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When "dest" is existing, ln -f source dest does an attempt of linkat(AT_FCW=
DFD, source, AT_FCWDFD, dest), which fails with EEXIST if dest exists, and =
then attempts an unlink(dest), followed by repeated linkat().
Between unlink() and second linkat() process maybe preempted, leaving no sy=
stem file.

An option -o (--force-overwrite) is proposed, so existing scripts would wor=
k w/o breaking, and linkat() can be made atomic. By rights, there oughta be=
 an option for linkat() to do it, but right now it was done by spurious ide=
a (Thanking the grace of Lord Merciful and Longsuffering).
Patch follows.
All the best,Mirsad X. Todorovac

___________________________________________________________________________=
_______________________
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ diff -r -U 3 coreutils-8.26 coreutils-8.26p1
diff -r -U 3 coreutils-8.26/src/ln.c coreutils-8.26p1/src/ln.c
--- coreutils-8.26/src/ln.c=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2016-11-14 13:05:20.000000000=
 +0100
+++ coreutils-8.26p1/src/ln.c=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2017-01-02 22:23:53.6081943=
38 +0100
@@ -59,6 +59,9 @@
=C2=A0/* If true, remove existing files unconditionally.=C2=A0 */
=C2=A0static bool remove_existing_files;
=C2=A0
+/* If true, remove existing files unconditionally, even if losing data.=C2=
=A0 */
+static bool force_remove_existing_files;
+
=C2=A0/* If true, list each file as it is moved. */
=C2=A0static bool verbose;
=C2=A0
@@ -90,6 +93,7 @@
=C2=A0=C2=A0 {"no-dereference", no_argument, NULL, 'n'},
=C2=A0=C2=A0 {"no-target-directory", no_argument, NULL, 'T'},
=C2=A0=C2=A0 {"force", no_argument, NULL, 'f'},
+=C2=A0 {"force-overwrite", no_argument, NULL, 'o'},
=C2=A0=C2=A0 {"interactive", no_argument, NULL, 'i'},
=C2=A0=C2=A0 {"suffix", required_argument, NULL, 'S'},
=C2=A0=C2=A0 {"target-directory", required_argument, NULL, 't'},
@@ -283,7 +287,8 @@
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 if (backup_type !=3D no_backups)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 {
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dest_backup =
=3D find_backup_file_name (dest, backup_type);
-=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 if (rename (dest, d=
est_backup) !=3D 0)
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 if (logical && rename (dest, dest_backup) !=3D 0=
 ||
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 !logical && link (dest, dest_backup) !=3D 0)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 {
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 int rename_errno =3D errno;
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 free (dest_backup);
@@ -301,10 +306,31 @@
=C2=A0=C2=A0 if (relative)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 source =3D rel_source =3D convert_abs_rel (source,=
 dest);
=C2=A0
-=C2=A0 ok =3D ((symbolic_link ? symlink (source, dest)
+=C2=A0 if (logical || !force_remove_existing_files)
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ok =3D ((symbolic_link ? symlink (source, dest)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 : linkat (AT_FDCWD, =
source, AT_FDCWD, dest,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 logical ? AT_SYMLINK_FOLLOW : 0))
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D=3D 0);
+=C2=A0 else {
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 char *tmpname =3D NULL;
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 if (force_remove_existing_files &&
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 asprintf (&tmpname, "%s.%06d.ba=
k", source, (int)getpid()) < strlen(source) + 1 + 6 + 4) {
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 int asprintf_errno =3D errno;
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 if (tmpname)
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 free (tmpname);
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 free (dest_backup);
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 free (rel_source);
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 error (0, asprintf_errno, _("cannot backup =
%s: cannot allocate temp string"),
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 q=
uoteaf (dest));
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 return false;
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 }
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ok =3D ((symbolic_link ? symlink (source, dest)
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 : linkat (AT_FDCWD, sourc=
e, AT_FDCWD, tmpname, 0) =3D=3D 0
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 && renameat (=
AT_FDCWD, tmpname, AT_FDCWD, dest) =3D=3D 0));
+=C2=A0 }
+
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0 /* If the attempt to create a link failed and we are removing =
or
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 backing up destinations, unlink the destinat=
ion and try again.
@@ -417,6 +443,7 @@
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 directories (note: will probably=
 fail due to\n\
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 system restrictions, even for th=
e superuser)\n\
=C2=A0=C2=A0 -f, --force=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 remove existing destination f=
iles\n\
+=C2=A0 -o, --overwrite=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 force remove existing destination files\n\
=C2=A0"), stdout);
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 fputs (_("\
=C2=A0=C2=A0 -i, --interactive=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 prompt whether to remove destinations\n\
@@ -467,10 +494,10 @@
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0 atexit (close_stdin);
=C2=A0
-=C2=A0 symbolic_link =3D remove_existing_files =3D interactive =3D verbose
+=C2=A0 symbolic_link =3D force_remove_existing_files =3D remove_existing_f=
iles =3D interactive =3D verbose
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D hard_dir_link =3D false;
=C2=A0
-=C2=A0 while ((c =3D getopt_long (argc, argv, "bdfinrst:vFLPS:T", long_opt=
ions, NULL))
+=C2=A0 while ((c =3D getopt_long (argc, argv, "bdfinorst:vFLPS:T", long_op=
tions, NULL))
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 !=3D -1)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 {
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 switch (c)
@@ -484,6 +511,8 @@
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 case 'F':
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 hard_dir_link =
=3D true;
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 break;
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 case 'o':
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 force_remove_existi=
ng_files =3D true;
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 case 'f':
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 remove_existin=
g_files =3D true;
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 interactive =
=3D false;
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$=20



