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Evaluating the form below, the lower part of 'g' shape
remains to be displayed.

(progn
  (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
  (insert-image (create-image (concat "P4\n8 22\n" (make-string 22 127))
                              'pbm t))
  (insert ?g)
  (redisplay)
  (delete-char -1))




In GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (i686-w64-mingw32)
 of 2016-09-18 built on LAPHROAIG
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.0.6002
Configured using:
 'configure --host=i686-w64-mingw32 --without-dbus
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TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS

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  value of $LANG: JPN
  locale-coding-system: cp932

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> From: ynyaaa@HIDDEN
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 00:39:15 +0900
> 
> Evaluating the form below, the lower part of 'g' shape
> remains to be displayed.
> 
> (progn
>   (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
>   (insert-image (create-image (concat "P4\n8 22\n" (make-string 22 127))
>                               'pbm t))
>   (insert ?g)
>   (redisplay)
>   (delete-char -1))

Not reproducible here.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Evaluating the form below, the lower part of 'g' shape
>> remains to be displayed.
>> 
>> (progn
>>   (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
>>   (insert-image (create-image (concat "P4\n8 22\n" (make-string 22 127))
>>                               'pbm t))
>>   (insert ?g)
>>   (redisplay)
>>   (delete-char -1))
>
> Not reproducible here.

Reducing the height of the image or enlarging the font may show garbages.
Otherwise I have no idea.

With emacs -Q, the font used is
"-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-20-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1".
In this case, garbages are shown with images of height from 11 to 22.

Setting the font to
"-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-16-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1".
In this case, garbages are shown with images of height from 9 to 18.

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> From: ynyaaa@HIDDEN
> Cc: 25863 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:48:40 +0900
> 
> >> (progn
> >>   (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
> >>   (insert-image (create-image (concat "P4\n8 22\n" (make-string 22 127))
> >>                               'pbm t))
> >>   (insert ?g)
> >>   (redisplay)
> >>   (delete-char -1))
> >
> > Not reproducible here.
> 
> Reducing the height of the image or enlarging the font may show garbages.
> Otherwise I have no idea.
> 
> With emacs -Q, the font used is
> "-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-20-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1".
> In this case, garbages are shown with images of height from 11 to 22.
> 
> Setting the font to
> "-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-16-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1".
> In this case, garbages are shown with images of height from 9 to 18.

I'm not sure I understand how to change the test case to account for
the above.  Evaluating "(face-font 'default)" in "emacs -Q" produces
this:

  "-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1"

How to change the test case to reproduce the problem with this font,
please?

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> I'm not sure I understand how to change the test case to account for
> the above.  Evaluating "(face-font 'default)" in "emacs -Q" produces
> this:
>
>   "-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1"
>
> How to change the test case to reproduce the problem with this font,
> please?

Starting emacs -Q and (set-frame-font
"-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1"),
the form below displayed garbage.
The value for 'h' may be modified between 9 and 16.

(let ((h 16))
  (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
  (insert-image (create-image (concat (format "P4\n8 %d\n" h)
                                      (make-string h 127))
                              'pbm t))
  (insert ?g)
  (redisplay)
  (delete-char -1))

The attached image is the screen shot of the garbage display.
The left rectangle is the pbm image and the right rectangle
is text cursor, which looks shorter than the line height
where the line height equals to the image height.


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> From: ynyaaa@HIDDEN
> Cc: 25863 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 19:11:41 +0900
> 
> >   "-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1"
> >
> > How to change the test case to reproduce the problem with this font,
> > please?
> 
> Starting emacs -Q and (set-frame-font
> "-outline-Courier New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1"),
> the form below displayed garbage.
> The value for 'h' may be modified between 9 and 16.
> 
> (let ((h 16))
>   (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
>   (insert-image (create-image (concat (format "P4\n8 %d\n" h)
>                                       (make-string h 127))
>                               'pbm t))
>   (insert ?g)
>   (redisplay)
>   (delete-char -1))

Thanks, I see it now.

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severity 25863 minor
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> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:19:19 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 25863 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > (let ((h 16))
> >   (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
> >   (insert-image (create-image (concat (format "P4\n8 %d\n" h)
> >                                       (make-string h 127))
> >                               'pbm t))
> >   (insert ?g)
> >   (redisplay)
> >   (delete-char -1))
> 
> Thanks, I see it now.

Looks like a basic deficiency in the design of the Emacs redisplay,
and in particular the way screen lines are redrawn when they have
variable-height glyphs.

Fortunately, this is a fairly rare situation.  In the recipe above,
it's enough to make a very small change to make the problem go away:

(let ((h 16))
  (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
  (insert "x")     ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
  (insert-image (create-image (concat (format "P4\n8 %d\n" h)
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  (insert ?g)
  (redisplay)
  (delete-char -1))

Or maybe I'm missing something; ideas are welcome.

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severity 25863 minor
thanks

> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:19:19 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 25863 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > (let ((h 16))
> >   (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
> >   (insert-image (create-image (concat (format "P4\n8 %d\n" h)
> >                                       (make-string h 127))
> >                               'pbm t))
> >   (insert ?g)
> >   (redisplay)
> >   (delete-char -1))
> 
> Thanks, I see it now.

Looks like a basic deficiency in the design of the Emacs redisplay,
and in particular the way screen lines are redrawn when they have
variable-height glyphs.

Fortunately, this is a fairly rare situation.  In the recipe above,
it's enough to make a very small change to make the problem go away:

(let ((h 16))
  (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "temp"))
  (insert "x")     ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
  (insert-image (create-image (concat (format "P4\n8 %d\n" h)
                                      (make-string h 127))
                              'pbm t))
  (insert ?g)
  (redisplay)
  (delete-char -1))

Or maybe I'm missing something; ideas are welcome.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> Fortunately, this is a fairly rare situation.

I think it is not so rare.

Long ago, I noticed that a small dot may be displayed near an image
when viewing it by find-file.
For a long time I was not aware that it is a small part of a glyph
which is displayed before buffer switching.

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> From: ynyaaa@HIDDEN
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> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> > Fortunately, this is a fairly rare situation.
> 
> I think it is not so rare.
> 
> Long ago, I noticed that a small dot may be displayed near an image
> when viewing it by find-file.
> For a long time I was not aware that it is a small part of a glyph
> which is displayed before buffer switching.

It could be not so rare in your use patterns, but I was talking about
the average Emacs user out there.  The fact is we didn't (AFAIR) see
bug reports about such problems, and even reproducing this on my
machine needed some effort.  Which is not surprising, given the
particular relation between the default font size and the metrics and
position of the image needed to have the bug show itself.

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I can confirm that this bug is still present in Emacs 28.

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