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25.2; Reply inRMAIL sometimes fails

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From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.2; Reply inRMAIL sometimes fails
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 15:02:00 +0000

I was replying to the message
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From: Steven Yi <stevenyi <at> gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 22:25:42 -0500
Message-ID: <CANtcCs55K+vtGxdLJA9t+nBv2k7GNhFn2NYAqK_uAq-aW2UqLg <at> mail.gmail.com>
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Well, I'm wary of any C++ and Csound, but I'm also not sure what the
.....
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Using r command I see the generated message
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 13:06:10 +0000
Message-Id: <7776-Mon27Feb2017130610+0000-jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
X-Mailer: emacs 25.2.7 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I)
BCC: jpff <at> codemist.co.uk
From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
To: Steven Yi <stevenyi <at> gmail.com>
CC: Victor.Lazzarini <at> nuim.ie
        <CANtcCs55K+vtGxdLJA9t+nBv2k7GNhFn2NYAqK_uAq-aW2UqLg <at> mail.gmail.com>
        (message from Steven Yi on Sun, 26 Feb 2017 22:25:42 -0500)
Subject: Re: widgets.cpp
References: <AED3235E-3B4E-4E49-BBC9-28DBEEECDEBB <at> nuim.ie>
<CANtcCs55K+vtGxdLJA9t+nBv2k7GNhFn2NYAqK_uAq-aW2UqLg <at> mail.gmail.com>

I ever liked the c++ files.  Too easy to hide what is actually
.......
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which is ill formed.  This has been haappening for some yeas but I
finally had time to record it(!). Seems related to the




In GNU Emacs 25.2.7 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.31)
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==John ffitch

Message #8 received at 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
Cc: 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#25891: 25.2; Reply inRMAIL sometimes fails
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 02:22:30 -0500

I can't reproduce this (even using feedmail as you seem to be).
Please try and find a minimal complete example starting from emacs -Q
that shows the problem.

Message #11 received at 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: charles <at> aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli)
To: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
Cc: 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#25891: 25.2; Reply inRMAIL sometimes fails
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:27:34 +0200

> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 15:02:00 +0000
> From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
> 
> 
> I was replying to the message
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> [...]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> which is ill formed.  This has been haappening for some yeas but I
> finally had time to record it(!). Seems related to the

Can you clarify what is ill-formed?  Also, could you send a mbox
containing the message that causes the issue, along with a way to
reproduce the issue without any customizations (i.e. from emacs -q)?

Message #14 received at 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
To: "Charles A. Roelli" <charles <at> aurox.ch>
Cc: 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#25891: 25.2; Reply inRMAIL sometimes fails
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:58:39 +0100 (BST)

I will look out a example -- may take a while


On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Charles A. Roelli wrote:

>> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 15:02:00 +0000
>> From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
>>
>>
>> I was replying to the message
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> [...]
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> which is ill formed.  This has been haappening for some yeas but I
>> finally had time to record it(!). Seems related to the
>
> Can you clarify what is ill-formed?  Also, could you send a mbox
> containing the message that causes the issue, along with a way to
> reproduce the issue without any customizations (i.e. from emacs -q)?
>

Message #17 received at 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
To: charles <at> aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli)
Cc: 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#25891: 25.2; Reply inRMAIL sometimes fails
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:34:26 +0100

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Attached is a mailfile (set rail-mode) with one message.  Typing "r" to
reply I see
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From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
To: Steven Yi <stevenyi <at> gmail.com>
CC: Victor.Lazzarini <at> mu.ie
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	(message from Steven Yi on Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:39:00 -0400)
Subject: Re: Next release
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==John ffitch
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(that is my automatically inserted signature)

Adding text `"test" to this and sending the message I get (my BCC) is
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:13:14 +0100
From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
To: Steven Yi <stevenyi <at> gmail.com>
Cc: "Victor.Lazzarini <at> mu.ie"
    <CANtcCs7-TwLw9PiOvQBYyertQbWurCsJ-i9B9JjGQTZxoaNesg <at> mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Next release

test
==John ffitch
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which is clearly ill formed -- and indeed I also get the message
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:13:14 +0100
From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
To: Steven Yi <stevenyi <at> gmail.com>
Cc: "Victor.Lazzarini <at> mu.ie"
    <CANtcCs7-TwLw9PiOvQBYyertQbWurCsJ-i9B9JjGQTZxoaNesg <at> mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Next release

test
==John ffitch
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Experiments suggest that if I move the I-reply-to lines to the end of
the headers it works

Hope that is clear?

==John ffitch

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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:39:00 -0400
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Subject: Re: Next release
To: Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini <at> mu.ie>
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Wow that is quite an upgrade adventure!

