy0FWppFdF8jN5T6mQeEXd/qGhe//TI/rfA RQ71h/e8ghz54KU2Zz2oZmdjkjn7PgYHMuoyYJQjvVDyCR7AgNjFdX5rB47YPeVMiZ51OQLa+ 468p/s939n5FCzZbrVQ8l51cUPYhGtTXa6+KUR477344Alv435GgrV/JH/FLYaLDK4mt0duDV MalkwvE9oFE8vD89gsHYGVcYlhm/0zyGRenFkhp6Z6hX2nZHRAXG4G9909tSL200pezgvFi96 W03MvzI8q/ixAy68iHYXaIK4vry4u+PD2roZITjn0fvyEh1FdhcMWB4TUgx5xd5EdEg2z/qJx 5al1tS1tY8yea4U4TByv8oPySnEnGiVi6DFs5MnbmPmuv90YGRrDNXnFfkAWMKvmKCr9kHLmZ Vq/6iyiW+I+I9bE1QdODzFFa6aS9Gh7bLnzYgyz8iSrcCjDu41djcDqA1lJ8AHs0LxVzkXS6W RaVsbCpiWbZPsnCaj7ljuR4J6gu2fdsZnBUMArPQADWbxuVP8tuPhxB+O4B9Njkd6g8HeflZv lA0S0ezerS04M3kxSqvRcwK8ii4fnCkQWtWroZgGca4TPfiG3S49tRHPVVMGLVyNWaYkX2+NK K+ZkRuTpR7EEEdlnZWGGswjCiGVeFZniQrH+3H5ft1d3Z5ILj5YCvBmD6TbjkgCF4o8tw6RVU GSotlsiHRWHZ7ZRIrSXeNQsRZdpfA== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25115 Cc: Liu Hui <liuhui1610@HIDDEN>, 25115 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > I don't use ibuffer often, but I have been changing instances of > switch-to-buffer to pop-to-buffer-same-window since reading Bug#22244.= > > Makes me wonder about switch-to-buffer's future This is not primarily about =E2=80=98switch-to-buffer=E2=80=99. It's abo= ut displaying a list of items (file or buffer names, completions, ispell's choices, ...) in a buffer, temporarily showing that buffer in a window and then proceeding in reaction to user input. =E2=80=98dired-mark-pop-up=E2=80=99= is a typical function for this purpose. ibuffer apparently uses the last window in =E2=80=98window-list=E2=80=99 = to show the buffer at the bottom of the frame, something =E2=80=98display-buffer-at-b= ottom=E2=80=99 should handle well. But I'd like to hear the opinion of a long time user of =E2=80=98ibuffer=E2=80=99 before actually changing this. Also, =E2=80=98ibuffer-confirm-operation-on=E2=80=99 does =E2=80=98fit-wi= ndow-to-buffer=E2=80=99 and I'd prefer fixing bug#25055 first before reintroducing it somewhere else ;-) martin
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Now the side window has been created and selected. Press 'C-x o' to s= witch to the other window in the left, which displays *scratch*. >> 4. M-x ibuffer. Then press 'd' to mark two or more buffers for killing. >> 5. Press 'x'. Then an error 'ibuffer-confirm-operation-on: Cannot split = side window or parent of side window' is issued. > > Confirmed. =E2=80=98ibuffer-confirm-operation-on=E2=80=99 selects the la= st window of > the selected frame's =E2=80=98window-list=E2=80=99 and tries to split tha= t window. In > your scenario the last window is the side window and cannot be split by > =E2=80=98split-window=E2=80=99. > > I pushed a fix for that on master, please have a look. > > But someone who's using ibuffer on a regular basis should really try to > make it use =E2=80=98display-buffer=E2=80=99 instead. There is absolutel= y no evidence > that the last window of a frame can be split more easily than the one > used by ibuffer itself and if no window can be split some other window > should be reused for displaying the buffer list. I don't use ibuffer often, but I have been changing instances of switch-to-buffer to pop-to-buffer-same-window since reading Bug#22244. Makes me wonder about switch-to-buffer's future
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window by > (pop-to-buffer "test" > '(display-buffer-in-side-window > (side
. right) > (width . 0.2))) > 2. switch to another buffer and M-x ibuffer
> 3. press 'D', mark two or more buffers for killing > 4. press 'x' > > then
an error 'ibuffer-confirm-operation-on: Cannot split side window or parent
of side window' is issued. > > > In GNU Emacs 26.0.50.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu,
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> When there are side windows, ibuffer fails to show the comfirmation bu=
ffer for buffers to be killed.
>
> 1. emacs -Q & create a side window by
> (pop-to-buffer "test"
> '(display-buffer-in-side-window
> (side . right)
> (width . 0.2)))
> 2. switch to another buffer and M-x ibuffer
> 3. press 'D', mark two or more buffers for killing
> 4. press 'x'
>
> then an error 'ibuffer-confirm-operation-on: Cannot split side window =
or parent of side window' is issued.
>
>
> In GNU Emacs 26.0.50.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
> of 2016-12-03 built on lgw01-50
> Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.1180=
4000
> System Description: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
Thanks for the report. Since I don't use ibuffer I just tried to follow
your recipe. In (2) I switched to *Messages* in the side window by
selecting it with the mouse from the Buffers menu. If, after M-x
ibuffer, I now type =E2=80=98D=E2=80=99 in the side window, ibuffer promp=
ts me whether I
really want to kill *Messages* so I miserably failed to "mark two or
more buffers for killing".
If instead in (3) I repeatedly type =E2=80=98m=E2=80=99 to mark all buffe=
rs listed in
the side window and then type =E2=80=98D=E2=80=99, my main window gets sp=
lit, in the
window at the bottom I get a list of the selected buffers and in the
minibuffer I'm asked whether I really want to kill 3 buffers. When,
instead of =E2=80=98D=E2=80=99 I type =E2=80=98x=E2=80=99, I am asked in =
the minibuffer whether I really
want to kill the buffer at the current line of the side window.
I don't understand the ibuffer code (partly because I don't understand
what an interactive Lisp closure is and how it works). So if you can't
give me a recipe I can follow it might be best if you debug the ibuffer
code yourself to find out why and how it tries to split the side window.
Finally note that side windows are preferably populated via
=E2=80=98display-buffer=E2=80=99, so the "switch to another buffer" and "=
M-x ibuffer" in
step (2) already sound like a bad idea.
Thanks, martin
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#25115; Package emacs.
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Hello,
When there are side windows, ibuffer fails to show the comfirmation
buffer for buffers to be killed.
1. emacs -Q & create a side window by
(pop-to-buffer "test"
'(display-buffer-in-side-window
(side . right)
(width . 0.2)))
2. switch to another buffer and M-x ibuffer
3. press 'D', mark two or more buffers for killing
4. press 'x'
then an error 'ibuffer-confirm-operation-on: Cannot split side window or
parent of side window' is issued.
In GNU Emacs 26.0.50.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
of 2016-12-03 built on lgw01-50
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11804000
System Description: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
Liu Hui <liuhui1610@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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