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retitle 2520 Read configuration file on SIGUSR1
tags 2520 confirmed
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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> So maybe rather than load the init file, we wan to use SIGUSR1 cause
>> Emacs to read ~/.emacs.d/sigusr1.el ?
>
> Sure, that would also make sense. "Re-reading the startup file" sounds
> like a less hacky interface, though.
>
>> PS: FWIW, when this happens, I use gdb to attach to the process
>> and "call (intern ("server-mode"));" from there.
>
> Heh. Hadn't thought about that.
Retitling and adding the confirmed tag so this is easier to find.
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Content preview: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > So maybe
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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
> So maybe rather than load the init file, we wan to use SIGUSR1 cause
> Emacs to read ~/.emacs.d/sigusr1.el ?
Sure, that would also make sense. "Re-reading the startup file" sounds
like a less hacky interface, though.
> PS: FWIW, when this happens, I use gdb to attach to the process
> and "call (intern ("server-mode"));" from there.
Heh. Hadn't thought about that.
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Lars Ingebrigtsen [2021-10-22 17:06:09] wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Do we have a `M-x <something>` to re-read the init file?
>> If not, why would it more important to offer a way to do it via SIGUSR?
> The use case is that you're ssh-ing in to an Emacs running on a machine,
> and you want to communicate with that Emacs (because it has all the
> information you absolutely need right now in *scratch*), but you haven't
> set up emacs-server on it yet. (Any similarity to something that's
> happened to me a dozen times is purely coincidental.)
> So if you could put (server-start) in ~/.emacs and send it SIGUSR,
> that'd be nice.
So maybe rather than load the init file, we wan to use SIGUSR1 cause
Emacs to read ~/.emacs.d/sigusr1.el ?
Stefan
PS: FWIW, when this happens, I use gdb to attach to the process
and "call (intern ("server-mode"));" from there.
[ This said, it doesn't happen often, because I do enable `server-mode`
in my init file. ]
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > Do we have a `M-x <something>` to re-read the init file? > If not, why would it more important to offer a way to do it via SIGUSR? The use case is that you're ssh-ing in to an Emacs running on a machine, and you want to communicate with that Emacs (because it has all the information you absolutely need right now in *scratch*), bu [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2520 Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN>, rfrancoise@HIDDEN, Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN>, cmr.Pent@HIDDEN, 2520 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > Do we have a `M-x <something>` to re-read the init file? > If not, why would it more important to offer a way to do it via SIGUSR? The use case is that you're ssh-ing in to an Emacs running on a machine, and you want to communicate with that Emacs (because it has all the information you absolutely need right now in *scratch*), but you haven't set up emacs-server on it yet. (Any similarity to something that's happened to me a dozen times is purely coincidental.) So if you could put (server-start) in ~/.emacs and send it SIGUSR, that'd be nice. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Lars Ingebrigtsen [2021-10-22 16:05:44] wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
>>>> I guess SIGUSR1 and 2 are also taken...
>>
>> Not really: they're turned into input events and one of them can be used
>> for `debug-on-event` but the other is free.
>>
>>> So do we actually want to do anything here? Simply re-reading the
>>> configuration comes with its own set of complications for us.
>>
>> BTW, if someone wants to re-read their init file upon SIGUSR1, they can
>> do so via something like:
>>
>> (define-key special-event-map [sigusr1] <...>)
>
> But should Emacs offer something along these lines by default? I think
> it makes some sense to do so, because people only think about adding
> this after the first time they need it. (Well, after the third time,
> because we're too lazy to do it the first couple times around, and just
> swear a lot instead.)
Do we have a `M-x <something>` to re-read the init file?
If not, why would it more important to offer a way to do it via SIGUSR?
Stefan
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Stefan Kangas [2021-10-22 02:19:21] wrote:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> writes:
>>> On Sep 29 2019, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>> It's definitely something I could have used a number of times... and
>>>> re-reading init files on SIGHUP isn't an unusual thing to do.
>>> But only for demons. Normally a process receives SIGHUP if its
>>> controlling terminal goes away.
>> Yeah, that's true.
>> I guess SIGUSR1 and 2 are also taken...
Not really: they're turned into input events and one of them can be used
for `debug-on-event` but the other is free.
> So do we actually want to do anything here? Simply re-reading the
> configuration comes with its own set of complications for us.
BTW, if someone wants to re-read their init file upon SIGUSR1, they can
do so via something like:
(define-key special-event-map [sigusr1] <...>)
-- Stefan
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severity 2520 wishlist
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> 1) emacs -Q. Emacs process starts.
> 2) pkill -s 1 emacs. Emacs process dies.
> The more appropriate behavior would be to reload the configuration
> without restarting (i.e. reread X resource values). This behavior
> would be especially useful for the daemon mode.
It could make sense, indeed. It can be pretty problematic as well,
since most config files read by Emacs (i.e. site-start.el, default.el,
.emacs) are normally only read a single time per session, and in
a particular order, at a particular time, so rereading them later on can
very easily give you unexpected results.
It is a good practice to keep your .emacs file "idempotent", but I think
such files are the exceptions rather than the rule. So, yes, it could
be handy, but it would have to come with big warnings "may not do what
you expect".
> I'm pretty sure previous snapshot versions used to work that way.
Maybe in some other world.
Stefan
Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>:Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>.
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Mar 2009 09:08:00 +0000 From pent@HIDDEN Sun Mar 1 01:08:00 2009 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2197ufg019167 for <submit@HIDDEN>; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:07:57 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:52516 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from <pent@HIDDEN>) id 1Ldhc6-0001PP-Hp for emacs-pretest-bug@HIDDEN; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:05:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <pent@HIDDEN>) id 1LdheI-0006F2-GW for emacs-pretest-bug@HIDDEN; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:07:54 -0500 Received: from aparamon.static.corbina.ru ([89.179.245.94]:61757 helo=neo.paramonovs) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <pent@HIDDEN>) id 1LdheI-0006Em-5D for emacs-pretest-bug@HIDDEN; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:07:50 -0500 Received: from pent by neo.paramonovs with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <pent@HIDDEN>) id 1LdheD-00046c-No; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:07:45 +0300 To: emacs-pretest-bug@HIDDEN CC: rfrancoise@HIDDEN Subject: 23.0.91; Dies on SIGHUP Reply-To: cmr.Pent@HIDDEN Message-Id: <E1LdheD-00046c-No@HIDDEN> From: pent <pent@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:07:45 +0300 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) To reproduce: 1) emacs -Q. Emacs process starts. 2) pkill -s 1 emacs. Emacs process dies. The more appropriate behavior would be to reload the configuration without restarting (i.e. reread X resource values). This behavior would be especially useful for the daemon mode. I'm pretty sure previous snapshot versions used to work that way. I'm ready to provide any additional info, Andrey In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12) of 2009-02-28 on elegiac, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090228-1) Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000 configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.91/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.0.91/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS='' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ru_RU.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: delete-selection-mode: t show-paren-mode: t pc-selection-mode: t pretty-control-l-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t global-visual-line-mode: t visual-line-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50w3m-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50w3m-el-snapshot.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51debian-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/99pp-c-l.el (source)...done Loading gnus...done Loading pc-select...done Loading paren...done Starting Emacs daemon. When done with this frame, type C-x 5 0 Making completion list... [3 times]
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