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25.2; smtpmail.el tries useless unauthenticated connection

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.2; smtpmail.el tries useless unauthenticated connection
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 12:21:22 +0200

Some mail servers implement a policy that limits the number of
concurrent or quasi-concurrent connections per host. The method how
smtpmail.el connects to a server doesn't help to avoid such limits.

In detail: smtpmail.el will always try an unauthenticated connection
first by calling smtpmail-via-smtp without the ask-for-password
argument. If the mail server allows only authenticated connections,
it will reject the connection either with status 530 "auth required"
or with status 554 "relaying denied". smtpmail-via-smtp catches these
errors and subsequently calls itself, but now with ask-for-password
set to t.

However, if the server has implemented a policy as mentioned above,
that retry may be enough to trip the limit and the second connection
will be refused by the server.

So could this be made configurable please, such that smtpmail will
immediately try with an authenticated connection? AFAICS, this should
be easily possible in either smtpmail-via-smtp or in its callers, by
conditionally setting ask-for-password depending on some configuration
variable.

Currently I am working around the problem with an advice:
(defadvice smtpmail-via-smtp
  (around always-ask-for-password
	  (recipient smtpmail-text-buffer &optional ask-for-password)
	  activate)
  (let ((ask-for-password t))
    ad-do-it))


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Message #8 received at 26359 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Ulrich Mueller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
Cc: 26359 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26359: 25.2; smtpmail.el tries useless unauthenticated
 connection
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:17:25 +0200

Ulrich Mueller <ulm <at> gentoo.org> writes:

> So could this be made configurable please, such that smtpmail will
> immediately try with an authenticated connection? AFAICS, this should
> be easily possible in either smtpmail-via-smtp or in its callers, by
> conditionally setting ask-for-password depending on some configuration
> variable.

Makes sense.  I've now added smtpmail-servers-requiring-authorization to
the trunk.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #15 received at 26359 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: ulm <at> gentoo.org, 26359 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26359: 25.2;
 smtpmail.el tries useless unauthenticated connection
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:12:43 +0300

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:17:25 +0200
> Cc: 26359 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I've now added smtpmail-servers-requiring-authorization to the
> trunk.

Please add a :version tag to it.

Thanks.

Message #18 received at 26359 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: ulm <at> gentoo.org, 26359 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26359: 25.2; smtpmail.el tries useless unauthenticated
 connection
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:17:37 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> I've now added smtpmail-servers-requiring-authorization to the
>> trunk.
>
> Please add a :version tag to it.

Sorry; I keep forgetting to do that...  Fixed now.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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