I think we still have the issue with reverting the changes for
if-then?  (Or has that been done?)  I've been a bit heads down
preparing for the conference and getting final changes done for a Blue
release.  I still see changes coming in from Michael for the Appveyor
build so I suppose we need to coordinate with him on that.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Victor Lazzarini
<Victor.Lazzarini <at> mu.ie> wrote:
> I=E2=80=99d say a couple of things:
>
> 1) Menno=E2=80=99s issue
> 2) Eduardo=E2=80=99s PR
>
> and we should be OK.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
>> On 19 Sep 2017, at 13:14, John ff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Just checking back in.  I have been having local problems.  Printer stop=
ped working so lost a day failing to get the replacement to work.  Eventual=
ly realised that I needed newer software which requires OS upgrade.  Spent =
most of Sunday upgrading my server/firewall from Debian wheezy to Jessie, o=
n the way to stretch.  Disaster struck when the Jessie failed to reboot.  A=
s the computer is headless I had to dismantle it all, loose the internet, a=
nd find USB keyboard and dvi cable for screen.  Eventually discovered that =
the kernel installed with Jessie did not load, but the previous kernel did.=
  An hour or so thinking and I managed to get autobooting to work so re-ins=
talled with internet and hidden location.... , and eventually email resumed=
.
>>
>> What are the stoppers to release?  I did look at Meno's ladspa problem b=
ut that is outside my current knowledge.
>>
>> z=3D=3DJohn
>> =E2=81=A3Sent from TypeApp
>

Message #20 received at 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: charles <at> aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli)
To: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
Cc: 25891 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#25891: 25.2; Reply inRMAIL sometimes fails
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 21:16:35 +0200

> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:34:26 +0100
> From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
> 
> [1:text/plain Hide]
> 
> 
> Attached is a mailfile (set rail-mode) with one message.  Typing "r" to
> reply I see
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
> To: Steven Yi <stevenyi <at> gmail.com>
> CC: Victor.Lazzarini <at> mu.ie
> In-reply-to:
> 	<CANtcCs7-TwLw9PiOvQBYyertQbWurCsJ-i9B9JjGQTZxoaNesg <at> mail.gmail.com>
> 	(message from Steven Yi on Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:39:00 -0400)
> Subject: Re: Next release
> BCC: jpff <at> codemist.co.uk
> References: <9c571770-2e28-4b78-95c6-baad81925043 <at> codemist.co.uk> <63268264-9DE9-4EDE-AE92-BC3236D5A1FF <at> mu.ie> <CANtcCs7-TwLw9PiOvQBYyertQbWurCsJ-i9B9JjGQTZxoaNesg <at> mail.gmail.com>
> --text follows this line--
> 
> ==John ffitch
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> (that is my automatically inserted signature)
> 
> Adding text `"test" to this and sending the message I get (my BCC) is
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:13:14 +0100
> From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
> To: Steven Yi <stevenyi <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: "Victor.Lazzarini <at> mu.ie"
>     <CANtcCs7-TwLw9PiOvQBYyertQbWurCsJ-i9B9JjGQTZxoaNesg <at> mail.gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Next release
> 
> test
> ==John ffitch
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> which is clearly ill formed -- and indeed I also get the message
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:13:51 +0100
> From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon <at> codemist.co.uk>
> To: jpff <at> codemist.co.uk
> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
> Parts/Attachments:
>    1   Shown      8 lines  Text
>    2   Shown    161 bytes  Message, "Delivery Status"
>    3   Shown    1.2 KB     Message, "Re: Next release"
>    3.1 Shown      3 lines  Text
> ----------------------------------------
> 
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
> 
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> 
>   CANtcCs7-TwLw9PiOvQBYyertQbWurCsJ-i9B9JjGQTZxoaNesg <at> mail.gmail.com
>     Unknown user
> 
> 
>     [ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ]
> 
> Reporting-MTA: dns; codemist.co.uk
> 
> Action: failed
> Final-Recipient:
> rfc822;CANtcCs7-TwLw9PiOvQBYyertQbWurCsJ-i9B9JjGQTZxoaNesg <at> mail.gmail.com
> Status: 5.0.0
> 
> 
> 
>     [ Part 3: "Included Message" ]
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:13:14 +0100
> From: jpff <jpff <at> codemist.co.uk>
> To: Steven Yi <stevenyi <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: "Victor.Lazzarini <at> mu.ie"
>     <CANtcCs7-TwLw9PiOvQBYyertQbWurCsJ-i9B9JjGQTZxoaNesg <at> mail.gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Next release
> 
> test
> ==John ffitch
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Experiments suggest that if I move the I-reply-to lines to the end of
> the headers it works
> 
> Hope that is clear?

Yes, thank you.  So it looks like the "In-reply-to:" line is being
removed at some point while sending the message.  Can you also
reproduce this from emacs -q?  I tried to, without success.

Additionally, after you send the message with the broken
CC/"In-reply-to:" headers, can you switch to the buffer "*sent mail to
<recipient>* (where <recipient> is the recipient of the message) and
show the contents?

Thanks in advance.

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