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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_21991=
" dir=3D"ltr">When "dest" is existing, <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148337488=
1422_22050">ln -f source des</b>t does an attempt of linkat(AT_FCWDFD, sour=
ce, AT_FCWDFD, dest), which fails with EEXIST if dest exists, and then atte=
mpts an unlink(dest), followed by repeated linkat().</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_22055"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_22056">Between unlink() and second link=
at() process maybe preempted, leaving no system file.<br></div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_21990"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1483374881422_22013">An option -o (--force-overwrite) is proposed, so exi=
sting scripts would work w/o breaking, and linkat() can be made atomic. By =
rights, there oughta be an option for linkat() to do it, but right now it w=
as done by spurious idea (Thanking the grace of Lord Merciful and Longsuffe=
ring).</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25709"><br></div><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25793">Patch follows.</div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25838"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483374881422_25872">All the best,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1483374881422_25873">Mirsad X. Todorovac<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1483374881422_25792"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881=
422_25876">________________________________________________________________=
__________________________________<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83374881422_23810" dir=3D"ltr"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_=
25801" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif">marvin@=
marvin-desktop:~$ <b>diff -r -U 3 coreutils-8.26 coreutils-8.26p1</b><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25595">diff -r -U 3 coreutils-8.26/src/=
ln.c coreutils-8.26p1/src/ln.c<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_255=
96">--- coreutils-8.26/src/ln.c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2016-11-14 13:05:20.00000=
0000 +0100<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25597">+++ coreutils-8.=
26p1/src/ln.c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2017-01-02 22:23:53.608194338 +0100<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25598">@@ -59,6 +59,9 @@<br id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25599">&nbsp;/* If true, remove existing files u=
nconditionally.&nbsp; */<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25600">&n=
bsp;static bool remove_existing_files;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148337488=
1422_25601">&nbsp;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25602">+/* If t=
rue, remove existing files unconditionally, even if losing data.&nbsp; */<b=
r id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25603">+static bool force_remove_ex=
isting_files;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25604">+<br id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25605">&nbsp;/* If true, list each file as it=
 is moved. */<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25606">&nbsp;static =
bool verbose;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25607">&nbsp;<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25608">@@ -90,6 +93,7 @@<br id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25609">&nbsp;&nbsp; {"no-dereference", no_argume=
nt, NULL, 'n'},<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25610">&nbsp;&nbsp=
; {"no-target-directory", no_argument, NULL, 'T'},<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483374881422_25611">&nbsp;&nbsp; {"force", no_argument, NULL, 'f'},<br =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25612">+&nbsp; {"force-overwrite", no=
_argument, NULL, 'o'},<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25613">&nbs=
p;&nbsp; {"interactive", no_argument, NULL, 'i'},<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1483374881422_25614">&nbsp;&nbsp; {"suffix", required_argument, NULL, 'S'=
},<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25615">&nbsp;&nbsp; {"target-di=
rectory", required_argument, NULL, 't'},<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374=
881422_25616">@@ -283,7 +287,8 @@<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_=
25617">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if (backup_type !=3D no_backups=
)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25618">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; {<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25619">&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dest_backup =3D=
 find_backup_file_name (dest, backup_type);<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
374881422_25620">-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if=
 (rename (dest, dest_backup) !=3D 0)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14833748814=
22_25621">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; if (logical &amp;&amp; rename (dest, d=
est_backup) !=3D 0 ||<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25622">+&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
!logical &amp;&amp; link (dest, dest_backup) !=3D 0)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1483374881422_25623">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; {<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25624">&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; int rename_errno =3D errno;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14833748814=
22_25625">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; free (dest_backup);<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14833748=
81422_25626">@@ -301,10 +306,31 @@<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422=
_25627">&nbsp;&nbsp; if (relative)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422=
_25628">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; source =3D rel_source =3D convert_abs_rel =
(source, dest);<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25629">&nbsp;<br i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25630">-&nbsp; ok =3D ((symbolic_link =
? symlink (source, dest)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25631">+&=
nbsp; if (logical || !force_remove_existing_files)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483374881422_25632">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ok =3D ((symbolic_link ? symlin=
k (source, dest)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25633">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : linkat (AT_FDCWD, source, AT=
_FDCWD, dest,<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25634">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; logical ? AT_SYMLINK_FOLLOW : 0))<br id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25635">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; =3D=3D 0);<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25636">+&nbsp; =
else {<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25637">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
char *tmpname =3D NULL;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25638">+<b=
r id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25639">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if (forc=
e_remove_existing_files &amp;&amp;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422=
_25640">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; asprintf (&amp;tmpname,=
 "%s.%06d.bak", source, (int)getpid()) &lt; strlen(source) + 1 + 6 + 4) {<b=
r id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25641">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; int asprintf_errno =3D errno;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_=
25642">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if (tmpname)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483374881422_25643">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; free (tmpname);<br id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25644">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; free (des=
t_backup);<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25645">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; free (rel_source);<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422=
_25646">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; error (0, asprintf_errno, _("cannot=
 backup %s: cannot allocate temp string"),<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14833=
74881422_25647">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; quoteaf (dest));<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25=
648">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; return false;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483374881422_25649">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83374881422_25650">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14833748=
81422_25651">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ok =3D ((symbolic_link ? symlink (source, =
dest)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25652">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : linkat (AT_FDCWD, source, AT_FDCWD, tmpname,=
 0) =3D=3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25653">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &amp;&amp; renameat (AT_FDC=
WD, tmpname, AT_FDCWD, dest) =3D=3D 0));<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374=
881422_25654">+&nbsp; }<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25655">+<b=
r id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25656">&nbsp;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1483374881422_25657">&nbsp;&nbsp; /* If the attempt to create a link =
failed and we are removing or<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_2565=
8">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; backing up destinations, unlink the desti=
nation and try again.<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25659">@@ -4=
17,6 +443,7 @@<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25660">&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; directories (note: will probably fail due to=
\n\<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25661">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; system restrictions, even for the superuser)\n\<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25662">&nbsp;&nbsp; -f, --force&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; remove existing destination files\n\<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483374881422_25663">+&nbsp; -o, --overwrite&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; force remove existing destinat=
ion files\n\<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25664">&nbsp;"), stdo=
ut);<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25665">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; fputs (_("\<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25666">=
&nbsp;&nbsp; -i, --interactive&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; prompt whether to remove destinations\n\<br id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25667">@@ -467,10 +494,10 @@<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483374881422_25668">&nbsp;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25=
669">&nbsp;&nbsp; atexit (close_stdin);<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14833748=
81422_25670">&nbsp;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25671">-&nbsp;=
 symbolic_link =3D remove_existing_files =3D interactive =3D verbose<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25672">+&nbsp; symbolic_link =3D force_=
remove_existing_files =3D remove_existing_files =3D interactive =3D verbose=
<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25673">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
=3D hard_dir_link =3D false;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25674=
">&nbsp;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25675">-&nbsp; while ((c =
=3D getopt_long (argc, argv, "bdfinrst:vFLPS:T", long_options, NULL))<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25676">+&nbsp; while ((c =3D getopt_lon=
g (argc, argv, "bdfinorst:vFLPS:T", long_options, NULL))<br id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25677">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; !=3D -1)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25678">&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; {<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25679">&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; switch (c)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14833748=
81422_25680">@@ -484,6 +511,8 @@<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_2=
5681">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; case 'F':<br id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25682">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hard_dir_link =3D true;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483374881422_25683">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; break;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25684">+&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; case 'o':<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374=
881422_25685">+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; force=
_remove_existing_files =3D true;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_2=
5686">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; case 'f':<br id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25687">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; remove_existing_files =3D true;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1483374881422_25688">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; interactive =3D false;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881=
422_25689">marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14833748814=
22_25690"><br></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483374881422_25402=
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Although I like the idea of changing "ln -f A B" to do the equivalent of =
"ln -f=20
A B.tmp; mv B.tmp B" when B already exists, I'm not sure I'd want to have=
 a new=20
option to restore the old behavior, as that would add complexity for litt=
le real=20
benefit.

Also, this behavior shouldn't be limited to ln; it should also be done by=
 cp -l.




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Dear Sir,
It would suffice that:
linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest, 0) == 0 || unlink (dest) == 0 && linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest, 0) == 0;
be replaced with:
linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest_tmp, 0) == 0 && renameat (AT_CWDFD, dest_tmp, AT_CWDFD, dest) == 0;
. This is exact equivalent of "ln -f A B.tmp; mv B.tmp B", true, as it had been cited, the rest is generating unique filename (MT safety is not yet done) and installing -o (--force-overwrite) option to command line.
Alternate behavior could be that default is to replace existing file atomically by default, and option is required or already existing to no-clobber.
If I do, for example:
# ln -f /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.orig# ln -f /etc/resolv.conf.ISP /etc/resolv.conf
there is a window in which ln comand can be preempted, and other processes trying i.e. gethostbyname() may or will fail (unless they have cached result).
This is equivalent to workaround with mv you provided above, but I think unlink() variant involves a race condition. And if I may assert - what is then forced? If desired behavior is to unlink() old existing target, then race condition involved is clearly a bug. IMHO.

I hope I am not too arrogant in these observations. And thank you very much for your time.

Regards,MT




 

    On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 2:07 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> wrote:
 

 Although I like the idea of changing "ln -f A B" to do the equivalent of "ln -f 
A B.tmp; mv B.tmp B" when B already exists, I'm not sure I'd want to have a new 
option to restore the old behavior, as that would add complexity for little real 
benefit.

Also, this behavior shouldn't be limited to ln; it should also be done by cp -l.

   
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ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11260=
">Dear Sir,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_10786"><br></di=
v><div>It would suffice that:</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14834130615=
95_12188"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_=
10808"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12436" face=3D"Courier N=
ew, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif">linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CW=
DFD, dest, 0) =3D=3D 0 || unlink (dest) =3D=3D 0 &amp;&amp; linkat (AT_CWDF=
D, source, AT_CWDFD, dest, 0) =3D=3D 0;</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_10807"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_10787">be replaced with:</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11261"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12234"><font face=3D"Courier New, couri=
er, monaco, monospace, sans-serif">linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest=
_tmp, 0) =3D=3D 0 &amp;&amp; renameat (AT_CWDFD, dest_tmp, AT_CWDFD, dest) =
=3D=3D 0;</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148341306159=
5_12305"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_1=
2304">. This is exact equivalent of "ln -f A B.tmp; mv B.tmp B", true, as i=
t had been cited, the rest is generating unique filename (MT safety is not =
yet done) and installing -o (--force-overwrite) option to command line.</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12303"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11264">Alternate beha=
vior could be that default is to replace existing file atomically by defaul=
t, and option is required or already existing to no-clobber.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11262"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11298">If I do, for example:</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12307"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11448"><font id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12376" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco,=
 monospace, sans-serif"># <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12435">l=
n -f /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.orig</b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12187"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1483413061595_12375" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, san=
s-serif"># <b>ln -f /etc/resolv.conf.ISP /etc/resolv.conf</b></font></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11572"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12373">there is a window=
 in which ln comand can be preempted, and other processes trying i.e. getho=
stbyname() may or will fail (unless they have cached result).</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12186"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11661">This is equivalent to wo=
rkaround with mv you provided above, but I think unlink() variant involves =
a <b>race condition</b>. And if I may assert - what is then forced? If desi=
red behavior is to <b>unlink() </b>old existing target, then race condition=
 involved is clearly a bug. IMHO.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11888"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1483413061595_11931">I hope I am not too arrogant in these observatio=
ns. And thank you very much for your time.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12068"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12169">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12074">MT<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11263"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11618"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483413061595_11838"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148341=
3061595_11827"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483413061595_12120">=
<span></span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=
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Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D=
"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 2:07 AM,=
 Paul Eggert &lt;eggert@HIDDEN&gt; wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <=
div class=3D"y_msg_container">Although I like the idea of changing "ln -f A=
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Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> It would suffice that:
> linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest, 0) == 0 || unlink (dest) == 0 && linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest, 0) == 0;
> be replaced with:
> linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest_tmp, 0) == 0 && renameat (AT_CWDFD, dest_tmp, AT_CWDFD, dest) == 0;

It isn't that simple, since renameat is a no-op if the source and destination 
are already hard links. So the patch you sent in would not work.

