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Subject: bug#26525: `sit-for' in Flyspell slows typing down, hogs 90% of CPU
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Hi bug-gnu-emacs,

I have attached a profile in which Flyspell's flyspell-check-word-p consumes 89% of CPU time while typing text in a buffer.  This seems to be due to a call to sit-for in flyspell-check-word-p.  What is this sit-for there for?

- flyspell-post-command-hook                                     6077  89%
 - flyspell-check-word-p                                         6073  89%
  - sit-for                                                      6067  89%
   - read-event                                                  3826  56%
    + redisplay_internal (C function)                             128   1%
    + timer-event-handler                                          91   1%
    + fstar-subp-filter                                             3   0%
   - redisplay                                                   2205  32%
    + redisplay_internal (C function)                             100   1%
  + flyspell-get-not-casechars                                      2   0%
 + flyspell-check-pre-word-p                                        4   0%
+ command-execute                                                 220   3%
+ ...                                                             131   1%
+ timer-event-handler                                             116   1%
+ redisplay_internal (C function)                                 114   1%
+ company-post-command                                            102   1%
+ flycheck-perform-deferred-syntax-check                            5   0%
+ eldoc-pre-command-refresh-echo-area                               3   0%
  sml/generate-position-help                                        1   0%

I haven't spent much time investigating this issue yet, and my current repro isn't exactly reliable, but I was hoping that someone might be able to provide insight into Flyspell's behaviour before I dive to deep :) I did verify that disabling Flyspell fixed the issue.

Thanks!
Clément.

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The relevant piece of code seems to be this:

      (cond
       ((get this-command 'flyspell-deplacement)
	(not (eq flyspell-previous-command this-command)))
       ((get this-command 'flyspell-delayed)
	;; The current command is not delayed, that
	;; is that we must check the word now.
	(and (not unread-command-events)
	     (sit-for flyspell-delay)))
       (t t)))

But the condition and the comment seem at odds, and it doesn't say much about why it calls `sit-for`.

Clément.

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> From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:33:56 -0400
> 
> The relevant piece of code seems to be this:
> 
>       (cond
>        ((get this-command 'flyspell-deplacement)
> 	(not (eq flyspell-previous-command this-command)))
>        ((get this-command 'flyspell-delayed)
> 	;; The current command is not delayed, that
> 	;; is that we must check the word now.
> 	(and (not unread-command-events)
> 	     (sit-for flyspell-delay)))
>        (t t)))
> 
> But the condition and the comment seem at odds, and it doesn't say much about why it calls `sit-for`.

I'm not quite sure what needs to be explained.  I think the doc string
of flyspell-delay and flyspell-default-delayed-commands tell the whole
story; if something is unclear there, please say what is unclear.

If you want to see this feature in action, turn on Flyspell, then type
something like "ssss", and then wait _without_ typing any non-word
character.  You will see that the mis-spelled word is marked only
after 3 sec, the default value of flyspell-delay.  Then contrast that
with the same word with a space typed after it.

IOW, this is a feature designed to avoid annoying users who type
slowly or make short breaks after typing only part of a word.

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On 2017-04-17 03:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> But the condition and the comment seem at odds, and it doesn't say much about why it calls `sit-for`.
> 
> I'm not quite sure what needs to be explained.  I think the doc string
> of flyspell-delay and flyspell-default-delayed-commands tell the whole
> story; if something is unclear there, please say what is unclear.

The code reads (cond ((get this-command 'flyspell-delayed) …)), but the comment says "The current command is not delayed".  Does a non-nil flycheck-delayed really mean that the command is *not* delayed?

> If you want to see this feature in action, turn on Flyspell, then type
> something like "ssss", and then wait _without_ typing any non-word
> character.  You will see that the mis-spelled word is marked only
> after 3 sec, the default value of flyspell-delay.  Then contrast that
> with the same word with a space typed after it.

Thanks! I don't expect that this feature is intended to slow down typing, though, right?  In the example I posted it makes typing painfully slow.

Clément.

