GNU bug report logs - #25699
GZIPs deprecated environment variable

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Package: gzip; Reported by: Bachsau <web@HIDDEN>; dated Sun, 12 Feb 2017 23:40:02 UTC; Maintainer for gzip is bug-gzip@HIDDEN.

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Subject: Re: bug#25699: GZIPs deprecated environment variable
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On 02/22/2017 11:17 AM, Bachsau wrote:
> Every package manager I know has special routines for handling 
> configuration files and configuration file changes.

Fine, then call the wrapper shell script a "configuration file". Or have 
the wrapper shell script source a "configuration file" that contains the 
settings that you want. Code is just another form of data, after all.





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Subject: Re: bug#25699: GZIPs deprecated environment variable
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On 02/22/2017 11:17 AM, Bachsau wrote:
> Every package manager I know has special routines for handling 
> configuration files and configuration file changes.

Fine, then call the wrapper shell script a "configuration file". Or have 
the wrapper shell script source a "configuration file" that contains the 
settings that you want. Code is just another form of data, after all.





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Am 14.02.2017 um 01:00 schrieb Paul Eggert:
> The same thing could happen to any global configuration file, too. Ther=
e
> is no functional difference between a configuration file and a shell
> wrapper.

This is not true. Every package manager I know has special routines for=20
handling configuration files and configuration file changes. Either by=20
just saving new configuration files aside (pacman) or by diffing and=20
integrating changes on request (apt/dpkg).


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Am 14.02.2017 um 01:00 schrieb Paul Eggert:
> The same thing could happen to any global configuration file, too. Ther=
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This is not true. Every package manager I know has special routines for=20
handling configuration files and configuration file changes. Either by=20
just saving new configuration files aside (pacman) or by diffing and=20
integrating changes on request (apt/dpkg).


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Am 13.02.2017 um 03:28 schrieb Paul Eggert:
> Sure it will. Just rename /bin/gzip to /bin/gzip.real, and create a
> shell script /bin/gzip that looks like this:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> exec gzip.real -9 "$@"
>
> You're the sysadmin, so you can do this. (And if you were not the
> sysadmin, you
> wouldn't be able to edit any global configuration file either.)

Of course I can. Until my distributions package manager replaces that=20
file again with the next regular update. You should know it is almost=20
always a bad idea to edit any files in /bin /sbin and /usr/*. The only=20
solution to this might be to place a script like this in /usr/local/bin, =

that will only work if the script thats calling it is using the right=20
$PATH and does not refer directly to /bin/gzip.


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Subject: Re: bug#25699: GZIPs deprecated environment variable
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On 02/13/2017 03:48 PM, Bachsau wrote:
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> Of course I can. Until my distributions package manager replaces that 
> file again with the next regular update.

The same thing could happen to any global configuration file, too. There 
is no functional difference between a configuration file and a shell 
wrapper. If your distributions package manager lets you edit one, you 
can edit the other. If not, not.





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Subject: Re: bug#25699: GZIPs deprecated environment variable
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On 02/13/2017 03:48 PM, Bachsau wrote:
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> Of course I can. Until my distributions package manager replaces that 
> file again with the next regular update.

The same thing could happen to any global configuration file, too. There 
is no functional difference between a configuration file and a shell 
wrapper. If your distributions package manager lets you edit one, you 
can edit the other. If not, not.





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Bachsau wrote:
> I can use an alias or script as suggested by gzip itself, but that will
> not be picked up by update scripts and such stuff

Sure it will. Just rename /bin/gzip to /bin/gzip.real, and create a shell script 
/bin/gzip that looks like this:

#!/bin/sh
exec gzip.real -9 "$@"

You're the sysadmin, so you can do this. (And if you were not the sysadmin, you 
wouldn't be able to edit any global configuration file either.)

The GZIP environment variable leads to functionality and security problems, 
which is why it's being deprecated.




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Hey!

As a sysadmin I want to decide about the default compression ratio=20
myself. This is why I set up a system wide environment variable with=20
GZIP=3D-9. Now it keeps tellig me that this is deprecated and will be=20
removed. But there is no replacement for it. I think gzip is in=20
desperate need of a global configuration file.

Sure, I can use an alias or script as suggested by gzip itself, but that =

will not be picked up by update scripts and such stuff, which build, for =

example, initial ramdisks, and come with the distribution. With=20
deprecating the environment variable an important way of influencing=20
gzip's behavior is taken from us.


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New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gzip@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gzip@HIDDEN:
bug#25699; Package gzip. Full text available.
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