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing with the basic idea, I'm merely saying I don't see 
why we should have an option to keep the old behavior. Anybody who really wants 
the old behavior can do 'rm -f new && ln old new' instead.




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I did not understand this no-op behavior. It is unlike what my Ubuntu kerne=
l experienced. I may later try to see what 4.x kernels do ...

Please consider the trace below. Thank you.
M.T.
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ uname -a
Linux marvin-desktop 3.5.0-34-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:20:19 UTC=
 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$=20
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ rm -f copy copy2 copy2~ ; cp /etc/resolv.conf.orig=
 copy ; cp /etc/resolv.conf copy2
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ cat copy copy2
# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf=
(8)
#=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WIL=
L BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 127.0.1.1
search lan
# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf=
(8)
#=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WIL=
L BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 194.146.109.223
nameserver 194.146.109.224
search lan
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ strace coreutils-devel/bin/ln -b -fo copy copy2
execve("coreutils-devel/bin/ln", ["coreutils-devel/bin/ln", "-b", "-fo", "c=
opy", "copy2"], [/* 65 vars */]) =3D 0
brk(NULL)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0xa036000
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D -1 ENO=
ENT (No such file or directory)
mmap2(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
=3D 0xb7745000
access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D -1 ENO=
ENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) =3D 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D127411, ...}) =3D 0
mmap2(NULL, 127411, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =3D 0xb7725000
close(3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D -1 ENO=
ENT (No such file or directory)
open("/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) =3D 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320\207\1\0004\0\0=
\0"..., 512) =3D 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0755, st_size=3D1786484, ...}) =3D 0
mmap2(NULL, 1792540, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) =
=3D 0xb756f000
mprotect(0xb771e000, 4096, PROT_NONE)=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
mmap2(0xb771f000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DE=
NYWRITE, 3, 0x1af000) =3D 0xb771f000
mmap2(0xb7722000, 10780, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_AN=
ONYMOUS, -1, 0) =3D 0xb7722000
close(3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
=3D 0xb756e000
set_thread_area({entry_number:-1, base_addr:0xb756e940, limit:1048575, seg_=
32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0,=
 useable:1}) =3D 0 (entry_number:6)
mprotect(0xb771f000, 8192, PROT_READ)=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
mprotect(0x8058000, 4096, PROT_READ)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
mprotect(0xb776a000, 4096, PROT_READ)=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
munmap(0xb7725000, 127411)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
brk(NULL)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0xa036000
brk(0xa057000)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0xa057000
open("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE|O_CLOEXEC) =3D =
3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D4229984, ...}) =3D 0
mmap2(NULL, 2097152, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =3D 0xb736e000
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0x2d4000) =3D 0xb7744000
close(3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
stat64("copy2", {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D216, ...}) =3D 0
open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) =3D 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D2995, ...}) =3D 0
read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) =3D 2995
read(3, "", 4096)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 =3D 0
close(3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
open("/home/marvin/coreutils-devel/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils=
.mo", O_RDONLY) =3D -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/home/marvin/coreutils-devel/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo=
", O_RDONLY) =3D -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY)=
 =3D -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) =
=3D 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D619, ...}) =3D 0
mmap2(NULL, 619, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =3D 0xb7743000
close(3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
lstat64("copy", {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D183, ...}) =3D 0
lstat64("copy2", {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D216, ...}) =3D 0
open(".", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) =3D 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFDIR|0755, st_size=3D12288, ...}) =3D 0
getdents64(3, /* 152 entries */, 32768) =3D 5808
getdents64(3, /* 0 entries */, 32768)=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
close(3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
link("copy2", "copy2~")=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
getpid()=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 3085
linkat(AT_FDCWD, "copy", AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", 0) =3D 0
renameat(AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", AT_FDCWD, "copy2") =3D 0
_llseek(0, 0, 0xbf9087a8, SEEK_CUR)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D -1 ESPIPE (=
Illegal seek)
close(0)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
close(1)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
close(2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
exit_group(0)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D ?
+++ exited with 0 +++
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$=20
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ cat copy copy2 copy2~
# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf=
(8)
#=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WIL=
L BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 127.0.1.1
search lan
# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf=
(8)
#=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WIL=
L BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 127.0.1.1
search lan
# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf=
(8)
#=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WIL=
L BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 194.146.109.223
nameserver 194.146.109.224
search lan
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$=20
=20

    On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 6:38 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
=20

 Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> It would suffice that:
> linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest, 0) =3D=3D 0 || unlink (dest) =
=3D=3D 0 && linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest, 0) =3D=3D 0;
> be replaced with:
> linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest_tmp, 0) =3D=3D 0 && renameat (AT=
_CWDFD, dest_tmp, AT_CWDFD, dest) =3D=3D 0;

It isn't that simple, since renameat is a no-op if the source and destinati=
on=20
are already hard links. So the patch you sent in would not work.

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing with the basic idea, I'm merely saying I don't =
see=20
why we should have an option to keep the old behavior. Anybody who really w=
ants=20
the old behavior can do 'rm -f new && ln old new' instead.