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> Cc: 26525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel@HIDDEN>
> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:29:20 -0400
> 
> On 2017-04-17 03:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> But the condition and the comment seem at odds, and it doesn't say much about why it calls `sit-for`.
> > 
> > I'm not quite sure what needs to be explained.  I think the doc string
> > of flyspell-delay and flyspell-default-delayed-commands tell the whole
> > story; if something is unclear there, please say what is unclear.
> 
> The code reads (cond ((get this-command 'flyspell-delayed) …)), but the comment says "The current command is not delayed".  Does a non-nil flycheck-delayed really mean that the command is *not* delayed?

I think the comment should be moved 2 lines below its current place,
that's all.

> > If you want to see this feature in action, turn on Flyspell, then type
> > something like "ssss", and then wait _without_ typing any non-word
> > character.  You will see that the mis-spelled word is marked only
> > after 3 sec, the default value of flyspell-delay.  Then contrast that
> > with the same word with a space typed after it.
> 
> Thanks! I don't expect that this feature is intended to slow down typing, though, right?  In the example I posted it makes typing painfully slow.

I didn't see any example in your OP, only a profile.  What did I miss?

And no, this is not supposed to slow down typing in any significant
way, as long as you type, because sit-for is supposed to return as
soon as input is available.  Your complaint was about CPU usage, not
about time delays, AFAIU.

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On 2017-04-17 10:25, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Thanks! I don't expect that this feature is intended to slow down typing, though, right?  In the example I posted it makes typing painfully slow.
> I didn't see any example in your OP, only a profile.  What did I miss?
> 
> And no, this is not supposed to slow down typing in any significant
> way, as long as you type, because sit-for is supposed to return as
> soon as input is available.  Your complaint was about CPU usage, not
> about time delays, AFAIU.

Indeed, there was only a profile; I don't have a good repro yet.  In that case, flyspell was slowing things down a lot, and the complaint was indeed about delays.
Sorry for being unclear.

Clément.

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> I have attached a profile in which Flyspell's flyspell-check-word-p
> consumes 89% of CPU time while typing text in a buffer. [=E2=80=A6]

This happened to me in the past then stopped for months. Now it happens
again and is really annoying. Emacs regularly freezes for around 5
seconds when I manipulate text.

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Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel@HIDDEN> writes:

> On 2017-04-17 10:25, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> Thanks! I don't expect that this feature is intended to slow down typin=
g, though, right?  In the example I posted it makes typing painfully slow.
>> I didn't see any example in your OP, only a profile.  What did I miss?
>>
>> And no, this is not supposed to slow down typing in any significant
>> way, as long as you type, because sit-for is supposed to return as
>> soon as input is available.  Your complaint was about CPU usage, not
>> about time delays, AFAIU.
>
> Indeed, there was only a profile; I don't have a good repro yet.  In that=
 case, flyspell was slowing things down a lot, and the complaint was indeed=
 about delays.
> Sorry for being unclear.

That was 3 years ago.  Are you still seeing this on a recent version of
Emacs, such as the recently released 27.1?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

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Damien Cassou <damien@HIDDEN> writes:

>> I have attached a profile in which Flyspell's flyspell-check-word-p
>> consumes 89% of CPU time while typing text in a buffer. [=E2=80=A6]
>
> This happened to me in the past then stopped for months. Now it happens
> again and is really annoying. Emacs regularly freezes for around 5
> seconds when I manipulate text.

That was 3 years ago.  Are you still seeing this on a recent version of
Emacs, such as the recently released 27.1?

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Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes:
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> Emacs, such as the recently released 27.1?

This hasn't happened for some time.

-- 
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On 8/28/20 8:35 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
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>> That was 3 years ago.  Are you still seeing this on a recent version of
>> Emacs, such as the recently released 27.1?
> 
> This hasn't happened for some time.
> 

There was a report of a similar issue on reddit recently, but it hasn't happened to me of late.

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tags 26525 + unreproducible
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Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel@HIDDEN> writes:

> On 8/28/20 8:35 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
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>>> That was 3 years ago.  Are you still seeing this on a recent version of
>>> Emacs, such as the recently released 27.1?
>>
>> This hasn't happened for some time.
>>
>
> There was a report of a similar issue on reddit recently, but it hasn't h=
appened to me of late.