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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px">I did not understand this no-op behavior. It is =
unlike what my Ubuntu kernel experienced. I may later try to see what 4.x k=
ernels do ...<br><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19563" dir=3D"l=
tr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19855"><br></span></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20826"><span id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19855">Please consider the trace below. Thank y=
ou.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148355889442=
1_19855"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83558894421_19855">M.T.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1483558894421_19855"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19965"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148355889442=
1_19855"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20018" face=3D"Courier=
 New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif">marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ <b>u=
name -a</b><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19973">Linux marvin-de=
sktop 3.5.0-34-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:20:19 UTC 2013 i686 athl=
on i686 GNU/Linux<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19974">marvin@ma=
rvin-desktop:~$ </font><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148355=
8894421_19197" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_1919=
6"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19541" face=3D"Courier New, =
courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif">marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ <b id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20016">rm -f copy copy2 copy2~ ; cp /etc/res=
olv.conf.orig copy ; cp /etc/resolv.conf copy</b>2<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483558894421_19328">marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ <b>cat copy copy2</b><br i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19329"># Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file f=
or glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483558894421_19330">#&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAN=
D -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894=
421_19331">nameserver 127.0.1.1<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19=
332">search lan<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19333"># Dynamic r=
esolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19334">#&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DO NOT=
 EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN<br id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19335">nameserver 194.146.109.223<br id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19336">nameserver 194.146.109.224<br id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_19337">search lan<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
558894421_19338">marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ <b>strace coreutils-devel/bin/ln =
-b -fo copy copy2</b><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20544">execv=
e("coreutils-devel/bin/ln", ["coreutils-devel/bin/ln", "-b", "-fo", "copy",=
 "copy2"], [/* 65 vars */]) =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_=
20545">brk(NULL)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0xa036000<br id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20546">access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)<br id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20547">mmap2(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRI=
TE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =3D 0xb7745000<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1483558894421_20548">access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)<br id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20549">open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC)=
 =3D 3<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20550">fstat64(3, {st_mode=
=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D127411, ...}) =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
483558894421_20551">mmap2(NULL, 127411, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =3D 0=
xb7725000<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20552">close(3)&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_=
20553">access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D=
 -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148355889=
4421_20554">open("/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) =3D 3=
<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20555">read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\3\0=
\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320\207\1\0004\0\0\0"..., 512) =3D 512<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20556">fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|07=
55, st_size=3D1786484, ...}) =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421=
_20557">mmap2(NULL, 1792540, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE=
, 3, 0) =3D 0xb756f000<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20558">mpro=
tect(0xb771e000, 4096, PROT_NONE)&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483558894421_20559">mmap2(0xb771f000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP=
_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1af000) =3D 0xb771f000<br id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20560">mmap2(0xb7722000, 10780, PROT_READ|PROT_=
WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =3D 0xb7722000<br id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20561">close(3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20562">mmap2(NULL, =
4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =3D 0xb756e00=
0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20563">set_thread_area({entry_nu=
mber:-1, base_addr:0xb756e940, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read=
_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) =3D 0 (entry=
_number:6)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20564">mprotect(0xb771f=
000, 8192, PROT_READ)&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835588=
94421_20565">mprotect(0x8058000, 4096, PROT_READ)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<b=
r id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20566">mprotect(0xb776a000, 4096, P=
ROT_READ)&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20567"=
>munmap(0xb7725000, 127411)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835588944=
21_20568">brk(NULL)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0xa036000<br id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20569">brk(0xa057000)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0xa057000<br id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20570">open("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive=
", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE|O_CLOEXEC) =3D 3<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558=
894421_20571">fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D4229984, ...}) =
=3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20572">mmap2(NULL, 2097152, =
PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =3D 0xb736e000<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3558894421_20573">mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0x2d4000) =
=3D 0xb7744000<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20574">close(3)&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148355889=
4421_20575">stat64("copy2", {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D216, ...}) =
=3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20576">open("/usr/share/loca=
le/locale.alias", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) =3D 3<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
558894421_20577">fstat64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D2995, ...}) =
=3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20578">read(3, "# Locale nam=
e alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) =3D 2995<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148355=
8894421_20579">read(3, "", 4096)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20580">close(=
3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3558894421_20581">open("/home/marvin/coreutils-devel/share/locale/en_US/LC_=
MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) =3D -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)=
<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20582">open("/home/marvin/coreuti=
ls-devel/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) =3D -1 ENOENT=
 (No such file or directory)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20583=
">open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONL=
Y) =3D -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3558894421_20584">open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils=
.mo", O_RDONLY) =3D 3<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20585">fstat=
64(3, {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D619, ...}) =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20586">mmap2(NULL, 619, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, =
0) =3D 0xb7743000<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20587">close(3)&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148355=
8894421_20588">lstat64("copy", {st_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D183, ...}=
) =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20589">lstat64("copy2", {s=
t_mode=3DS_IFREG|0644, st_size=3D216, ...}) =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1483558894421_20590">open(".", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTOR=
Y|O_CLOEXEC) =3D 3<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20591">fstat64(=
3, {st_mode=3DS_IFDIR|0755, st_size=3D12288, ...}) =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20592">getdents64(3, /* 152 entries */, 32768) =3D 5=
808<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20593">getdents64(3, /* 0 entr=
ies */, 32768)&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_2=
0594">close(3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20595"><b>link("copy2", "copy2~")&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20596">getpid()&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 3085<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148355889442=
1_20597">linkat(AT_FDCWD, "copy", AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", 0) =3D 0<br =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20598">renameat(AT_FDCWD, "copy.00308=
5.bak", AT_FDCWD, "copy2") =3D 0</b><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835588944=
21_20599">_llseek(0, 0, 0xbf9087a8, SEEK_CUR)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D -=
1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20600">clo=
se(0)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483558894421_20601">close(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20602">close(2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20603">exit_g=
roup(0)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D ?<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20604">+++ exi=
ted with 0 +++<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20605">marvin@marvi=
n-desktop:~$ <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20606">marvin@marvin=
-desktop:~$ <b>cat copy copy2 copy2~</b><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558=
894421_20744"># Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated=
 by resolvconf(8)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20745">#&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVER=
WRITTEN<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20746">nameserver 127.0.1.=
1<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20747">search lan<br id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20748"># Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc r=
esolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894=
421_20749">#&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR =
CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20750"=
>nameserver 127.0.1.1<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20751">searc=
h lan<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20752"># Dynamic resolv.conf=
(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)<br id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20753">#&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DO NOT EDIT THIS F=
ILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483558894421_20754">nameserver 194.146.109.223<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483558894421_20755">nameserver 194.146.109.224<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483558894421_20756">search lan<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_20=
757">marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483558894421_207=
58"></font></span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;=
 font-size: 13px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neu=
e, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=
=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 6:38 =
AM, Paul Eggert &lt;eggert@HIDDEN&gt; wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br=
> <div class=3D"y_msg_container">Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:<div class=3D=
"yqt5397295578" id=3D"yqtfd50581"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; It would suffice =
that:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest, 0) =
=3D=3D 0 || unlink (dest) =3D=3D 0 &amp;&amp; linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_=
CWDFD, dest, 0) =3D=3D 0;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; be replaced with:<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; linkat (AT_CWDFD, source, AT_CWDFD, dest_tmp, 0) =3D=3D 0 &a=
mp;&amp; renameat (AT_CWDFD, dest_tmp, AT_CWDFD, dest) =3D=3D 0;</div><br c=
lear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">It isn't that simple, since renameat is a =
no-op if the source and destination <br clear=3D"none">are already hard lin=
ks. So the patch you sent in would not work.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">Anyway, I'm not disagreeing with the basic idea, I'm merely saying I=
 don't see <br clear=3D"none">why we should have an option to keep the old =
behavior. Anybody who really wants <br clear=3D"none">the old behavior can =
do 'rm -f new &amp;&amp; ln old new' instead.<div class=3D"yqt5397295578" i=
d=3D"yqtfd50027"><br clear=3D"none"></div><br><br></div>  </div> </div>  </=
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Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> Please consider the trace below.

As I don't know what you're tracing, I don't know what to consider.

But really, the basic idea is simple: renameat mishandles the case where old and 
new names are already hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to work 
around this problem. (We can't easily change renameat's behavior, as the 
behavior is required by POSIX.)




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Pity, 'cause it works for me with a small workaround:link("copy2", "copy2~"=
)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
getpid()=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 3085
linkat(AT_FDCWD, "copy", AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", 0) =3D 0
renameat(AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", AT_FDCWD, "copy2") =3D 0
I did not exactly understand? What else can be moved, if not two hard links=
?Directory entry can be one of pointer to inode (file, directory or less li=
kely something else), or pointer to another directory entry (symbolic link)=
, ain't that right?
Can you please provide me with a reference of such behavior of renameat()? =
I realized just now that you want to make your code universal and protable.=
On Ubuntu Linux it works for me.
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ uname -a
Linux marvin-desktop 3.5.0-34-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:20:19 UTC=
 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ dpkg -l | egrep 'libc6'
ii=C2=A0 libc6:i386=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2.23-0ubunt=
u5=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 i386=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNU C=20

If you can provide me with a reference, I'll try to understand renameat() p=
roblem.
Best of luck in New Year,M.T.

=20

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:57 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> =
wrote:
=20

 Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> Please consider the trace below.

As I don't know what you're tracing, I don't know what to consider.

But really, the basic idea is simple: renameat mishandles the case where ol=
d and=20
new names are already hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to w=
ork=20
around this problem. (We can't easily change renameat's behavior, as the=20
behavior is required by POSIX.)


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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39521=
"><span>Pity, 'cause it works for me with a small workaround:</span></div><=
div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39540" dir=3D"ltr"><span></span><=
span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, =
sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">link("copy2", "=
copy2~")&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_39551" clear=3D"none">getpid()&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 30=
85<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39552" clear=3D"none">linkat(AT=
_FDCWD, "copy", AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", 0) =3D 0<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1483589602794_39553" clear=3D"none">renameat(AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.b=
ak", AT_FDCWD, "copy2") =3D 0</b></font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39573"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835=
89602794_39548"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549"><b id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br></b></font></span></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39598"><span id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
39549">I did not exactly understand? What else can be moved, if not two har=
d links?</font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358=
9602794_39901"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549">Directory entry can be one of po=
inter to inode (file, directory or less likely something else), or pointer =
to another directory entry (symbolic link), ain't that right?</font></span>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39736"><span i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39895"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483589602794_39548">Can you please provide me with a reference of such =
behavior of renameat()? I realized just now that you want to make your code=
 universal and protable.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483589602794_39982"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">=
On Ubuntu Linux it works for me.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_41656"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794=
_39548"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_41731"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-ser=
if"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_42002"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ uname -a<br id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_41853">Linux marvin-desktop 3.5.0-34-generic #5=
5-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:20:19 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_41854">marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ dpkg -l=
 | egrep 'libc6'<br></span></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_41655"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, =
monospace, sans-serif"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><=
b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_42006">ii&nbsp; libc6:i386&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp; i386&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GNU C <=
/b><br></span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589=
602794_39594"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, courier, mo=
naco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550=
"><br></b></font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
589602794_42000"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, courier, m=
onaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_3955=
0">If you can provide me with a reference, I'll try to understand renameat(=
) problem.</b></font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483589602794_42089"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><fo=
nt id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, courie=
r, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
39550"><br></b></font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1483589602794_42119"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><f=
ont id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, couri=
er, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794=
_39550">Best of luck in New Year,</b></font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
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lass=3D"y_msg_container">Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:<div class=3D"yqt0726=
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none">But really, the basic idea is simple: renameat mishandles the case wh=
ere old and <br clear=3D"none">new names are already hard links, and any co=
de based on renameat needs to work <br clear=3D"none">around this problem. =
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The trace above should do a ln -b -f src dest, linking (hard linking to exi=
sting file providing a backup in "dest~", without at suffix and stuff, whic=
h is not important for the story):

EXAMPLE WITH BACKUP: ln -b -f src dest
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 initi=
ally we have:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 "src" -> inode1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "dest" -> inode2
link ("dest", "dest~");
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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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 -> inode1
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "dest=
" -> inode2=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 "dest~" -> inode2
link ("src", "src.######.bak");=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 now:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "src" -> inode1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "src.######.bak" -> inode1=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "dest" -> inod=
e2=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "d=
est~" -> inode2
rename ("src.######.bak", "dest");=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 finally:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "src" -> inode1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "dest" -> inode1=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "dest~" -> inode2
Result is that "new" is backed up in "new~" "simulaneously", that is in sin=
gle command while hard link "old" overwrites hard link "new".

The -b (backup) is optional, in which case we have only black parts, as fol=
lows:

WITHOUT BACKUP: ln -f src dest

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 initially we have:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "src" -> inode1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "dest" -> inode2
link ("src", "src.######.bak");=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 now:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "src" -> inode1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "src.######.bak" =
-> inode1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 "src" -> inode2rename ("src.######.bak", "dest");=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 finally:=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "src"=
 -> inode1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 "dest" -> inode1=20
Where initial content of file "dest" was lost.Of course, it would be much b=
etter if linkat() had additional flag:
int linkat (AT_CWDFD, "source", AT_CWDFD, "dest", AT_SYMLINK_FOLLOW | AT_FO=
RCE_OVERWRITE);
but as you have correctly said, we cannot influence POSIX and Linux kernel =
makers.
Sorry if I took too much of your time. Thank Heavens for such good and logi=
cal design of UN*X filesystems.

Regards and All the best,M.T.
___________________________________________________________________________=
____________

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 9:50 AM, Mirsad Goran Todorovac <mtodorov3=
_69@HIDDEN> wrote:
=20

 Pity, 'cause it works for me with a small workaround:link("copy2", "copy2~=
")=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
getpid()=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 3085
linkat(AT_FDCWD, "copy", AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", 0) =3D 0
renameat(AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", AT_FDCWD, "copy2") =3D 0
I did not exactly understand? What else can be moved, if not two hard links=
?Directory entry can be one of pointer to inode (file, directory or less li=
kely something else), or pointer to another directory entry (symbolic link)=
, ain't that right?
Can you please provide me with a reference of such behavior of renameat()? =
I realized just now that you want to make your code universal and protable.=
On Ubuntu Linux it works for me.
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ uname -a
Linux marvin-desktop 3.5.0-34-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:20:19 UTC=
 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ dpkg -l | egrep 'libc6'
ii=C2=A0 libc6:i386=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2.23-0ubunt=
u5=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 i386=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNU C=20

If you can provide me with a reference, I'll try to understand renameat() p=
roblem.
Best of luck in New Year,M.T.

=20

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:57 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> =
wrote:
=20

 Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> Please consider the trace below.

As I don't know what you're tracing, I don't know what to consider.

But really, the basic idea is simple: renameat mishandles the case where ol=
d and=20
new names are already hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to w=
ork=20
around this problem. (We can't easily change renameat's behavior, as the=20
behavior is required by POSIX.)


  =20

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"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">The trace above should=
 do a <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47544">ln -b -f src dest</b>=
, linking (hard linking to existing file providing a backup in <b>"dest~"</=
b>, without at suffix and stuff, which is not important for the story):<br>=
</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43140"><span id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47809" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83589602794_43040">EXAMPLE WITH BACKUP: <font face=3D"Courier New, courier,=
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937">ln -b -f src dest</b></font><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yu=
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b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47679"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
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s-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47677"><span id=3D"yui_3_=
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45555"><font id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47704" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, mono=
space, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47703"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode2<br></span></b></f=
ont></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43233" dir=3D"ltr"><fo=
nt face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b><font id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45217" color=3D"#4c76a2"><span id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">link ("dest", "dest~");<br></span></fo=
nt></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44932"><font=
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_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47709" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monosp=
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1<br></span></font></b></f=
ont></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44930"><font id=3D"yui=
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onospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47722"><font=
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;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode2</span></font></b></f=
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_1483589602794_45214" color=3D"#4c76a2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest~" -&gt; inode2</font><br></span></=
b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43245" dir=3D"ltr=
"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b><sp=
an id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">link ("src", "src.######.ba=
k");</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4494=
1"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47748" face=3D"Courier New, =
courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_47747"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now:</span></b><=
/font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43618"><font id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47746" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco,=
 monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47745"><sp=
an id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1</span></b></f=
ont></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45073"><font id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47676" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, m=
onospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47675"><span=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src.######.bak" -&gt; inode1</spa=
n></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45075"><font =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47754" face=3D"Courier New, courier, =
monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_477=
53"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode2</span=
></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45074"><font i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47757" face=3D"Courier New, courier, m=
onaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4775=
6"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483589602794_47755" color=3D"#4c76a2">"dest~" -&gt; inode2</font><br><=
/span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43243" di=
r=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif=
"><b><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">rename ("src.######=
.bak", "dest");</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589=
602794_43235"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47780" face=3D"Co=
urier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483589602794_47779"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; final=
ly:</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45633=
"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47789" face=3D"Courier New, c=
ourier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_47788"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src</span><span =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">" -&gt; inode1</span></b></fon=
t></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44942"><font id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47787" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, mon=
ospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47786"><span i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font=
></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44887"><font id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47785" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, mono=
space, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47784"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589=
602794_45616" color=3D"#4c76a2">"dest~" -&gt; inode2</font></span></b></fon=
t></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44944"><font face=3D"Cou=
rier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"><br></span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45083"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794=
_47669"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">Result is that "=
new" is backed up in "new~" "simulaneously", that is in single command whil=
e hard link "old" overwrites hard link "new".<br></span></font></div><div i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45608"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
483589602794_43040"><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_43237"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47867" face=3D"Cour=
ier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483589602794_43040"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47899"=
 face=3D"HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sa=
ns-serif">The -b (backup) is optional, in which case we have only black par=
ts, as follows:</font></span><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47866=
"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"><br></span></b></font>=
</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47901"><font id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47867" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monos=
pace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47866"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"><br></span></b></font></div><div=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47921"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1483589602794_47867" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans=
-serif"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">WITHOUT BACKUP:<=
/span><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47866"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"> ln -f src dest<br></span></b></font></div><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45301"><font face=3D"Courier New, =
courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83589602794_45302"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45303"></span>=
</b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_453=
04"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47980" face=3D"Courier New,=
 courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589=
602794_47979"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45305">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; initially=
 we have:</span></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
483589602794_45306"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47844" face=
=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47843"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4=
5307">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45308"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_47842" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47841"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1483589602794_45309">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode2<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835=
89602794_45310"></span></b></font></div><font face=3D"Courier New, courier,=
 monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602=
794_45330">link ("src", "src.######.bak");</span></b></font><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45331"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602=
794_47924" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47923"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483589602794_45332">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now:</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483589602794_45333"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47840"=
 face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47839"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602=
794_45334">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1483589602794_45335"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47=
898" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47897"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358=
9602794_45336">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src.######.bak" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45337"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
483589602794_47834" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-s=
erif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47833"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45338">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode2</span></b></font></div><f=
ont face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b><span i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45344">rename ("src.######.bak", "dest=
");</span></b></font><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45345"><fon=
t id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_48020" face=3D"Courier New, courier=
, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4=
8019"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45346">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; finally:</span></=
b></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45347"><font id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_48018" face=3D"Courier New, courier, mo=
naco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_48017=
"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45348">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1</s=
pan></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794=
_45349"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47896" face=3D"Courier =
New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3589602794_47895"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45350">&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest=
" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45099"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_45369"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45698">Wh=
ere initial content of file <b>"dest"</b> was lost.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45703">Of course, it would be much better if <b>li=
nkat()</b> had additional flag:</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_45718"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_47339"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47470">int linkat (AT_CWD=
FD, "source", AT_CWDFD, "dest", AT_SYMLINK_FOLLOW | AT_FORCE_OVERWRITE);</b=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47390"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47396">but as yo=
u have correctly said, we cannot influence POSIX and Linux kernel makers.</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47429"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47430">Sorry if I t=
ook too much of your time. Thank Heavens for such good and logical design o=
f UN*X filesystems.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835=
89602794_47435"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_47436">Regards and All the best,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47451">M.T.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_47452"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483589602794_48063">__________________________________________________=
_____________________________________<br></div><br></div><div class=3D"yaho=
o_quoted" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45158" style=3D"display: bl=
ock;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,=
 Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1483589602794_45157"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica=
 Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45156"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_45165"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_451=
63" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, January 5, 2017 9:50 AM, Mirsad=
 Goran Todorovac &lt;mtodorov3_69@HIDDEN&gt; wrote:<br></font></div>  <b=
r><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794=
_45190"><div id=3D"yiv0006961443"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_45189"><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helveti=
caNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45188"><div id=3D"yiv000696=
1443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39521"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83589602794_45187">Pity, 'cause it works for me with a small workaround:</s=
pan></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_39540"><span></span><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_39548"><font id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549"=
 face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv0=
006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">link("copy2", "copy2~")&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_39551" clear=3D"none">getpid()&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 3=
085<br id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39552" clear=3D"n=
one">linkat(AT_FDCWD, "copy", AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", 0) =3D 0<br id=
=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39553" clear=3D"none">rena=
meat(AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", AT_FDCWD, "copy2") =3D 0</b></font></span=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
39573"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><fon=
t id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549"><b id=3D"yiv000=
6961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br clear=3D"none"></b></font=
></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589=
602794_39598"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_3954=
8"><font id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549">I did no=
t exactly understand? What else can be moved, if not two hard links?</font>=
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_39901"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548=
"><font id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549">Directory=
 entry can be one of pointer to inode (file, directory or less likely somet=
hing else), or pointer to another directory entry (symbolic link), ain't th=
at right?</font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1483589602794_39736"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3589602794_39548"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yi=
v0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39895"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">Can you please provide me with a ref=
erence of such behavior of renameat()? I realized just now that you want to=
 make your code universal and protable.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"=
yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39982"><span id=3D"yiv00069614=
43yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">On Ubuntu Linux it works for me.</=
span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602=
794_41656"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">=
<br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_41731"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco,=
 monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_42002"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">m=
arvin@marvin-desktop:~$ uname -a<br id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83589602794_41853" clear=3D"none">Linux marvin-desktop 3.5.0-34-generic #55=
-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:20:19 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux<br id=3D=
"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_41854" clear=3D"none">marvin@=
marvin-desktop:~$ dpkg -l | egrep 'libc6'<br clear=3D"none"></span></b></fo=
nt></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_41655"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"=
><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><b id=3D"y=
iv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_42006">ii&nbsp; libc6:i386&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.23-0ubuntu5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; i386&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GNU=
 C </b><br clear=3D"none"></span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv000=
6961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39594"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sa=
ns-serif"><b id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br =
clear=3D"none"></b></font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_42000"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-seri=
f"><b id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">If you can =
provide me with a reference, I'll try to understand renameat() problem.</b>=
</font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
483589602794_42089"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_39548"><font id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" fa=
ce=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv0006=
961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br clear=3D"none"></b></font>=
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_42119"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548=
"><font id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"C=
ourier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv0006961443y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">Best of luck in New Year,</b></font><=
/span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_42121"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"=
><font id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Co=
urier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv0006961443yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">M.T.</b></font></span></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><f=
ont id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Couri=
er New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br clear=3D"none"></b></font></span></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39682=
"><span id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=
=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New=
, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv0006961443yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br clear=3D"none"></b></font></span></div> <di=
v class=3D"yiv0006961443qtdSeparateBR"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div class=3D"yiv0006961443yqt9226908023" id=3D"yiv0006961443yqt036=
73"><div class=3D"yiv0006961443yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display:block;"> <div=
 style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Luci=
da Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
Neue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size=
:16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, Jan=
uary 5, 2017 8:57 AM, Paul Eggert &lt;eggert@HIDDEN&gt; wrote:<br clea=
r=3D"none"></font></div>  <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=
=3D"yiv0006961443y_msg_container">Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:<div class=
=3D"yiv0006961443yqt0726665938" id=3D"yiv0006961443yqtfd23706"><br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; Please consider the trace below.</div><br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">As I don't know what you're tracing, I don't know what to cons=
ider.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">But really, the basic idea is si=
mple: renameat mishandles the case where old and <br clear=3D"none">new nam=
es are already hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to work <br=
 clear=3D"none">around this problem. (We can't easily change renameat's beh=
avior, as the <br clear=3D"none">behavior is required by POSIX.)<div class=
=3D"yiv0006961443yqt0726665938" id=3D"yiv0006961443yqtfd50656"><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>  </div> </div>  <=
/div></div></div></div></div><br><br></div>  </div> </div>  </div></div></b=
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P.S.
Obvious advantage is that unlink ("dest") is not required if it exists, thu=
s we offer a workaround for race condition.In first example:
# ln -f /etc/resolv.conf.new /etc/resolv.conf
there was a time period between
unlink ("/etc/resolv.conf"); andlinkat (AT_CDWFD, "/etc/resolv.conf.new", A=
T_CWDFD, "/etc/resolv.conf", logical ? AT_SYMLINK_FOLLOW : 0);