You wouldn't happen to have a link to the relevant thread?  I tried
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I'm marking this bug as unreproducible for now.  Please report back if
you see this again or can provide any more information.

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Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel@HIDDEN> writes:

> On 8/28/20 8:35 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
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>>
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>>
>
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On 8/29/20 12:27 PM, Stefan Kangas wrote:
> You wouldn't happen to have a link to the relevant thread?  I tried
> searching the web but couldn't find anything.

https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/i96lbo/flyspell_consuming_most_of_my_resources_why_oo/ , sorry for not including it the first time.

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> I'm marking this bug as unreproducible for now.  Please report back
> if you see this again or can provide any more information.

I just bumped into this bug on 27.1 with the same symptoms - typing lag
after activating flyspell-mode. 

I took a couple of profiles - the first when lag was apparent and
another after clearing the lag by toggling flyspell-mode.

Both profiles show a similar result, so the "high cpu" in sit-for might
be a red-herring.

Profile 1 - with lag
  - flyspell-post-command-hook                     1146  92%
   - flyspell-check-word-p                         1120  90%
    - sit-for                                      1117  90%
     - redisplay                                    551  44%
      + redisplay_internal (C function)               1   0%
       read-event                                   390  31%
    - flyspell-get-not-casechars                      1   0%
       ispell-get-decoded-string                      1   0%
   + flyspell-word                                    8   0%
   + flyspell-check-pre-word-p                        3   0%
  + command-execute                                  65   5%
  + ...                                              22   1%
  + undo-auto--add-boundary                           1   0%

Profile 2 - without lag
  - flyspell-post-command-hook                     3507  94%
   - flyspell-check-word-p                         3432  92%
    - sit-for                                      3414  92%
     - redisplay                                   1660  44%
      + redisplay_internal (C function)               3   0%
     + read-event                                  1317  35%
    + ispell-get-otherchars                           6   0%
    + flyspell-get-not-casechars                      5   0%
   + flyspell-word                                   17   0%
   + flyspell-check-pre-word-p                       13   0%
  + command-execute                                  93   2%
  + ...                                              87   2%
  + timer-event-handler                               3   0%
    undo-auto--add-boundary                           2   0%
    tooltip-hide                                      1   0%

Nick

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Nick H <nick@HIDDEN> writes:

> I just bumped into this bug on 27.1 with the same symptoms - typing lag
> after activating flyspell-mode.

What is your ispell/flyspell configuration?

Do you have any ideas about how to reproduce it, or could you say
something about the circumstances under which you saw this?

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On Thu, 2020-09-03 at 03:19 -0700, Stefan Kangas wrote:
> Nick H <nick@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > I just bumped into this bug on 27.1 with the same symptoms - typing
> > lag after activating flyspell-mode.
> 
> What is your ispell/flyspell configuration?

Nothing unusual:

grep -C2 -E \(ispell\|flyspell\) ~/.config/emacs/init.el

  ; spelling
  (setq ispell-choices-win-default-height 2)
  (setq ispell-dictionary "en_NZ")
  (setq ispell-personal-dictionary (concat nh-etc "hunspell-dict"))
  (setq ispell-program-name "hunspell")
  (setq ispell-dictionary-alist
        '(("en_NZ" "[[:alpha:]]" "[^[:alpha:]]" "[']" t nil t utf-8)))
  (with-eval-after-load 'flyspell
    (progn
      (define-key 
         flyspell-mouse-map [down-mouse-3] #'flyspell-correct-word)
      (define-key 
         flyspell-mouse-map [mouse-3] nil)))

> Do you have any ideas about how to reproduce it, or could you say
> something about the circumstances under which you saw this?

The lead-up was pretty mundane - I visited an elisp file, set the 
region to a block of text, M-x write-region, C-x C-f the resulting
file, M-x vi-l-m, a few edits, M-x flys-buf, M-x flys-mod --> lag

I tried to reproduce the problem, but no success. Sorry.

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