between these two syscalls process or thread may be preempted and other pro=
cess (like browser) could fail in gethostbyname().This is just one example.
I will torment you no longer. Thank you for your patience Sir if you've rea=
d thus far. God bless!

little brother Mirsad=20

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:24 AM, Mirsad Goran Todorovac <mtodorov=
3_69@HIDDEN> wrote:
=20

 The trace above should do a ln -b -f src dest, linking (hard linking to ex=
isting file providing a backup in "dest~", without at suffix and stuff, whi=
ch is not important for the story):

EXAMPLE WITH BACKUP: ln -b -f src dest
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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Result is that "new" is backed up in "new~" "simulaneously", that is in sin=
gle command while hard link "old" overwrites hard link "new".

The -b (backup) is optional, in which case we have only black parts, as fol=
lows:

WITHOUT BACKUP: ln -f src dest

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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 "dest" -> inode1=20
Where initial content of file "dest" was lost.Of course, it would be much b=
etter if linkat() had additional flag:
int linkat (AT_CWDFD, "source", AT_CWDFD, "dest", AT_SYMLINK_FOLLOW | AT_FO=
RCE_OVERWRITE);
but as you have correctly said, we cannot influence POSIX and Linux kernel =
makers.
Sorry if I took too much of your time. Thank Heavens for such good and logi=
cal design of UN*X filesystems.

Regards and All the best,M.T.
___________________________________________________________________________=
____________

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 9:50 AM, Mirsad Goran Todorovac <mtodorov3=
_69@HIDDEN> wrote:
=20

 Pity, 'cause it works for me with a small workaround:link("copy2", "copy2~=
")=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0
getpid()=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 3085
linkat(AT_FDCWD, "copy", AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", 0) =3D 0
renameat(AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", AT_FDCWD, "copy2") =3D 0
I did not exactly understand? What else can be moved, if not two hard links=
?Directory entry can be one of pointer to inode (file, directory or less li=
kely something else), or pointer to another directory entry (symbolic link)=
, ain't that right?
Can you please provide me with a reference of such behavior of renameat()? =
I realized just now that you want to make your code universal and protable.=
On Ubuntu Linux it works for me.
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ uname -a
Linux marvin-desktop 3.5.0-34-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:20:19 UTC=
 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
marvin@marvin-desktop:~$ dpkg -l | egrep 'libc6'
ii=C2=A0 libc6:i386=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2.23-0ubunt=
u5=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 i386=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNU C=20

If you can provide me with a reference, I'll try to understand renameat() p=
roblem.
Best of luck in New Year,M.T.

=20

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:57 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> =
wrote:
=20

 Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> Please consider the trace below.

As I don't know what you're tracing, I don't know what to consider.

But really, the basic idea is simple: renameat mishandles the case where ol=
d and=20
new names are already hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to w=
ork=20
around this problem. (We can't easily change renameat's behavior, as the=20
behavior is required by POSIX.)


  =20

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ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49426=
">P.S.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49431"><br></div><di=
v>Obvious advantage is that unlink ("dest") is not required if it exists, t=
hus we offer a workaround for race condition.</div><div>In first example:</=
div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49433"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49435"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1483589602794_49513" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace,=
 sans-serif"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49512"># ln -f /etc/r=
esolv.conf.new /etc/resolv.conf</b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49437"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49515">there was a time period between</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49673"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49683"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1483589602794_49911">unlink ("/etc/resolv.conf"); </b>and</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49684"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1483589602794_49909">linkat (AT_CDWFD, "/etc/resolv.conf.new", AT_C=
WDFD, "/etc/resolv.conf", logical ? AT_SYMLINK_FOLLOW : 0);</b><br></div><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49439"><span><br></span></div><div=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49688" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49717">between these two syscalls process or thr=
ead may be preempted and other process (like browser) could fail in gethost=
byname().</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_49745"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49717">This is just on=
e example.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_49774"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49717"><br></span></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49845"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49717">I will torment you no longer. Th=
ank you for your patience Sir if you've read thus far. God bless!<br></span=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49805"><span =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49717"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49806"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483589602794_49717">little brother Mirsad</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_49843"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1483589602794_49717"></span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></=
div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"fo=
nt-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;=
"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, January 5=
, 2017 10:24 AM, Mirsad Goran Todorovac &lt;mtodorov3_69@HIDDEN&gt; wrot=
e:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv=
8943697467"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family=
:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif=
;font-size:13px;"><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4=
3035"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">The t=
race above should do a <b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_47544">ln -b -f src dest</b>, linking (hard linking to existing file prov=
iding a backup in <b>"dest~"</b>, without at suffix and stuff, which is not=
 important for the story):<br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div id=3D"yiv894=
3697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43140"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47809"><span id=
=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">EXAMPLE WITH BACKUP=
: <font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=
=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47937">ln -b -f src dest</=
b></font><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv89436974=
67yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45218"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47680" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospa=
ce, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47679=
"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; initially we h=
ave:</span></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_43392"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
589602794_47678" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-seri=
f"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47677"><span id=3D=
"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1</span></=
b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358=
9602794_45555"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_477=
04" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"y=
iv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47703"><span id=3D"yiv894369746=
7yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode2<br clear=3D"none"></=
span></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1483589602794_43233"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace=
, sans-serif"><b><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4=
5217" color=3D"#4c76a2"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_43040">link ("dest", "dest~");<br clear=3D"none"></span></font></b></=
font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44932"><=
font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47711" face=3D"Cour=
ier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47710"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483589602794_45396" color=3D"#4c76a2"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now:</span></font></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv=
8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44935"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47709" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco,=
 monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_47708"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45402" c=
olor=3D"#4c76a2"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4=
3040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 "src" -&gt; inode1<br clear=3D"none"></span></font></b></font></div><div i=
d=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44930"><font id=3D"yiv894=
3697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47723" face=3D"Courier New, courier,=
 monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3589602794_47722"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
45216" color=3D"#4c76a2"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589=
602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode2</span></font></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv89=
43697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43520"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47733" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, m=
onospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794=
_47732"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"><fo=
nt id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45214" color=3D"#4c76=
a2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "=
dest~" -&gt; inode2</font><br clear=3D"none"></span></b></font></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43245"><font =
face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b><span id=3D=
"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">link ("src", "src.####=
##.bak");</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483589602794_44941"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_47748" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b i=
d=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47747"><span id=3D"yiv894=
3697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now:</span></b></font></div><div i=
d=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43618"><font id=3D"yiv894=
3697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47746" face=3D"Courier New, courier,=
 monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3589602794_47745"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; "src" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45073"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483589602794_47676" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-=
serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47675"><span i=
d=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src.######.bak" -&gt; =
inode1</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3589602794_45075"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
47754" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=
=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47753"><span id=3D"yiv8943=
697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode2</span></b></fon=
t></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45074"><fon=
t id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47757" face=3D"Courier=
 New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_1=
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1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47=
755" color=3D"#4c76a2">"dest~" -&gt; inode2</font><br clear=3D"none"></span=
></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3589602794_43243"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sa=
ns-serif"><b><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040=
">rename ("src.######.bak", "dest");</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8=
943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43235"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47780" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, =
monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_47779"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; finally=
:</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_45633"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47789=
" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv=
8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47788"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src</span><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div=
 id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44942"><font id=3D"yiv8=
943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47787" face=3D"Courier New, courie=
r, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
483589602794_47786"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960279=
4_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; "dest" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_44887"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483589602794_47785" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sa=
ns-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47784"><spa=
n id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font id=3D"yiv89436=
97467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45616" color=3D"#4c76a2">"dest~" -&gt;=
 inode2</font></span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1483589602794_44944"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monos=
pace, sans-serif"><b><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_43040"><br clear=3D"none"></span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv89436974=
67yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45083"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47669"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83589602794_43040">Result is that "new" is backed up in "new~" "simulaneous=
ly", that is in single command while hard link "old" overwrites hard link "=
new".<br clear=3D"none"></span></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45608"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483589602794_43040"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div id=3D"yiv89436974=
67yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43237"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47867" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospa=
ce, sans-serif"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43=
040"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47899" face=
=3D"HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-se=
rif">The -b (backup) is optional, in which case we have only black parts, a=
s follows:</font></span><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_47866"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"><=
br clear=3D"none"></span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47901"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83589602794_47867" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-se=
rif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47866"><span id=
=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"><br clear=3D"none">=
</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_47921"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47867"=
 face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><span id=3D"y=
iv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040">WITHOUT BACKUP:</span><b=
 id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47866"><span id=3D"yiv8=
943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_43040"> ln -f src dest<br clear=3D=
"none"></span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
83589602794_45301"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, s=
ans-serif"><b><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4530=
2"><br id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45303" clear=3D"n=
one"></span></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1483589602794_45304"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3589602794_47980" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-ser=
if"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47979"><span id=
=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45305">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; initially we have:=
</span></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483589602794_45306"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_47844" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><=
b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47843"><span id=3D"yiv=
8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45307">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1</span>=
</b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
589602794_45308"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4=
7842" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D=
"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47841"><span id=3D"yiv8943697=
467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45309">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode2<br id=3D"yiv=
8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45310" clear=3D"none"></span></b>=
</font></div><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-se=
rif"><b><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45330">lin=
k ("src", "src.######.bak");</span></b></font><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45331"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1483589602794_47924" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, san=
s-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47923"><span=
 id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45332">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now:</span></b>=
</font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45333"=
><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47840" face=3D"Co=
urier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47839"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1483589602794_45334">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div i=
d=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45335"><font id=3D"yiv894=
3697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47898" face=3D"Courier New, courier,=
 monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148=
3589602794_47897"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
45336">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; "src.######.bak" -&gt; inode1</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv=
8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45337"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47834" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco,=
 monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896027=
94_47833"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45338">&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
"src" -&gt; inode2</span></b></font></div><font face=3D"Courier New, courie=
r, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1483589602794_45344">rename ("src.######.bak", "dest");</span></b></fo=
nt><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45345"><font id=
=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_48020" face=3D"Courier New=
, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_48019"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
589602794_45346">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; finally:</span></b></font></div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45347"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1483589602794_48018" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace,=
 sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_48017"><=
span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45348">&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "src" -&gt;=
 inode1</span></b></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45349"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
483589602794_47896" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-s=
erif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47895"><span id=
=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45350">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dest" -&gt; inode=
1</span></b></font></div> <div class=3D"yiv8943697467qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"y=
iv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45099"><div id=3D"yiv8943697467=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45369"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"=
yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45698">Where initial content o=
f file <b>"dest"</b> was lost.</div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1483589602794_45703">Of course, it would be much better if <b>linkat()</=
b> had additional flag:</div><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
589602794_45718"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697=
467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47339"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_47470">int linkat (AT_CWDFD, "source", AT_CWDFD, "dest=
", AT_SYMLINK_FOLLOW | AT_FORCE_OVERWRITE);</b></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47390"><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4739=
6">but as you have correctly said, we cannot influence POSIX and Linux kern=
el makers.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835=
89602794_47429"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv89436974=
67yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47430">Sorry if I took too much of your t=
ime. Thank Heavens for such good and logical design of UN*X filesystems.<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1483589602794_47435"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv89=
43697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_47436">Regards and All the best,</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4745=
1">M.T.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14835896=
02794_47452"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_48063">_____________________________________=
__________________________________________________<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv8943697467yqt2949173975" id=3D"yi=
v8943697467yqt55311"><div class=3D"yiv8943697467yahoo_quoted" id=3D"yiv8943=
697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45158" style=3D"display:block;"> <div=
 id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45157" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;"> <div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602=
794_45156" style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, A=
rial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yi=
v8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45165"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45163" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursd=
ay, January 5, 2017 9:50 AM, Mirsad Goran Todorovac &lt;mtodorov3_69@yahoo.=
com&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></font></div>  <br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv8943697467y_msg_container" id=3D"yiv8943697467=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45190"><div id=3D"yiv8943697467"><div id=3D=
"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45189"><div id=3D"yiv89436974=
67yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_45188" style=3D"color:#000;background-col=
or:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida=
 Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483589602794_39521"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589=
602794_45187">Pity, 'cause it works for me with a small workaround:</span><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39=
540"><span></span><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
39548"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=
=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv894369=
7467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">link("copy2", "copy2~")&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 0<br id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39=
551" clear=3D"none">getpid()&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 3085<b=
r id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39552" clear=3D"none">=
linkat(AT_FDCWD, "copy", AT_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", 0) =3D 0<br id=3D"yiv=
8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39553" clear=3D"none">renameat(AT=
_FDCWD, "copy.003085.bak", AT_FDCWD, "copy2") =3D 0</b></font></span></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39573">=
<span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=3D=
"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br clear=3D"none"></b></font></span=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
39598"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><fon=
t id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549">I did not exact=
ly understand? What else can be moved, if not two hard links?</font></span>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_3=
9901"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font=
 id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549">Directory entry =
can be one of pointer to inode (file, directory or less likely something el=
se), or pointer to another directory entry (symbolic link), ain't that righ=
t?</font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1483589602794_39736"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602=
794_39548"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv894369=
7467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39895"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">Can you please provide me with a reference =
of such behavior of renameat()? I realized just now that you want to make y=
our code universal and protable.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943=
697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39982"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">On Ubuntu Linux it works for me.</span></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_416=
56"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1483589602794_41731"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monosp=
ace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_4200=
2"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548">marvin@m=
arvin-desktop:~$ uname -a<br id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_41853" clear=3D"none">Linux marvin-desktop 3.5.0-34-generic #55-Ubuntu=
 SMP Thu Jun 6 20:20:19 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux<br id=3D"yiv894=
3697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_41854" clear=3D"none">marvin@marvin-=
desktop:~$ dpkg -l | egrep 'libc6'<br clear=3D"none"></span></b></font></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_41655=
"><font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><span =
id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><b id=3D"yiv89436=
97467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_42006">ii&nbsp; libc6:i386&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.23-0ubuntu5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; i386&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GNU C </b>=
<br clear=3D"none"></span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39594"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-seri=
f"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br clear=
=3D"none"></b></font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_42000"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358960=
2794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b=
 id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">If you can provi=
de me with a reference, I'll try to understand renameat() problem.</b></fon=
t></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148358=
9602794_42089"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_395=
48"><font id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D=
"Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv894369746=
7yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550"><br clear=3D"none"></b></font></spa=
n></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794=
_42119"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><fo=
nt id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courie=
r New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">Best of luck in New Year,</b></font></span=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_=
42121"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><fon=
t id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier=
 New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39550">M.T.</b></font></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><span id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39548"><font id=
=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New=
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8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483589602794_39549" face=3D"Courier New, couri=
er, monaco, monospace, sans-serif"><b id=3D"yiv8943697467yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483589602794_39550"><br clear=3D"none"></b></font></span></div> <div class=
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Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;=
"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, January 5=
, 2017 8:57 AM, Paul Eggert &lt;eggert@HIDDEN&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"n=
one"></font></div>  <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yi=
v8943697467y_msg_container">Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:<div class=3D"yiv8=
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gt; Please consider the trace below.</div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">As I don't know what you're tracing, I don't know what to consider.<br=
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nameat mishandles the case where old and <br clear=3D"none">new names are a=
lready hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to work <br clear=
=3D"none">around this problem. (We can't easily change renameat's behavior,=
 as the <br clear=3D"none">behavior is required by POSIX.)<div class=3D"yiv=
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But really, the basic idea is simple: renameat mishandles the case where ol=
d and=20
new names are already hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to w=
ork=20
around this problem. (We can't easily change renameat's behavior, as the=20
behavior is required by POSIX.)
It isn't that simple, since renameat is a no-op if the source and destinati=
on=20
are already hard links. So the patch you sent in would not work.
Dear Sir,
I might have then misinterpreted following paragraph fromman renameat(2) ma=
n page:
DESCRIPTION
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 rename()=C2=A0 renames=C2=A0 a=C2=A0 f=
ile,=C2=A0 moving it between directories if required.=C2=A0 Any other hard
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 links to the file (as created using li=
nk(2)) are unaffected.=C2=A0 Open file descriptors for
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 oldpath are also unaffected.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 If newpath already exists, it will be =
atomically replaced (subject to a few conditions;
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 see ERRORS below), so that there is no=
 point at which=C2=A0 another=C2=A0 process=C2=A0 attempting=C2=A0 to
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 access newpath will find it missing.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 If=C2=A0 oldpath=C2=A0 and=C2=A0 newpa=
th=C2=A0 are=C2=A0 existing=C2=A0 hard=C2=A0 links=C2=A0 referring to the s=
ame file, then
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 rename() does nothing, and returns a s=
uccess status.

In my test code, renamat (AT_CWDFD, oldpath, AT_CWDFD, newpath, flags); suc=
cessfully renames directory entry, yet inode number name in dir refers to i=
s unchanged.
Do you think our development team could write a paper on this issue? Then I=
 could justify drawing a schematic diagram?Is it trivial or is there some j=
ustified reason to publish and explain in detail?
Thank you very much.
Regards,
M.T.
=20

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:57 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> =
wrote:
=20

 Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> Please consider the trace below.

As I don't know what you're tracing, I don't know what to consider.

But really, the basic idea is simple: renameat mishandles the case where ol=
d and=20
new names are already hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to w=
ork=20
around this problem. (We can't easily change renameat's behavior, as the=20
behavior is required by POSIX.)


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ere old and <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7405" clear=3D"none">=
new names are already hard links, and any code based on renameat needs to w=
ork <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7406" clear=3D"none">around t=
his problem. (We can't easily change renameat's behavior, as the <br id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7407" clear=3D"none">behavior is required b=
y POSIX.)</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148383276475=
9_7667"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7529" color=3D"#440062"=
><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_75=
27"><font color=3D"#440062">It isn't that simple, since renameat is a no-op=
 if the source and destination <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_76=
53" clear=3D"none">are already hard links. So the patch you sent in would n=
ot work.</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759=
_7409"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_769=
4">Dear Sir,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I might have =
then misinterpreted following paragraph fromman renameat(2) man page:</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7768"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7767">DESCRIPTION<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7823">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; rename()&nbsp; renames&nbsp; a&nbsp; file,&nbsp; moving it between dire=
ctories if required.&nbsp; Any other hard<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148383=
2764759_7824">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; links to the file (as cr=
eated using link(2)) are unaffected.&nbsp; Open file descriptors for<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7825">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; oldpath are also unaffected.<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7=
826"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7827">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; If newpath already exists, it will be atomically replaced (s=
ubject to a few conditions;<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7828">=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; see ERRORS below), so that there is no=
 point at which&nbsp; another&nbsp; process&nbsp; attempting&nbsp; to<br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7829">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; access newpath will find it missing.<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832=
764759_7830"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7831">&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7889"> If&nb=
sp; oldpath&nbsp; and&nbsp; newpath&nbsp; are&nbsp; existing&nbsp;<font id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_8141" color=3D"#9d1811"> hard&nbsp; lin=
ks&nbsp; referring to the <font face=3D"Courier New, courier, monaco, monos=
pace, sans-serif">same file</font></font>, then<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1483832764759_7832">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; rename() does noth=
ing, and returns a success status.<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759=
_7833"></b><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_7834">In my test code,=
 renamat (AT_CWDFD, oldpath, AT_CWDFD, newpath, flags); successfully rename=
s directory entry, yet inode number name in dir refers to is unchanged.</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_8008"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_8252">Do you think our=
 development team could write a paper on this issue? Then I could justify d=
rawing a schematic diagram?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
483832764759_8143">Is it trivial or is there some justified reason to publi=
sh and explain in detail?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483832764759_8254">Thank you very much.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">M=
.T.<br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yaho=
o_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNe=
ue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size:=
 13px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetic=
a, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><f=
ont size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:57 AM, Paul E=
ggert &lt;eggert@HIDDEN&gt; wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div cla=
ss=3D"y_msg_container">Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:<div class=3D"yqt234850=
9626" id=3D"yqtfd51743"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; Please consider the trace b=
elow.</div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">As I don't know what you'r=
e tracing, I don't know what to consider.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne">But really, the basic idea is simple: renameat mishandles the case wher=
e old and <br clear=3D"none">new names are already hard links, and any code=
 based on renameat needs to work <br clear=3D"none">around this problem. (W=
e can't easily change renameat's behavior, as the <br clear=3D"none">behavi=
or is required by POSIX.)<div class=3D"yqt2348509626" id=3D"yqtfd83701"><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><br><br></div>  </div> </div>  </div></div></body></h=
tml>
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Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> Do you think our development team could write a paper on this issue? Then I could justify drawing a schematic diagram?Is it trivial or is there some justified reason to publish and explain in detail?

Sorry, I don't know what "development team" you're talking about. I don't see a 
need to write a paper about it, no. It's just code that needs to be written and 
tested, that's all.




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 Content preview: severity 25342 wishlist retitle 25342 ln: avoid race
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severity 25342 wishlist
retitle 25342 ln: avoid race condition with "ln -f src dst"





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